(Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-28-2005, 12:49 AM

Is it just me, or does it seem that people (no one in particular) are taking this loss a little too hard? So far, I have heard people say:

1. "Brunell sucks"
2. "Portis sucks"
3. "The O-line sucks"
4. "The coaching staff sucks"
5. "The defense sucks"
6. "The team as a whole sucks"

It's one thing to say that Brunell throws the ball away too often, too many balls were dropped, Portis can't grind it out, the defense gives up too many big plays, the coaching staff is too predictable, the team is frustrating, or the team let the Chargers beat them. It becomes a totally different matter when someone starts saying how everything sucks and lays out f-bombs every two sentences.

The team is average, not awful, not great, but average. That doesn't mean that the entire team needs to be leveled and rebuilt. Do you totally retool a machine when a few parts are broken? No, although that is what the Dan Snyders of the world like to do.

I understand the emotional component of each loss. But, we lost in overtime to one of the best and most complete teams in the league. Yet, people are acting like we are 0-11 and just got blown out by the Texans. What gives?

saskin · 11-28-2005, 12:52 AM

Well, people are getting their hearts ripped out week after week, year after year. And there's no relief in sight. Now, saying such and such sucks may not be called for but it can almost be expected.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-28-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins88

Well, people are getting their hearts ripped out week after week, year after year. And there's no relief in sight. Now, saying such and such sucks may not be called for but it can almost be expected.

I couldn't talk to my girlfriend for 2 hours after the game. She kept asking me questions and I just waved my hand at her and she understood not to talk to me. I wanted to pound my television screen into tiny little fragments of glass and plastic. So yes, I can understand how people feel that their hearts have been ripped out.

As for the relief, it's in sight and it is the Rams and Cardinals.

saskin · 11-28-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I couldn't talk to my girlfriend for 2 hours after the game. She kept asking me questions and I just waved my hand at her and she understood not to talk to me. I wanted to pound my television screen into tiny little fragments of glass and plastic. So yes, I can understand how people feel that their hearts have been ripped out.

As for the relief, it's in sight and it is the Rams and Cardinals.

1-1......if we're 2-0 I'll be the happiest person ever.....but I don't see us actually pulling off a road win to an average team. I wouldn't even be surprised if we put Walt Harris on Torry Holt.......

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-28-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins88

1-1......if we're 2-0 I'll be the happiest person ever.....but I don't see us actually pulling off a road win to an average team. I wouldn't even be surprised if we put Walt Harris on Torry Holt.......

I think once we are 7-6 a lot of people will forgive the team for today's loss.

saskin · 11-28-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I think once we are 7-6 a lot of people will forgive the team for today's loss.

I wouldn't mind it.......but it's a longshot.....

SmootSmack · 11-28-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I couldn't talk to my girlfriend for 2 hours after the game.

Listen, I have a confession to make. It's my fault we lost. I was on the phone with my fiance from the opening kickoff all the way until the play just before LT's first touchdown. If I had stayed on the phone with her just five more minutes we probably would have won.

Of course that would mean she and I have to talk for the entire game every game from now on.

mooby · 11-28-2005, 01:17 AM

don't worry Tafkas all will be forgiven. . . eventually. As for those things that you said you saw RF, i didn't say any of those. But i did say and i will say the coaching staff is too predictable, the defense gives up too many big plays, and the offense can't grind it out in the long run. Actually on second thought, i did lay the f-bomb on a few players, namely Royal, Harris, and another guy. I do think those guys are the weak links. I got caught up, because i was emotional after the way we've been losing these past three weeks. It's just really frustrating to know how good we can be, yet always seem to lose.

skinsfanthru&thru · 11-28-2005, 01:24 AM

For me personally I know it's just frustration cuz this team with all of it's close calls and seemingly lack of a killer instinct, the team could easily be 0-11 or 10-1 and seeing the team @ 5-6 is hard to stomach with how well the season seemed to start off. It's just dumbfounding how the team seems incapable of playing a complete game with the same desire and sense of urgency from quarter to quarter save the practical no show vs the giants. We r still only 2 games behind the divisional leaders with games left against both @ home, a visit to the shell-of-their-former-selves-eagles, and 2 upcoming games against seemingly beatable games so I firmly believe that the season is still alive and I will not give up hope. A lot of people, myself included, didn't think the skins would be able to keep todays game close and they did and I think that, silly as it sounds, makes it worse. We all care so much about the success of the Redskins and to see them come so close only to fumble it away or let a win slip from their grasps because they become afraid to lose just makes us all want to scream our lungs out. Some people are going to the extreme with their frustration but a lot of our frustrations have been building over the past dozen years or so and it's somewhat understandable that some r starting to crack. I know it sounds corny but don't give up faith in this team.

e16bball · 11-28-2005, 01:31 AM

Hey guys, I've been away for a while, but upon my return it seems like everyone is really down in the dumps, which is perfectly understandable.

