![]() |
|
Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 |
Pro Bowl
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
Posts: 5,006
|
If Winslow is drafted could we be #1 in offense?
If we draft Kellen Winslow II, could we have the top ranked offense in the league next year? Last year Minnesota was #1 in total yards and KC was #1 in scoring.. With Brunell or Ramsey, Coles, Portis and possibly KII, we would have just as many weapons, if not more, than any team in the league.
|
![]() |
![]() |
Advertisements |
![]() |
#2 |
Thank You, Sean.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Age: 39
Posts: 7,506
|
I think we have a shot to be #1 in the League w/o Winslow. It would depend on the play of the TE/H-back obviously. We have a Great Line, and some awsome weapons, so it should be interesting.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
|
So much of that ranking is subjective. For example, Minnesota had good yardage numbers because their defense was porous enough to let them receive a lot of kickoffs. I know Winslow is miles ahead of any TE/H-back on our roster, but it's hard to say how that'll corrolate to our numbers in yardage or points. He's a great target, but every pass to Winslow is a ball that doesn't go to someone else.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Impact Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brazil, IN
Age: 54
Posts: 883
|
And people will say the same about Sean Taylor. If we get Taylor we will have a number one deffense. Just heard on ESPN radio if both Taylor and Winslow II are still available when we are on the clock. The war room will be spinning.
__________________
HTTR! |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Thank You, Sean.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Age: 39
Posts: 7,506
|
Well if we draft Taylor, we'll still be VERRRY far from being the #1 defense. Thats for sure.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 3,752
|
I would rather not be top ranked at anything and win the Superbowl. Who remembers the top ranked offense in any given year? They remember the world champs. Having a fantasy league type offense is for video games. With the salary cap you cannot afford to have all your stars on one side of the ball.
Bowen and Ohalete are not very good. They are adequate at best. Plus the Free Safety position is a very important piece to a successful defense. All the recent Superbowl winners had at least one good safety. While I understan some of you folks that would like to have a fantasy league offense by adding Winslow... Repairing our defense and creating a balanced roster is more important. I don't want to be the KC Chiefs. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 |
Impact Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Crofton, MD
Age: 55
Posts: 907
|
A #1 offense does not win championships. A balanced team with good offense, defense, and special teams does. That said, I agree with Gmanc711 that our O has the potential even without KW. The top SCORING offense is one thing, but the top ranked offense is by yards, which can be misleading....same with defense with points or yards allowed.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Contains football related knowledge
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 62
Posts: 10,401
|
I am with you SkinsRock. That is why I am for drafting Taylor - Balance. We have some solid playmakers on offense. A nice little set of "triplets" if you will - solid QB (whoever wins the job), premier running back and receiver; with a solid, if not spectacular, undercard behind them. On defense, outside of LaVar (and with apologies to Smoot), where are the playmakers?
Absent a trade down, to me this is a no-brainer: Taylor over KWII Last edited by JoeRedskin; 04-21-2004 at 01:16 PM. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 | |
The Starter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bristol, CT
Age: 61
Posts: 1,001
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 |
Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 44
Posts: 3,813
|
the rams won with the #1 offense didn't they and reached another superbowl 2. the broncos and packer offenses were much better than their respective defenses a few years back when each won their superbowls. either way i'm excited to actually be able to argue over whether to get an awesome te to make our offense scary as hell or a premier safety with tremendous playmaking ability.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 |
Pro Bowl
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Age: 42
Posts: 5,454
|
If we had Winslow our offense would be in an elite group. Yes everyball to Winslow is a ball taken away from someone else. But a ball to Winslow that creates a first down is better then an incomplete pass to covered receivers. Look at the Giants, they run all over us when Shockey is in the game, we cant cover him and the receivers. We'd have that same threat. Taylor would help cover shockey but id kinda like to see our offense roll over people.
__________________
"I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#12 |
Thank You, Sean.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Age: 39
Posts: 7,506
|
Clayton, ESPN.com senior NFL writer:" Joe Gibbs already told Kellen Winslow that if he's here, the Redskins will take him. He's the perfect H-back type tight end for the system that Gibbs wants to run. Gibbs coached Kellen Sr., so it's fitting that he gets to coach the son."
This was during the espn mock draft. Anyone else heard that Gibbs said we would take winslow? |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#13 | |
Playmaker
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 44
Posts: 3,813
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#14 |
Pro Bowl
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Jersey
Age: 42
Posts: 5,454
|
No one thinks Gibbs would lie, he giggles like a schoolboy during every press conference. Which means hes either very honest, or hes playing everyone into doing as he pleases.
__________________
"I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Propane and propane accessories
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Age: 55
Posts: 4,719
|
I have been pro KW II from the get go (I think I was the only one who voted for him in the draft poll
![]() Give Gibbs the weapons, and finish fixing the d with FA's, low draft picks, and next year's draft. Taylor is awesome, and I wouldn't be at all disapointed with him. But KW II and Gibbs just seems like the right fit to me, especailly given that we DON'T HAVE AN H-BACK AT PRESENT.
__________________
Hail from Houston! |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|