Review: Redskins vs. Ravens

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-02-2005, 09:36 AM

Even though I'm going to go ahead and preface this by saying, "PLEASE DON'T OVERANALYZE LAST NIGHT." being the fact that we have a whole week until the regular season it will inevitably happen, but anyway. Already I'm hearing cut Brown, keep Farris, come on now, how fickle ARE we? Farris played a great single game, just as Brown played a poor single game. Just remember to take a look at someone's performances during the WHOLE preseason not just last night. Even though we lost there were many positives and a couple negatives that can be taken from this game:

Positives:
1) No injuries to the starters.
2) Starting offensive line still played great regardless of two sacks.
3) Portis running like a BEAST.
4) Ramsey making good decisions and not forcing the ball when he didn't have to.
5) THE ADE MADE A HIT!

Negatives:
1) Penalties. That HAS to be frustrating for Antonio Brown.
2) Manuel White being our only injury.
3) I am concerned about our backup DBs.

Daseal · 09-02-2005, 09:41 AM

Farris makes a good argument for a roster spot. He played well, got open, and had super glue on his hands. I still think A. Brown can be a good receiver, but Farris shouldn't be overlooked. Cutting brown FOR farris isn't the answer though.

MTK · 09-02-2005, 09:44 AM

Brown won't get cut, his spot is cemented as the return man so let's stop with that foolish talk.

We wouldn't have a team left if the fans ran things, we'd be cutting players left and right. LOL

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-02-2005, 09:47 AM

Seriously! I'm fine with him at return man and we'll leave it at that. I'd also be cautiously optimistic if he had to come in as a WR as well. I agree that Farris should be given a look, but not at the expense of someone who deserves a spot. Maybe Farris can take the spot Rufus Brown will obviously be vacating?

12thMan · 09-02-2005, 10:11 AM

I'm impressed with the D-Line, especially C.Griff. He's gonna have a great year, as will Jansen. I think Friedman stays over Raymer on the O-line too.

Overall a lot of positives coming out of this preseason. No team has worked out all the kinks so far, so we should be encouraged. And I think we can take comfort in knowing that if Ramsey falters, we now have a rejuvenated and capable back-up in Brunell.

gortiz · 09-02-2005, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Brown won't get cut, his spot is cemented as the return man so let's stop with that foolish talk.

We wouldn't have a team left if the fans ran things, we'd be cutting players left and right. LOL

I understand Brown had a great camp, and he has blazing speed, and he still deserves to be on this team, but he by know means is untouchable. ... (not saying you said that)

He hasn't had a real good return in four preseason games, and one thing I noticed about him is that he will go down with an arm tackle. He has dropped several balls - I mean, if it means keeping him and keeping, let say farris or T. Jacobs, the possibiilty of him being let go should be there.

Lets not forget, he has been released already or a reason ...

12thMan · 09-02-2005, 10:18 AM

What's intesting is that last year the Chiefs experimented with expanding Dante Hall's role at wide receiver. It's certainly possible that it diminished his ability as a return man. He certainly didn't have a breakout year like in '03. So I think Vermeil is going to pretty much keep him focused in that role and not try to transform him something he's not.

What I'm saying is, like Hall (no comparison skill wise, D. Hall is the man!) A. Brown is just a specialist and really nothing els, and perhaps Gibbs and Co. just wanted to make sure that he is indeed just a specialist. Of course anything more would be icing on the cake, IMO.

MTK · 09-02-2005, 10:23 AM

Times like this you have to look at the big picture. Look at what Brown did at the end of last year. The guy turned a stale return game into an exciting one. One bad game in the preseason isn't going to get him cut.

