My 1st anti-coaching thread

Paintrain · 11-27-2005, 04:42 PM

I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things..

Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines.

Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play?

Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week?

Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore..

Bushead · 11-27-2005, 04:46 PM

Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

Hail2em · 11-27-2005, 04:47 PM

yeah i have noticed the same thing about the play calling. seems like they only have a hand full of plays in their playbook. It's either run the ball, play action pass roll out to the tightend or shotgun formation and thats it. I like you if we can see it on tv i know the oppenents have to see it by watching the film each week. not to hard to figure us out.

Redskin · 11-27-2005, 04:48 PM

blitzing let lt break free for the td in reg and the td in ot dumbass

RedskinRat · 11-27-2005, 04:48 PM

When a team gets the ball on the enemy 30 and can't get their kicker close enough to win the game, the playcalling is officially shit.

Yes, the execution was poor, but the calls were limp wristed too.

Redskin · 11-27-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

When a team gets the ball on the enemy 30 and can't get their kicker close enough to win the game, the playcalling is officially shit.

Yes, the execution was poor, but the calls were limp wristed too.

unfortunately we were 3 yards away and we got a holding penalty not exactly easy to get 13 yards i will take 2nd and 3 any day

SmootSmack · 11-27-2005, 04:51 PM

It's not like it's all that different from Gibbs' first run as coach. I mean you knew when they were going to go with the Jumbo offense, or run the counter-tre, or do a bootleg. Not the most extensive playbook, but with a lot of motion and different formations. The key is to execute it well enough that even if they know it's coming they can't stop it. Like Stockton-Malone's pick-and roll

Paintrain · 11-27-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin

blitzing let lt break free for the td in reg and the td in ot dumbass

I was talking about in obvious passing situations.. Williams stopped coming after Brees which allowed him to convert some 3rd and longs..

skinsguy · 11-27-2005, 04:53 PM

So, I suppose what the key to us winning is to get rid of this coaching staff after two years and once again jump back on the coaching carousel? As long as we keep doing that, this franchise will never have another winning team.

Daseal · 11-27-2005, 04:53 PM

TAFKAS, it's a different NFL and he cant hold all the talent he had before thanks to the salary cap. There was a time when we had a dominant O line which we simply don't have anymore. I think Gibbs needs to learn to adapt, because whats happening now obviously isn't working.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-27-2005, 04:54 PM

I am not ready to say Gibbs should call it quits. I'm taking a wait and see approach. If, after we add a wideout and defensive end in the offseason we still lose, then I'll be ready to turn on Gibbs. Until then, I withhold any comments about the coaching staff.

SmootSmack · 11-27-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

TAFKAS, it's a different NFL and he cant hold all the talent he had before thanks to the salary cap. There was a time when we had a dominant O line which we simply don't have anymore. I think Gibbs needs to learn to adapt, because whats happening now obviously isn't working.

You're right, it is much harder. But the team is making efforts to adapt. I mean case in point, the shotgun

Redskin · 11-27-2005, 04:56 PM

you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes

Bushead · 11-27-2005, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin

you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes

You are right, it is kind of weird to be acting so negatively when we are loosing these games so closely. Redskins could easly be 9-2 team, just as easy as they could be a 2-9 team.

Twilbert07 · 11-27-2005, 05:04 PM

It's time for the youth movement on the coaching staff. As much as we all love Joe Gibbs, at this point in his return, he has the exact same record as Steve Spurrier had after 27 games. And Gregg Williams is showing why his stint was so short in Buffalo: he couldn't hold the lead. Let's start anew next year.
We should have two goals for the rest of the season: beat Dallas and see what J. Campbell can do. It can't hurt at this point, when we're a less-than-average team.

11-27-2005, 04:46 PM	#2
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 782	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread Portis is suppose to be making the plays L.T. did today. That is my biggest dissapointment from the coaching staff. They are obviously not using him wisely.

