Basically, it all starts with Portis

hurrykaine · 10-31-2005, 02:21 PM

We live and die by Portis, the ability of the O-line to run block, and the design of the running plays.

If the O-line does not create holes for Portis when facing just 4 rushing D-linemen, we can't run, and more importantly, we won't be able to pass against tough division opponents.

Bring in Molinaro. He's got to be better than Samuels at blocking bull-rushers (maybe that's wishful thinking). Dockery is a back-up at best. Jansen's play has dropped off too, but I attribute that to his being thumbless.

Portis is due for a monster game. If he puts up a few more sub 50yds per game performances, he will get frustrated and implode on the team. We have to emulate the Denver/Pitt type of O-line. In free agency or through the draft.

dblanch66 · 10-31-2005, 02:32 PM

Yep. The line got pushed around yesterday.

irish · 10-31-2005, 02:33 PM

CP is just not getting the job done. He better start focusing on scoring TD against the better teams in the league instaed of his rock-star persona he adopted sice signing the big contract with the skins.

amorentz · 10-31-2005, 02:41 PM

Im sorry guys, but you need to give Portis more than 4 carries if you expect him to make any contribution. Its absolutely insane to criticize the guy when he didnt even have a chance to run the ball.

Hog1 · 10-31-2005, 02:45 PM

The O-line has been inconsistent all year. Some games good. Other games Brunell gets chased all over the field. Toooo many penalties for seasoned guys! Something that definately needs to be addressed in the off season. Portis has had some real good games. Not enough. I would like to see him, at least, get to the line backers before getting his first hit. His speed is not being used enough. JOE BUGEL...........you gettin' all this?

CrazyCanuck · 10-31-2005, 02:51 PM

The O-line was brutal so it's hard to put too much blame on Portis.

But - I wish he'd spend less time working on his costumes and more time practicing making SHARP cuts like Tiki does. Maybe he'd break a long run once in a while too. And I didn't see Tiki trip over his own feet once out there.

"I'm Jerome from SE DC, and I headed out to NY this weekend, and I rushed for 6 yards."

Daseal · 10-31-2005, 02:53 PM

I question how bad Portis' injury really is.

Hog1 · 10-31-2005, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

The O-line was brutal so it's hard to put too much blame on Portis.

But - I wish he'd spend less time working on his costumes and more time practicing making SHARP cuts like Tiki does. Maybe he'd break a long run once in a while too. And I didn't see Tiki trip over his own feet once out there.

"I'm Jerome from SE DC, and I headed out to NY this weekend, and I rushed for 6 yards."

Good Call Crazy, Watching Tiki, I thought I was watching the second coming of Barry Sanders. The cuts he made left our guys literally falling down. They looked like High School. I was, and still am shell shocked!

Southpaw · 10-31-2005, 03:25 PM

It's already been stated several times, but what do you guys expect him to do with FOUR carries?

MTK · 10-31-2005, 03:54 PM

I agree that it's hard to put much blame on CP when you only give him the ball 4 times. We bailed on the run really quick, probably too quick.

JWsleep · 10-31-2005, 04:06 PM

O-line all the way--they couldn't run block; they couldn't pass block. Nothing in Gibbs offense is going to work if that's the case.

We got manhandled on both sides of the line of scrimmage. You can't win games when that happens.

So, if Portis was so bad, how did Betts do? Not so great either. Suggests to me that its the o-line and not Portis.

redsk1 · 10-31-2005, 05:11 PM

Yea, I want to say we only had the ball for 6 plays during the 1st quarter. I think we managed to eek out about 15-20 net yards during the first half. I don't think LT

redsk1 · 10-31-2005, 05:19 PM

Yea, I want to say we only had the ball for 6 plays during the 1st quarter. I think we managed to eek out about 15-20 net yards during the first half. I don't think Barry Sanders could have gained 5 yards w/ our blocking yesterday. CP did the best one could expect from anyone yesterday. He got popped pretty good yesterday. I was kindof surprised he got back in the game.

That Guy · 10-31-2005, 06:24 PM

tiki always seems to trash us, but yesterday was insanity. Looking back he's always been a much better RB then i've given him credit for (due to fumbling issues, being on the giants, etc).

jrocx69 · 10-31-2005, 08:46 PM

i just notice portis run downhill so much (when he does have a hole) that he falls on his own. he's just not the player we were hoping him to be. if we start betts i bet he gets more 100 yard games with this team than portis. Does anyone else see that?... Portis always falls on his own face first when he could have gotten serveral more yards. Its like he runs completely downhill to where it benefits the other teams.

