Gibbs vs. Spurrier -- stats about even?

[Beemnseven]

By now, we’re all well aware of the fact that Gibbs thus far has only been able to match Steve Spurrier’s record of 11-16 at this point in his second stint as head coach. But according to my local paper this morning, the Virginian-Pilot, here are some other troubling stats you may not be aware of…

In games decided by seven points or less, Spurrier’s team was 7-10. Under Gibbs, they’re 8-12.

In two seasons, Spurrier’s Redskins were penalized 240 times. Gibbs is on pace for 224.

With Gibbs at the helm, the Skins average 116 yards per game rushing. Under Spurrier – it’s 111.

Spurrier’s offensive line allowed 81 sacks over two seasons. With Gibbs and Bugel as coaches – with a more mobile quarterback -- they’re projected to allow 79.

I don’t know how anyone can’t be disappointed at this. Would we all have given Steve Spurrier another year to work things out since many appear to give Gibbs a free pass at this point?

[Winskins]

I think Spurrier certainly had the potential to be a good NFL coach, but Joe Gibbs has proven he could do it. Further, the players seem to believe that Joe Gibbs can do it.

Those are interesting stats though. I wonder what it is that this team is lacking...

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Winskins

I think Spurrier certainly had the potential to be a good NFL coach, but Joe Gibbs has proven he could do it. Further, the players seem to believe that Joe Gibbs can do it.

Those are interesting stats though. I wonder what it is that this team is lacking...

fresh innovative blood

[BigSKINBauer]

all of those stats gibbs is better in, even slightly but all the stats together this is a stronger team. Also compare gibbs' second year to steves because last year our offense sucked and STILL we have more yards per game on the ground and less sacks, this year we are a much better team than last year and all of those stats are offensive stats and last years offense was pretty damn bad and might pull down some of those stats

[dmek25]

i think the people in washington were willing to give spurrier one more year but there is NO comparison between coaches,none

[VTSkins897]

i also believe spurrier could have been a better NFL coach given another year. i think in the long run however, even in his second stint JG is far and away a better coach overall.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

By now, we’re all well aware of the fact that Gibbs thus far has only been able to match Steve Spurrier’s record of 11-16 at this point in his second stint as head coach. But according to my local paper this morning, the Virginian-Pilot, here are some other troubling stats you may not be aware of…

In games decided by seven points or less, Spurrier’s team was 7-10. Under Gibbs, they’re 8-12.

In two seasons, Spurrier’s Redskins were penalized 240 times. Gibbs is on pace for 224.

With Gibbs at the helm, the Skins average 116 yards per game rushing. Under Spurrier – it’s 111.

Spurrier’s offensive line allowed 81 sacks over two seasons. With Gibbs and Bugel as coaches – with a more mobile quarterback -- they’re projected to allow 79.

I don’t know how anyone can’t be disappointed at this. Would we all have given Steve Spurrier another year to work things out since many appear to give Gibbs a free pass at this point?

It may be more interesting to see a compare of year #2 for each

[MTK]

I was all for giving Spurrier another year, I don't think any coach can be fairly judged in just 2 seasons.

What disturbed me about Spurrier was the lackadasical approach he had to coaching. From his initial comments about other NFL coaches working too hard, to not knowing the names of his own players, to Jansen stating they didn't even have gameplans week to week.

Spurrier's teams didn't show 1/4 of the heart and fight that Gibbs' teams have, and that all starts with the mentality that the head coach instills in the team.

[FirstandTen]

I'll never forget what Spurrier said on his last Coach's Radio Show on 980am.. The last question he was asked was :

"Coach is there anything optimistic you can say to the fans for next year?"

OBC "Welp..............not much"

[skinsguy]

Just more hatin' on ol' Joe Gibbs. If it was up to the fans, we'd have a different coach and quarterback each week.

[onsidekick]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What disturbed me about Spurrier was the lackadasical approach he had to coaching. From his initial comments about other NFL coaches working too hard, to not knowing the names of his own players, to Jansen stating they didn't even have gameplans week to week.

Spurrier's teams didn't show 1/4 of the heart and fight that Gibbs' teams have, and that all starts with the mentality that the head coach instills in the team.

That's the bottom line. Gibbs is getting max effort from every one of these guys. Gibbs has actually spent the better part of his first 2 years UN-doing the culture that Spurrier created while he was here, and he's done a great job.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by onsidekick

That's the bottom line. Gibbs is getting max effort from every one of these guys. Gibbs has actually spent the better part of his first 2 years UN-doing the culture that Spurrier created while he was here, and he's done a great job.

Well said

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Just more hatin' on ol' Joe Gibbs. If it was up to the fans, we'd have a different coach and quarterback each week.

Thats a new idea we could have coach and QB by committee. Every Monday all the players and front office could vote for QB, head coach, offensive and deffensive coach and they would run pratice and the game on Sunday. If we win they keep their jobs for another week and if we loose we have another vote on Monday. They could even have 25% of the vote come from fans that would log on to the Skins site and cast their votes.

[celts32]

You can find stats to support any argument. However, all you need to do is watch the games (which I am pretty sure we all do here) to see which team is more competitive and which is headed in the right direction. Spurriers teams were an absolute mess. The last few weeks have been rough, but with the possible exception of the Giants game Gibbs has had this team putting forth maximum effort with every player on board every single week. They all believe in Gibbs and are united as a team. I just never felt that way under Spurrier. The wins are going to follow eventually...

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by celts32

You can find stats to support any argument. However, all you need to do is watch the games (which I am pretty sure we all do here) to see which team is more competitive and which is headed in the right direction. Spurriers teams were an absolute mess.

Agreed.