But I've been having a look at some remaining schedules, and I think we still have a realistic shot.

We should definitely take these next two games against the Rams and Cards, and that leaves us 7-6 with the 'Boys coming in.

Win that, and we're 8-6 with the G-Men coming in.

Win that, and we're 9-6 going into Philly against a depleted Eagles team.

Win that, and we're 10-6, and headed to the playoffs.

I truly think that it can be done. Don't ask yourself "Do I think this team will win 5 straight," That is too macro, and it's depressing. If you are seeking positivity, ask yourself "Do I think this team will beat the Rams ?" and "Do I think this team will beat the Cardinals?" etc.

In all honesty, there is not a game in the upcoming 5 where I think we are unlikely to win. That's crucial. We are just as or more talented than these other teams, and if we can put it all together, we have a damn shot at this thing.

I know some of you will think I'm being way too optimistic, but show me a game where you really think we can't win...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-28-2005, 01:39 AM

I didn't mean to sound confused as to why people would be upset. I also didn't mean to sound angry about people who were upset. Sorry if I didn't communicate myself better.

Southpaw · 11-28-2005, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by e16bball

I know some of you will think I'm being way too optimistic, but show me a game where you really think we can't win...

Looking at the fact that this team has managed to drop six of their last eight games, I'd have to say that you are definitely being waaaay to optimistic. This is the same pattern that this team has followed every season,for the past decade. They'll be lucky to win two of the last five, and that's if they can squeak by the Rams.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-28-2005, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Looking at the fact that this team has managed to drop six of their last eight games, I'd have to say that you are definitely being waaaay to optimistic. This is the same pattern that this team has followed every season,for the past decade. They'll be lucky to win two of the last five, and that's if they can squeak by the Rams.

You really think the Cardinals, Rams, and Eagles are going to put up a stiff fight? I see them being fairly close, but I don't think we should have a lot of difficulty squeezing two wins out of those three games.

As for the G-men and Dallas, we're facing them at home. I think we have a shot of winning one of those games.

mooby · 11-28-2005, 01:44 AM

I will say, the Redskins are gonna win their next five and magically make the playoffs. Realistically, the Cowboys and Giants are too good to make the mistakes we've been making the past few weeks. We can easily give up this game against the Rams, because we have a penchant for giving up big plays on defense, and Torry Holt is well known for making big plays, as is Isaac Bruce. I still have hope than in the next week, we will be able to fix our past mistakes and be a complete team. But i figured after our loss to Tampa Bay a couple weeks ago we'd light the fire under the team and get them cracking. It didn't happen last week against the Raiders. After that week i figured we would finally get the mistakes figured out and be the complete team in time for this week. Lo and behold, we didn't fix the mistakes in time for the Chargers. I guess what i'm trying to say is I'm tired of waiting for us to fix our mistakes in time for next week. Maybe the optimism is gone from me, I don't know. I do know that this team is good enough to win every game on their remaining schedule, but i don't know that we can fix the mistakes in time.

Longtimefan · 11-28-2005, 01:53 AM

It would be great to see some of these players begin taking these losses as hard, and as much to heart as we the fans do. It's difficult not to express your frustration when you continue to loose close games the same way week in and week out espically when you have every opportunity to win. I don't know if it's as much overreacting as it is frustrating, and we all know that we as fans have had enough of loosing these close games every week. Until the loosing stops, fans are always feel the need to vent following this lack of inspired play at too many critical times in games.

11-28-2005, 12:49 AM	#1
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	(Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss Is it just me, or does it seem that people (no one in particular) are taking this loss a little too hard? So far, I have heard people say: 1. "Brunell sucks" 2. "Portis sucks" 3. "The O-line sucks" 4. "The coaching staff sucks" 5. "The defense sucks" 6. "The team as a whole sucks" It's one thing to say that Brunell throws the ball away too often, too many balls were dropped, Portis can't grind it out, the defense gives up too many big plays, the coaching staff is too predictable, the team is frustrating, or the team let the Chargers beat them. It becomes a totally different matter when someone starts saying how everything sucks and lays out f-bombs every two sentences. The team is average, not awful, not great, but average. That doesn't mean that the entire team needs to be leveled and rebuilt. Do you totally retool a machine when a few parts are broken? No, although that is what the Dan Snyders of the world like to do. I understand the emotional component of each loss. But, we lost in overtime to one of the best and most complete teams in the league. Yet, people are acting like we are 0-11 and just got blown out by the Texans. What gives? Last edited by Sheriff Gonna Getcha; 11-28-2005 at 01:04 AM.

