If you are the 2nd-best athlete in the NFL, does it make it okay?

[heybigstar]

I was down visiting my friend a few weeks go at Miami, and i remember seeing "Sean Tayor not reporting to Redskins camp, instead he is working out at Miami U" on ESPN. Later that day, I play in a pickup game with ST, and I see the ball go way up in the air, should i try to steal it? As i was thinking this, a big blob comes out of nowhere and throws it(an alley-oop albeit) down harder than most NBA forwards i have ever seen dunk. It was Sean Taylor, a Safety trapped in a starting linebackers body.

When it comes down to it, all the commotion he causes, if he can get acquitted on charges, like almost every other athlete does. he will be on the field playing for us. And this guy is such a good athlete, #2 behind Michaei Vick would be his lowest ranking, that i feel he may not even need to practice (of course practicing would make him better, no doubt), and still be a big time contributor to our franchise. Warpath members, feel free to quote a sentence and state your disagreement with what I am saying, but remember this... in a nutshell, Sean Taylor is a super fast athleitc, intuitive linebacker playing safety thug who comes from a city where the football players are gods and the cops will treat them accordingly.

[manicd]

In answer to the subject - NO. It doesn't matter how talented he is. You can't be shooting at houses. Of course, we all hope it is not true. But if it is, and he is aquitted only on the grounds of being wealthy, an athlete, etc., would you still want him as a Skin? At this point, you have to question his emotional state. I almost feel bad for him. Maybe he has some mental problems.

[NM Redskin]

Seems like Taylors one step away from a "Ray Carruth".

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

It all depends on what exactly ST's involvement was in the shooting. If Sean was a mere witness, he's fine and I'm fine with him. If Sean was an accomplice, things won't be fine for him or me. If Sean was the shooter, he'd better invest in a chastity belt (for prison) and I'm going to flip.

[jermus22]

Yeah, I'm with you Ramseyfan. If he wasn't involved in the shooting (just a witness) I'm fine with him playing for us. But I don't want a criminal with the 'Skins and I'm sure Gibbs feels the same way. We don't need a clown screwing up our organization anymore than it already is. :frusty:

[That Guy]

last year ST got burned a bit because even though he's class A physically, he hasn't put the time into film study and mental prep that he really needs to, and until he does he won't be the kind of game changer that manning, TO, reed etc are...

[MTK]

There's no excusing his behavior (if it's true).

And eventually it will catch up with him. Athletes aren't immune from paying their debt to society. Jamal Lewis just did 4 months... if Taylor keeps heading down this road he's on, it won't be long until he's doing some hard time himself.

[dirtbag2112]

I can hear it now..."Man, gimmie your fruit cocktail!!!"

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

It all depends on what exactly ST's involvement was in the shooting. If Sean was a mere witness, he's fine and I'm fine with him. If Sean was an accomplice, things won't be fine for him or me. If Sean was the shooter, he'd better invest in a chastity belt (for prison) and I'm going to flip.

I sure doesn't sound like he is just a witness. I'll hold out hope, but I hope he realizes that if he were at OTA's he would not be in this mess. I hope his dad whips his butt for this baby crap.

[RedskinRat]

Fellas, come on now.....Who here hasn't, at some point, done something or been part of a bit of high spirited fun?

Why it seems like only last week me and a few of the boys stampeded a herd of cattle through the Vatican.

Damn, I hate the offseason....

[diehardskin2982]

this type of thing happens to most great atheletes who left a bad situation and excelled into riches because of their talent. They grow up with others around them who don't get a chance, or come from a worst off situation where all they know is violence. they may be best friends with the players, and when the player makes it big they end up being accussed of changing, or thinking they're better than others. So the atheletes are put in a place where they have to chose between the people they grew up with or their careers. That is a hard thing to do. It's all apart of growing up. It happened to vick, Ray Lewis, J. Lewis, and most players who let their friends use a car or property to the own. The player may end up in the wrong place at the wrong time like joey porter, and maybe taylor...

[monk81]

Originally Posted by jermus22

Yeah, I'm with you Ramseyfan. If he wasn't involved in the shooting (just a witness) I'm fine with him playing for us. But I don't want a criminal with the 'Skins and I'm sure Gibbs feels the same way. We don't need a clown screwing up our organization anymore than it already is. :frusty:

That kind of stuff is resevered for the Dallas Cowboys players, not the Redskins.............but even this year Parcells is taking a strong stand against having thugs and criminals on his roster...........Taylor needs to get his rear end over to Redskin Park and to stay out of trouble.......even if he was a witness, what were the circumstances, is he hanging around a bunch of gang bangers and gangsta's..........if so, he needs to get some new friends........

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by That Guy

last year ST got burned a bit because even though he's class A physically, he hasn't put the time into film study and mental prep that he really needs to, and until he does he won't be the kind of game changer that manning, TO, reed etc are...

Owens had 35 receptions for 520 yards and 4 TDs as a rookie.

Manning had a QB rating of 71.2 and 2 more INTs than TDs as a rookie.

Taylor had 1 more turnover than Reed had as a rookie.

Taylor might not be the quintessential game-changer yet, but neither were TO, Manning, or Reed as rookies. Give him time (that is, if a Judge doesn't give him time).

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by monk81

That kind of stuff is resevered for the Dallas Cowboys players, not the Redskins.............but even this year Parcells is taking a strong stand against having thugs and criminals on his roster...........Taylor needs to get his rear end over to Redskin Park and to stay out of trouble.......even if he was a witness, what were the circumstances, is he hanging around a bunch of gang bangers and gangsta's..........if so, he needs to get some new friends........

Taylor was dumb for hanging around people who were doing the shooting. But, we don't know if Taylor was actually accompanying them. We don't know that Taylor did anything wrong. So, I think it's a bit early to crucify him. If he was in fact hanging out with the people who did the shooting, then we can nail him to a cross. Until then, we're just speculating and can't make hard and fast judgments about the guy.

[monk81]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Taylor was dumb for hanging around people who were doing the shooting. But, we don't know if Taylor was actually accompanying them. We don't know that Taylor did anything wrong. So, I think it's a bit early to crucify him. If he was in fact hanging out with the people who did the shooting, then we can nail him to a cross. Until then, we're just speculating and can't make hard and fast judgments about the guy.

Ramsey fan.....that's why I posed it as a question, "what were the circumstances"......and is the cause of the problems who is he hanging around with IF SO then get some new friends...... but with this guys short career and track record it's hard to not see the hand writing on the wall.....
I'll hope for the best, and pray if it's for the worst.....as the old saying goes.......