He hasn't done a whole lot this preseason to make the coaches think he should get more reps at WR, but his place as our return man is set.

mooby · 09-02-2005, 10:28 AM

that might be true 12thman. brown isn't gonna get cut because he's not a good wideout. rufus brown is headed for the practice squad, i'm willing to bet on that cuz they need him if we get injured. sideeq shabazz is gone, dude gets burnt for big catches more often than the ade. we can't keep farris, cartwright, and broughton, and anyone of those three might be gone. penalties absolutely killed us, they need to work on that. i don't know how anyone can say portis ran all over them last night, he only had 2 carries for 16 yards. ramsey only played a couple series too, he went 2-4.

gortiz · 09-02-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

What's intesting is that last year the Chiefs experimented with expanding Dante Hall's role at wide receiver. It's certainly possible that it diminished his ability as a return man. He certainly didn't have a breakout year like in '03. So I think Vermeil is going to pretty much keep him focused in that role and not try to transform him something he's not.

What I'm saying is, like Hall (no comparison skill wise, D. Hall is the man!) A. Brown is just a specialist and really nothing els, and perhaps Gibbs and Co. just wanted to make sure that he is indeed just a specialist. Of course anything more would be icing on the cake, IMO.

I agree, but to be honest, a guy who strictly just returns kicks better be exceptional at it, and so far when I think of Brown, I think of that good return last year, (against Minnesota?), moster fumble at Dallas, 4 straight drop balls last night, dropped touchdown earlier in preseason, I really don't think he is lighting up right now, Parson's put him to shame last night!

I think Gibbs is the type of coach that expects guys to be a little more than one dimensional, ala Thrash, and Jacobs and their special teams play, pass catching ability and with Thrash, his return ability ...

12thMan · 09-02-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

that might be true 12thman. brown isn't gonna get cut because he's not a good wideout. rufus brown is headed for the practice squad, i'm willing to bet on that cuz they need him if we get injured. sideeq shabazz is gone, dude gets burnt for big catches more often than the ade. we can't keep farris, cartwright, and broughton, and anyone of those three might be gone. penalties absolutely killed us, they need to work on that. i don't know how anyone can say portis ran all over them last night, he only had 2 carries for 16 yards. ramsey only played a couple series too, he went 2-4.

Farris will be the odd man out, much to our dismay as fickle fans. LOL He displays Thrash like qualities anyway - and since Thrash is better and proven I think we'll be fine. I think the Manny White injury, unfortunately, helps Nemo make the team. White was pretty much going to be an H-Back/Fullback.

I don't think it was that Portis ran over anyone, I think it was more that he broke the line of scrimage for more than five yards!! Which is encouraging because last year he earned some tough yards. By the way, he did drag one of the their DBs a couple of yards for a first down and Suggs had to help out on the tackle.

12thMan · 09-02-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gortiz

I agree, but to be honest, a guy who strictly just returns kicks better be exceptional at it, and so far when I think of Brown, I think of that good return last year, (against Minnesota?), moster fumble at Dallas, 4 straight drop balls last night, dropped touchdown earlier in preseason, I really don't think he is lighting up right now, Parson's put him to shame last night!

I think Gibbs is the type of coach that expects guys to be a little more than one dimensional, ala Thrash, and Jacobs and their special teams play, pass catching ability and with Thrash, his return ability ...

One dimensional he is - I'm not convinced that he's on the bubble though.

gortiz · 09-02-2005, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

One dimensional he is - I'm not convinced that he's on the bubble though.

I'm sure he is know where close to being cut - but he for sure, raised eyebrows and hurt stock value after those drops! And not just as a WR ...

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-02-2005, 10:55 AM

I just can't wait until next week!!! The reasons are two-fold.

1) I get to party with some good friends from WP.
2) I just have a gut feeling we'll decimate the Bears. People haven't seen all Portis has to offer yet. Running a PURELY vanilla offense, he's been able to rack up yards.

gortiz · 09-02-2005, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I just can't wait until next week!!! The reasons are two-fold.

1) I get to party with some good friends from WP.
2) I just have a gut feeling we'll decimate the Bears. People haven't seen all Portis has to offer yet. Running a PURELY vanilla offense, he's been able to rack up yards.

I think we will dominate defensively, and the offense will be adequate, then in a few weeks, the offense will make strides and catch up ... skins 21-13 in a defensively dominated game!