11-28-2005, 12:52 AM	#2
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 36 Posts: 355	Re: Overreacting to a loss Well, people are getting their hearts ripped out week after week, year after year. And there's no relief in sight. Now, saying such and such sucks may not be called for but it can almost be expected.

11-28-2005, 01:17 AM	#8
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Overreacting to a loss don't worry Tafkas all will be forgiven. . . eventually. As for those things that you said you saw RF, i didn't say any of those. But i did say and i will say the coaching staff is too predictable, the defense gives up too many big plays, and the offense can't grind it out in the long run. Actually on second thought, i did lay the f-bomb on a few players, namely Royal, Harris, and another guy. I do think those guys are the weak links. I got caught up, because i was emotional after the way we've been losing these past three weeks. It's just really frustrating to know how good we can be, yet always seem to lose.

11-28-2005, 01:24 AM	#9
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: Overreacting to a loss For me personally I know it's just frustration cuz this team with all of it's close calls and seemingly lack of a killer instinct, the team could easily be 0-11 or 10-1 and seeing the team @ 5-6 is hard to stomach with how well the season seemed to start off. It's just dumbfounding how the team seems incapable of playing a complete game with the same desire and sense of urgency from quarter to quarter save the practical no show vs the giants. We r still only 2 games behind the divisional leaders with games left against both @ home, a visit to the shell-of-their-former-selves-eagles, and 2 upcoming games against seemingly beatable games so I firmly believe that the season is still alive and I will not give up hope. A lot of people, myself included, didn't think the skins would be able to keep todays game close and they did and I think that, silly as it sounds, makes it worse. We all care so much about the success of the Redskins and to see them come so close only to fumble it away or let a win slip from their grasps because they become afraid to lose just makes us all want to scream our lungs out. Some people are going to the extreme with their frustration but a lot of our frustrations have been building over the past dozen years or so and it's somewhat understandable that some r starting to crack. I know it sounds corny but don't give up faith in this team.

11-28-2005, 01:31 AM	#10
e16bball Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 163	Hang In There Hey guys, I've been away for a while, but upon my return it seems like everyone is really down in the dumps, which is perfectly understandable. But I've been having a look at some remaining schedules, and I think we still have a realistic shot. We should definitely take these next two games against the Rams and Cards, and that leaves us 7-6 with the 'Boys coming in. Win that, and we're 8-6 with the G-Men coming in. Win that, and we're 9-6 going into Philly against a depleted Eagles team. Win that, and we're 10-6, and headed to the playoffs. I truly think that it can be done. Don't ask yourself "Do I think this team will win 5 straight," That is too macro, and it's depressing. If you are seeking positivity, ask yourself "Do I think this team will beat the Rams ?" and "Do I think this team will beat the Cardinals?" etc. In all honesty, there is not a game in the upcoming 5 where I think we are unlikely to win. That's crucial. We are just as or more talented than these other teams, and if we can put it all together, we have a damn shot at this thing. I know some of you will think I'm being way too optimistic, but show me a game where you really think we can't win...

11-28-2005, 01:39 AM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: (Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss I didn't mean to sound confused as to why people would be upset. I also didn't mean to sound angry about people who were upset. Sorry if I didn't communicate myself better.

11-28-2005, 01:44 AM	#14
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: (Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss I will say, the Redskins are gonna win their next five and magically make the playoffs. Realistically, the Cowboys and Giants are too good to make the mistakes we've been making the past few weeks. We can easily give up this game against the Rams, because we have a penchant for giving up big plays on defense, and Torry Holt is well known for making big plays, as is Isaac Bruce. I still have hope than in the next week, we will be able to fix our past mistakes and be a complete team. But i figured after our loss to Tampa Bay a couple weeks ago we'd light the fire under the team and get them cracking. It didn't happen last week against the Raiders. After that week i figured we would finally get the mistakes figured out and be the complete team in time for this week. Lo and behold, we didn't fix the mistakes in time for the Chargers. I guess what i'm trying to say is I'm tired of waiting for us to fix our mistakes in time for next week. Maybe the optimism is gone from me, I don't know. I do know that this team is good enough to win every game on their remaining schedule, but i don't know that we can fix the mistakes in time.

11-28-2005, 01:53 AM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: (Merged Thread) Overreacting to a loss It would be great to see some of these players begin taking these losses as hard, and as much to heart as we the fans do. It's difficult not to express your frustration when you continue to loose close games the same way week in and week out espically when you have every opportunity to win. I don't know if it's as much overreacting as it is frustrating, and we all know that we as fans have had enough of loosing these close games every week. Until the loosing stops, fans are always feel the need to vent following this lack of inspired play at too many critical times in games.

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