11-27-2005, 04:48 PM	#4
Redskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: University of South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 577	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread blitzing let lt break free for the td in reg and the td in ot dumbass

11-27-2005, 04:48 PM	#5
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread When a team gets the ball on the enemy 30 and can't get their kicker close enough to win the game, the playcalling is officially shit. Yes, the execution was poor, but the calls were limp wristed too.

11-27-2005, 04:51 PM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread It's not like it's all that different from Gibbs' first run as coach. I mean you knew when they were going to go with the Jumbo offense, or run the counter-tre, or do a bootleg. Not the most extensive playbook, but with a lot of motion and different formations. The key is to execute it well enough that even if they know it's coming they can't stop it. Like Stockton-Malone's pick-and roll __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-27-2005, 04:53 PM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread So, I suppose what the key to us winning is to get rid of this coaching staff after two years and once again jump back on the coaching carousel? As long as we keep doing that, this franchise will never have another winning team. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-27-2005, 04:42 PM	#1
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	My 1st anti-coaching thread I've been one that's preached 'trust the coaches' all season and that I trusted Gibbs judgment explicitly but today's loss and the last month in general I think it's time to really question some things.. Playcalling-Terrible decisions on offense with the plays.. Too many conservative playcalls. It seems like there are like 8 total plays in the playbook. When I can sit on my couch in Miami and call the plays before they happen an NFL coach can surely predict the same. Too conservative, playing not to lose=losing football. I'm convinced that this coaching staff is not the right group to get us back to the top. We have better offensive talent than teams scoring 24-31 pts a week but we are not getting it done. That's flat out coaching and execution but it all starts on the sidelines. Defensive playcalling-Same thing, why did we stop blitzing? 3 & 4 man rushes against an offensive line that was allowing pressure all day when the blitz came? Other than Harris the DBs played exceptionally well for most of the game, why not let them give them a chance to make a play? Roster decisions-Derrick Frost is awful, worst punter in the league.. Walt Harris has been terrible since October, why is he still playing?? WR depth was a problem coming out of training camp but how can we not have a WR on the practice squad instead of Jimmy Farris who was out of football last week and the #3 WR this week? Very frustrated and with no #1 pick and up against the cap this offseason I can't say that I'm even looking forward to that anymore.. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

11-27-2005, 04:47 PM	#3
Hail2em Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Va. Beach, Virginia Posts: 229	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread yeah i have noticed the same thing about the play calling. seems like they only have a hand full of plays in their playbook. It's either run the ball, play action pass roll out to the tightend or shotgun formation and thats it. I like you if we can see it on tv i know the oppenents have to see it by watching the film each week. not to hard to figure us out.

11-27-2005, 04:53 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread TAFKAS, it's a different NFL and he cant hold all the talent he had before thanks to the salary cap. There was a time when we had a dominant O line which we simply don't have anymore. I think Gibbs needs to learn to adapt, because whats happening now obviously isn't working. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-27-2005, 04:54 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread I am not ready to say Gibbs should call it quits. I'm taking a wait and see approach. If, after we add a wideout and defensive end in the offseason we still lose, then I'll be ready to turn on Gibbs. Until then, I withhold any comments about the coaching staff.

11-27-2005, 04:56 PM	#13
Redskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: University of South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 577	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread you guys act like we are getting destroyed in these games when they are all close down to the wire we have a good team here we are making stupid mistakes

11-27-2005, 05:04 PM	#15
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: My 1st anti-coaching thread It's time for the youth movement on the coaching staff. As much as we all love Joe Gibbs, at this point in his return, he has the exact same record as Steve Spurrier had after 27 games. And Gregg Williams is showing why his stint was so short in Buffalo: he couldn't hold the lead. Let's start anew next year. We should have two goals for the rest of the season: beat Dallas and see what J. Campbell can do. It can't hurt at this point, when we're a less-than-average team.

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