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Old 08-18-2005, 09:24 PM   #1
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It never ceases to amaze me...

According to Dr. Z -

"Say what you want about the Cowboys' Jerry Jones, but wouldn't you want to have a guy like him in your corner? During the offseason he left an owners' meeting early to fly east for a late contract negotiation with former Jets nose tackle Jason Ferguson. The Jets offered Ferguson $8 million in front and it was almost a done deal before Jones swung it by coming in at $9 million.

He's 30 and he's had weight problems through the years (that's Ferguson, not Jones), but he's the one guy Bill Parcells felt he had to have to make his new 3-4 defense work. So Jones gave the guy the VIP treatment. We're not talking about a glamour position here; we're talking about an owner-nose tackle sitdown. Contrast this, please, with a character such as Dan Snyder, whose team keeps drafting quarterbacks because he likes, as he's said, "sexy" picks."


Jerry Jones gives an older vet first class treatment to get him signed w/ a big old signing bonus and somehow its f***ing brilliant, but, when Danny Boy does it, its just mindless showboating.

I am sure Gibbs had NOTHING to do with the Campbell pick - you know the owner just flaking out again. Also, didnt Z crucify LDS and gang when they signed Springs??

It's one thing to say "Well they've sucked for a while, so they got to show me something before I'll acknowledge that they have turned things around."

It's another for Z to praise one owner (Jerry freaking Jones - of all people) for conduct (paying big bucks and giving first class treatment to ensure the signing of an older veteran player) almost identical to Snyder's conduct (Can anyone say "Redskins One"??) for which he only had scorn (hmmm - Randy Thomas anyone?) AND then to throw in a gratuitous dig for conduct (trading up to draft a player THE COACHES wanted) unrelated to the conduct he found praiseworthy in Jones. Hell, if anything - the Campbell pick shows how supportive of Gibbs Danny is. Remember, Ramsey was originally an ALL Snyder pick! AND - wasn't Snyder's "I like sexy picks" made a couple years ago and not even related to the Skins picking Campbell ??

God, these guys just piss me off.

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Old 08-18-2005, 09:32 PM   #2
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Re: It never ceases to amaze me...

Dr.Z is an ass! :vomit-smi
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:49 PM   #3
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Re: It never ceases to amaze me...

Dr. Z and Peter King both simply hate the Redskins and everything they do.

Then again, until the Dan Snyder-"sexy" draft picks and free agent meetings generate some wins, we can expect more of this.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:34 PM   #4
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Screw it, doesn't change a thing. We are the only people that believe in US, We are the dedicated, We are the strong, We will stick this shit in these people's faces the day WE win. So much bull shit when two teams have the same f#!@$#!$ record that the damn media still gives preference to one f#$! !@$ team. IF the stinking cow f#$@! had won the superbowl peter king and his boy toy dr. Z and everyone else at SI would have a point but they didn't they actually got worse and at this pace they will win 2 next year and we got better and we will continue to do better.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:40 PM   #5
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Re: It never ceases to amaze me...

I dont mind when people are critical of the Redskins. I dont mind when they are REALLY critical about the Redskins. But, when they are hypocritical about the Redskins, it really, really pisses me off.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:47 PM   #6
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Re: It never ceases to amaze me...

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It's another for Z to praise one owner (Jerry freaking Jones - of all people) for conduct (paying big bucks and giving first class treatment to ensure the signing of an older veteran player) almost identical to Snyder's conduct (Can anyone say "Redskins One"??) for which he only had scorn (hmmm - Randy Thomas anyone?) AND then to throw in a gratuitous dig for conduct (trading up to draft a player THE COACHES wanted) unrelated to the conduct he found praiseworthy in Jones.
Thats a hell of a sentance there. It's longer than most of my paragraphs lol. I wonder what a diagram of that sentance would look like...


Seriously though, you are right, but the only reason It pisses me off because he's finding something fairly trivial to write about, but still manages to glorify "america's team" and demean the skins. F'em.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:39 AM   #7
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Taking Dr. Z seriously, or just about anything SI writes anymore, is just plain silly. The man knows less about football than my lizard. My guess is that he used to write an entertainment column, but got fired because he wasn't very entertaining. It's a waste of time to read him. Peter King, on the other hand, is a pretty knowledgeable guy. He just does not like Dan Snyder. Take him with a grain of salt, and count on the team to make him eat his words this year.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:39 AM   #8
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Thats a hell of a sentance there. It's longer than most of my paragraphs lol. I wonder what a diagram of that sentance would look like...
Simple - it would look exactly like a diagram of the answer to Question 3.
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:57 AM   #9
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Anyone get the same annoyance from the Vikes this year? Everyone says they are going to be great because they brought in a bunch of free agents.

I just kept thinking how much we would have been lambasted for it; (It was nice not to have to so that this year for once!)
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see even the viks won a game in the playoffs but i completly understand that they are doing what we have been critized for but the cowF#@s had the same record as us and most of the media feels they are much better for some reason, atleast the people at SI feel that way
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Re: It never ceases to amaze me...