09-02-2005, 09:36 AM	#1
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Review: Redskins vs. Ravens Even though I'm going to go ahead and preface this by saying, "PLEASE DON'T OVERANALYZE LAST NIGHT." being the fact that we have a whole week until the regular season it will inevitably happen, but anyway. Already I'm hearing cut Brown, keep Farris, come on now, how fickle ARE we? Farris played a great single game, just as Brown played a poor single game. Just remember to take a look at someone's performances during the WHOLE preseason not just last night. Even though we lost there were many positives and a couple negatives that can be taken from this game: Positives: 1) No injuries to the starters. 2) Starting offensive line still played great regardless of two sacks. 3) Portis running like a BEAST. 4) Ramsey making good decisions and not forcing the ball when he didn't have to. 5) THE ADE MADE A HIT! Negatives: 1) Penalties. That HAS to be frustrating for Antonio Brown. 2) Manuel White being our only injury. 3) I am concerned about our backup DBs. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-02-2005, 09:41 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens Farris makes a good argument for a roster spot. He played well, got open, and had super glue on his hands. I still think A. Brown can be a good receiver, but Farris shouldn't be overlooked. Cutting brown FOR farris isn't the answer though. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

09-02-2005, 09:44 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens Brown won't get cut, his spot is cemented as the return man so let's stop with that foolish talk. We wouldn't have a team left if the fans ran things, we'd be cutting players left and right. LOL

09-02-2005, 09:47 AM	#4
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens Seriously! I'm fine with him at return man and we'll leave it at that. I'd also be cautiously optimistic if he had to come in as a WR as well. I agree that Farris should be given a look, but not at the expense of someone who deserves a spot. Maybe Farris can take the spot Rufus Brown will obviously be vacating? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-02-2005, 10:11 AM	#5
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens I'm impressed with the D-Line, especially C.Griff. He's gonna have a great year, as will Jansen. I think Friedman stays over Raymer on the O-line too. Overall a lot of positives coming out of this preseason. No team has worked out all the kinks so far, so we should be encouraged. And I think we can take comfort in knowing that if Ramsey falters, we now have a rejuvenated and capable back-up in Brunell.

09-02-2005, 10:18 AM	#7
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens What's intesting is that last year the Chiefs experimented with expanding Dante Hall's role at wide receiver. It's certainly possible that it diminished his ability as a return man. He certainly didn't have a breakout year like in '03. So I think Vermeil is going to pretty much keep him focused in that role and not try to transform him something he's not. What I'm saying is, like Hall (no comparison skill wise, D. Hall is the man!) A. Brown is just a specialist and really nothing els, and perhaps Gibbs and Co. just wanted to make sure that he is indeed just a specialist. Of course anything more would be icing on the cake, IMO.

09-02-2005, 10:23 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens Times like this you have to look at the big picture. Look at what Brown did at the end of last year. The guy turned a stale return game into an exciting one. One bad game in the preseason isn't going to get him cut. He hasn't done a whole lot this preseason to make the coaches think he should get more reps at WR, but his place as our return man is set.

09-02-2005, 10:28 AM	#9
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens that might be true 12thman. brown isn't gonna get cut because he's not a good wideout. rufus brown is headed for the practice squad, i'm willing to bet on that cuz they need him if we get injured. sideeq shabazz is gone, dude gets burnt for big catches more often than the ade. we can't keep farris, cartwright, and broughton, and anyone of those three might be gone. penalties absolutely killed us, they need to work on that. i don't know how anyone can say portis ran all over them last night, he only had 2 carries for 16 yards. ramsey only played a couple series too, he went 2-4. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

09-02-2005, 10:55 AM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Review: Redskins vs. Ravens I just can't wait until next week!!! The reasons are two-fold. 1) I get to party with some good friends from WP. 2) I just have a gut feeling we'll decimate the Bears. People haven't seen all Portis has to offer yet. Running a PURELY vanilla offense, he's been able to rack up yards. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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