10-31-2005, 02:21 PM	#1
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Basically, it all starts with Portis We live and die by Portis, the ability of the O-line to run block, and the design of the running plays. If the O-line does not create holes for Portis when facing just 4 rushing D-linemen, we can't run, and more importantly, we won't be able to pass against tough division opponents. Bring in Molinaro. He's got to be better than Samuels at blocking bull-rushers (maybe that's wishful thinking). Dockery is a back-up at best. Jansen's play has dropped off too, but I attribute that to his being thumbless. Portis is due for a monster game. If he puts up a few more sub 50yds per game performances, he will get frustrated and implode on the team. We have to emulate the Denver/Pitt type of O-line. In free agency or through the draft.

10-31-2005, 02:32 PM	#2
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis Yep. The line got pushed around yesterday.

10-31-2005, 02:33 PM	#3
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis CP is just not getting the job done. He better start focusing on scoring TD against the better teams in the league instaed of his rock-star persona he adopted sice signing the big contract with the skins.

10-31-2005, 02:41 PM	#4
amorentz Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 44 Posts: 368	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis Im sorry guys, but you need to give Portis more than 4 carries if you expect him to make any contribution. Its absolutely insane to criticize the guy when he didnt even have a chance to run the ball.

10-31-2005, 02:45 PM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis The O-line has been inconsistent all year. Some games good. Other games Brunell gets chased all over the field. Toooo many penalties for seasoned guys! Something that definately needs to be addressed in the off season. Portis has had some real good games. Not enough. I would like to see him, at least, get to the line backers before getting his first hit. His speed is not being used enough. JOE BUGEL...........you gettin' all this? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-31-2005, 02:51 PM	#6
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis The O-line was brutal so it's hard to put too much blame on Portis. But - I wish he'd spend less time working on his costumes and more time practicing making SHARP cuts like Tiki does. Maybe he'd break a long run once in a while too. And I didn't see Tiki trip over his own feet once out there. "I'm Jerome from SE DC, and I headed out to NY this weekend, and I rushed for 6 yards."

10-31-2005, 02:53 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis I question how bad Portis' injury really is. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-31-2005, 03:25 PM	#9
Southpaw The Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: So. MD Age: 46 Posts: 1,319	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis It's already been stated several times, but what do you guys expect him to do with FOUR carries?

10-31-2005, 03:54 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis I agree that it's hard to put much blame on CP when you only give him the ball 4 times. We bailed on the run really quick, probably too quick.

10-31-2005, 04:06 PM	#11
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,714	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis O-line all the way--they couldn't run block; they couldn't pass block. Nothing in Gibbs offense is going to work if that's the case. We got manhandled on both sides of the line of scrimmage. You can't win games when that happens. So, if Portis was so bad, how did Betts do? Not so great either. Suggests to me that its the o-line and not Portis. __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-31-2005, 05:11 PM	#12
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis Yea, I want to say we only had the ball for 6 plays during the 1st quarter. I think we managed to eek out about 15-20 net yards during the first half. I don't think LT

10-31-2005, 05:19 PM	#13
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis Yea, I want to say we only had the ball for 6 plays during the 1st quarter. I think we managed to eek out about 15-20 net yards during the first half. I don't think Barry Sanders could have gained 5 yards w/ our blocking yesterday. CP did the best one could expect from anyone yesterday. He got popped pretty good yesterday. I was kindof surprised he got back in the game.

10-31-2005, 06:24 PM	#14
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis tiki always seems to trash us, but yesterday was insanity. Looking back he's always been a much better RB then i've given him credit for (due to fumbling issues, being on the giants, etc).

10-31-2005, 08:46 PM	#15
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	Re: Basically, it all starts with Portis i just notice portis run downhill so much (when he does have a hole) that he falls on his own. he's just not the player we were hoping him to be. if we start betts i bet he gets more 100 yard games with this team than portis. Does anyone else see that?... Portis always falls on his own face first when he could have gotten serveral more yards. Its like he runs completely downhill to where it benefits the other teams.

Basically, it all starts with Portis

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