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see even the viks won a game in the playoffs but i completly understand that they are doing what we have been critized for but the cowF#@s had the same record as us and most of the media feels they are much better for some reason, atleast the people at SI feel that way
It's that "Parcells glow" - that's the only explanation.

The 2004 Cowboys lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 14 points or more.

The 2004 Redskins lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 7 points or less.

That's an indicator of something.
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It's that "Parcells glow" - that's the only explanation.

The 2004 Cowboys lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 14 points or more.

The 2004 Redskins lost 10 games. Seven of those games were by 7 points or less.

That's an indicator of something.
Great point Brudlee. I wish someone in the national media could figure that one out.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:12 PM   #13
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OK I usually don't agree with Dr. Z and I really don't like peter King but I do like the Ferguson pick this year. Now your critizising the same writers that predicted last year that your team will reach the playoff just because they sign Gibbs and thought it would have the same effect Parcell had with D'Boyz hey even Snyder thought so otherwise he wouldn't had brought him in the first place.

Second those where the same guys who praised and declared the Portis deal as the best deal the skins have made and I do believe Portis was an excellent pick, and critizise the brunell pick not so much because of brunell but because of the amount of money they payed him. Wich we can agree is a lot for a BACKUP and posible in a future, a 3rd QB. We all know brunell will be gone at season ends if not earlier, that's money going to the toilet.

And again this are the same media guys who praised every year the free agent moves that Snyder did Sanders, B.Smith and on and on........ and said "this is the year that the Redskins are going to the playoff" and even sometimes said they were going to the superball some of them. Sorry if they changed their mind and they're are a little skeptical about Snyder and the Skins but can you blame them, they have to prove something first.

Now they're only saying that Finally Jones spend some money remember this is the same owner that last year with cap space and in need of a cb didn't went for 1 or drafted 1 because they thought a 4th rounder who isn't on the team anymore was a capable starter.

They're only saying that he finally went for the players he wanted and didn't wanted to get the cheap 1 or the leftovers wich was the strategy years before, hey we didn't pick Berry last year because he cost 2 mill more of a signing bonus than Wiley and we all know how that turn out. Now can this all backfire YES it can; Ferguson, Rivera, Henry and Bledsoe can all suck at the end but did the Boy'z did a good move of going for the players they wanted they did hey Bledsoe came cheap if he doesn't turn out right it won't hurt me as much as the Brunell deal.

Now I still don't get the Campbell draft trade you could have get him in the second round or maybe move a little closer in the second round didn't had to go to the first round 2 get him becasue after the trade that was before the draft everyone new they did it to get campbell and still no team tryed to move infront of you in the draft to get him.

That tells me nobody thought he was worth that high, hey even rodgers wen't untill the 24th spot 1 before campbell.

I'm not critizising the pick I do believe campbell its better than Rodgers (way overated) but I believe you pay to much for him.

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I think the Campbell pick, while I like the guy, was a bad decesion. I personally don't like a coach playing the role of GM no matter who it is. I think coaches need to concentrate on player motivation and gameplanning, not contracts and scouting. Anyhow, I think Gibbs is still stuck in the era where you can sit a young QB on the bench and let him learn. However, money in today's NFL rarely allows for that. Unfortunately, Brunell and Gibbs are butt-buddies so I don't know if he'll cut him after this year or not. It seems like I could suit up every Sunday as long as I go to church with the right people...

Campbell is in DC to be the quarterback of the future. Unfortunately, it comes at the price of running Ramsey out of town. I have a feeling the next couple years are for Ramsey to up his trade value for his next contract. I like Campbell as a QB. He's mobile enough for defenses to plan for it, but he has an okay arm with good touch. Ramsey still hasn't been given a legitimate shot in Gibbs system and I truley question if he will ever get that shot. I don't know why Gibbs hates him so, but the way he was handcuffed last year made me livid. I really hope that Gibbs opens up that playbook, which looked updated in pre-season game 1 (thank god!) and really let Ramsey use his natural skills instead of trying to hammer the circle peg into the square hole.
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I dont mind when people are critical of the Redskins. I dont mind when they are REALLY critical about the Redskins. But, when they are hypocritical about the Redskins, it really, really pisses me off.

Hopefully we don't find any of the hypocrites in here. We might have to ban them. By the way, who left the door open to let DaBoyz in? Note #1. to Daboyz: it's spelled c o w r o i d s or c o w g i r l z. Note # 2, can you please edit your posts prior to submittal, so we do not need the polish/coocamunga/english translator in order to read your post? It only furthers the idea that c o w r o i d s are i l l i t e r a t e (can't read or write!). Note # 3, I spelled your rightly assigned acronym slowly so you could understand it easier! Note #4, can you please add last names of c o w r o i d players, since we do not visit their open holed stadium (read toilet bowl) but once a year, and they, likewise only one time per year to our place?

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