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Daseal · 04-15-2004, 06:21 PM

I know I rip you guys a lot, but I have a question. With all the people saying we don't have an H back, we don't have an H back. How many of you think Mike Williams could make an H back. I don't like him that much as a receiver, but can he block? He definitly has the size and as a receiving threat he'd be extremely dangerous, just curious as to what you guys think about this.

mizzo skins man · 04-15-2004, 06:26 PM

A little off subject, but I think the best Trojan in the draft is Udeze. That is the NEED for the Skins.

Daseal · 04-15-2004, 06:36 PM

a) How is this possibly off subject? It has to do with the Redskins draft and player potential, and Udeeze will be a 3rd down rusher for most of his career, in my opinion. Definitly not worth a top 10 pick. I'm curious about Mike Williams, if you like Udeeze, start a Udeeze thread, we'll talk there!

Riggo44 · 04-15-2004, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzo skins man

A little off subject, but I think the best Trojan in the draft is Udeze. That is the NEED for the Skins.

I would have do agree.

Carnage · 04-15-2004, 07:44 PM

The kids got nice hands. Hell, at 20 he's probably still growing.

SKINSnCANES · 04-15-2004, 07:46 PM

Hed get pushed around by linemen and linebackers

Daseal · 04-15-2004, 08:35 PM

Obviously he'd need a bit more weight and some more training, but no chance for it to be a possibility?

joecrisp · 04-15-2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Obviously he'd need a bit more weight and some more training, but no chance for it to be a possibility?

I don't think it's entirely out of the question. Given his youth, it's certainly possible that he could gain another 10-15 lbs of muscle pretty easily over the next couple of years, once he's been inserted into an NFL training regimen. That would put him at just about the right size for an H-back (though 255-260 lbs would be more optimal-- especially given his 6'5" frame). Aside from that, the main question is going to be his blocking skills. I don't know much about him in that area, but if he can block and increase his mass, he would definitely be a good option at H-back.

I just can't see anyone drafting him with immediate designs of making him an H-back. If he proves to be less-than-stellar as a receiver, then I think he'd have to consider a move to H-back, and do the work necessary to make that change.

PSUskinsfan11 · 04-15-2004, 09:28 PM

Don't see it happening. David Boston is a monster and no one has tried that with him.

p.s. Udeze would be a huge upgrade to what we have now, you might be eating those 3rd down rusher words in a few years Daseal.

skinsfanthru&thru · 04-15-2004, 09:33 PM

I've heard talk about some teams thinking he'll be a really good wr but an even better TE if he added about 15-20 lbs. I wouldn't be all that upset if the appeal of the ruling letting him into the draft is upheld and then it gets reversed again in the supreme court cuz then we'd have a chance to get him in the supplemental draft. I know we'd have to give up next years 1st rounder if we did it but he's one of the top 10-15 players in this years draft so why not.

joecrisp · 04-15-2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

Don't see it happening. David Boston is a monster and no one has tried that with him.

That's true, and it's a good analogy, but Boston has more than proven himself as a wideout-- and has displayed excellent deep speed to complement his ridiculous physique.

Daseal · 04-15-2004, 10:52 PM

Too bad he's CRAZY!

joecrisp · 04-15-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Too bad he's CRAZY!

Exactly.

Tremendous physical talent, horrible attitude. Unfortunately, too many players fall into that category in today's NFL.

itvnetop · 04-16-2004, 12:08 AM

Wow Daseal- was wondering why you bag on us damn much! j/k hehehe. anyway, BMW could play either in my opinion. In fact, the reason he didn't go to the florida schools is b/c they recruited him as a TE exclusively and they wouldn't let him line up as a receiver. He's pretty stocked as it is and he lost 15 pounds for his pro-workout (probably for 40 purposes), but i'm sure he'd have no problem matching up with linebackers. He's definitely the strongest wideout in the draft class.

offiss · 04-16-2004, 02:43 AM

The word on Williams amoung GM's is they hope someone pick's him in the 10 to 12 range which will leave much more talented player's on the board when they pick, there has been a lot of hype about him but he will probably be the guy who really drop's in this draft, and yes most GM's are very worried that he really is a TE trying to play WR at 20yrs. old and the fact he had to work his tail off just to drop 9lbs. for his pro day really has concerned a lot of GM's, they don't feel he will be anle to continue that work ethic, not because he's lazy, just that his body type will continue to fill out.

04-15-2004, 06:21 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	For USC fans! I know I rip you guys a lot, but I have a question. With all the people saying we don't have an H back, we don't have an H back. How many of you think Mike Williams could make an H back. I don't like him that much as a receiver, but can he block? He definitly has the size and as a receiving threat he'd be extremely dangerous, just curious as to what you guys think about this.

04-15-2004, 07:46 PM	#6
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Hed get pushed around by linemen and linebackers __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-16-2004, 12:08 AM	#14
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	Wow Daseal- was wondering why you bag on us damn much! j/k hehehe. anyway, BMW could play either in my opinion. In fact, the reason he didn't go to the florida schools is b/c they recruited him as a TE exclusively and they wouldn't let him line up as a receiver. He's pretty stocked as it is and he lost 15 pounds for his pro-workout (probably for 40 purposes), but i'm sure he'd have no problem matching up with linebackers. He's definitely the strongest wideout in the draft class. Last edited by itvnetop; 04-16-2004 at 12:13 AM.

04-15-2004, 06:26 PM	#2
mizzo skins man Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St. Joseph Missouri Age: 48 Posts: 83	A little off subject, but I think the best Trojan in the draft is Udeze. That is the NEED for the Skins.

04-15-2004, 06:36 PM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	a) How is this possibly off subject? It has to do with the Redskins draft and player potential, and Udeeze will be a 3rd down rusher for most of his career, in my opinion. Definitly not worth a top 10 pick. I'm curious about Mike Williams, if you like Udeeze, start a Udeeze thread, we'll talk there!

04-15-2004, 07:44 PM	#5
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	The kids got nice hands. Hell, at 20 he's probably still growing.

04-15-2004, 08:35 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Obviously he'd need a bit more weight and some more training, but no chance for it to be a possibility?

04-15-2004, 09:28 PM	#9
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Don't see it happening. David Boston is a monster and no one has tried that with him. p.s. Udeze would be a huge upgrade to what we have now, you might be eating those 3rd down rusher words in a few years Daseal.

04-15-2004, 09:33 PM	#10
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	I've heard talk about some teams thinking he'll be a really good wr but an even better TE if he added about 15-20 lbs. I wouldn't be all that upset if the appeal of the ruling letting him into the draft is upheld and then it gets reversed again in the supreme court cuz then we'd have a chance to get him in the supplemental draft. I know we'd have to give up next years 1st rounder if we did it but he's one of the top 10-15 players in this years draft so why not.

04-15-2004, 10:52 PM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Too bad he's CRAZY!

04-16-2004, 02:43 AM	#15
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	The word on Williams amoung GM's is they hope someone pick's him in the 10 to 12 range which will leave much more talented player's on the board when they pick, there has been a lot of hype about him but he will probably be the guy who really drop's in this draft, and yes most GM's are very worried that he really is a TE trying to play WR at 20yrs. old and the fact he had to work his tail off just to drop 9lbs. for his pro day really has concerned a lot of GM's, they don't feel he will be anle to continue that work ethic, not because he's lazy, just that his body type will continue to fill out.

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