Clinton Portis, great human being, contemplated murder after NFL Career

[SolidSnake84]

Clinton Portis contemplated murder after fortune lost

What a total, absolute, POS.

This guy, to me, has the rare distinction of i think symbolizing everything that has been right AND wrong with the redskins franchise.

Right in that we signed a healthy young player who was hungry and successful, and wrong when he kept skipping practices, not working out, but then expecting to play on Sunday, and demand a fat contract, much like his fat body that was 300 + pounds following his final season in the league.

I cannot discount what he did on the field for us but this guy is an absolute scumbag. I told you all years ago that to hear Portis talk on the television, it should have been obvious to all that he was not very intelligent. Because he was an idiot and made stupid decisions with his money, just like almost every other young athlete taken out of poverty by the NFL, he decided that murdering his manager / investor was the right thing to do.

Please tell me that he is not in the Redskins hall of fame, or anything like that. I am sorry. Rant over. Murdering, or even considering murdering innocent people is not okay.

[SFREDSKIN]

He lost his fortune, then instead of murdering someone he
should have killed himself.

[skinsfan69]

Was never the biggest fan of CP. He seemed to always throw not only his teammates, but also coaches under the bus. His nonsense was allowed to go on cause he had the owners ear. Oh well, at least he always played real hard. Can't deny CP that. When it was time to play he always came ready to play.

As far as his off the field issues, that's kind of his business. I'm sure if he had a chance to do things all over again he'd be much smarter with his money. With age comes wisdom. I can't even imagine the shit I would have done had I had millions in my pocket at 25. A lot of guys just aren't mature enough to handle that kind of money.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Was never the biggest fan of CP. He seemed to always throw not only his teammates, but also coaches under the bus. His nonsense was allowed to go on cause he had the owners ear. Oh well, at least he always played real hard. Can't deny CP that. When it was time to play he always came ready to play.

As far as his off the field issues, that's kind of his business. I'm sure if he had a chance to do things all over again he'd be much smarter with his money. With age comes wisdom. I can't even imagine the shit I would have done had I had millions in my pocket at 25. A lot of guys just aren't mature enough to handle that kind of money.

Yes, i agree with your post 100%. Portis was a hell of a player, i've never said he wasnt.

I remember the game that Jim Zorn put in Sean Alexander because Portis was basically stinking it up at that point in his career. He was caught on tv saying "get the F out of my face" to Jim Zorn. Big deal at the time. Larry Michael even talked about it on his show. I always felt at the time that if he would have done that to Joe Gibbs, the entire team would have given him a blanket party... I had no love for him after that incident

[mooby]

Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.

Hey Booby,

I meant he should have Killed himself instead of blaming other folks for his misfortunes and killing someone else. He is responsible for his own actions and I don't like you either, so go lick yourself boob!!

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Mooby, thank you for your post. I wholeheartedly agree.

[MTK]

Mooby nails it

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Hey Booby,

I meant he should have Killed himself instead of blaming other folks for his misfortunes and killing someone else. He is responsible for his own actions and I don't like you either, so go lick yourself boob!!

This would hurt, if I cared what you said. Unfortunately I don't. Bye Felicia.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mooby

This would hurt, if I cared what you said. Unfortunately I don't. Bye Felicia.

That's so Kardashian of you. Zzzzzzz

[Schneed10]

I was pretty turned off by this thread by the first couple of posts and planned on not participating but then Mooby saved it with some sanity.

Portis is an unintelligent person by any measure, and prone to making bad decisions based on emotional reactions. Is this really surprising to anybody, given what happened with his "investments"?

He got conned because he's an idiot. Should he kill himself or be written off as a deplorable human being? Seems ridiculous.

[Chico23231]

I think its extremely troubling that the Player union, NFL approved financial advisors out committing fraud like this...its bullshit. Portis should be able to sue both.

Man, it sucks to hear about this happening to an all-time Skin. Sure he is too blame as well but its just a sad situation. Im glad he showed restrain and did the right thing. Everyone will go through terrible situations in their life time to time...keeping your head up will be tough. The last several months Ive had problems with a girl...I get down, but continue to wake up everyday saying it will get better. When I get mad, instead of straight merc'd someone, I just go to the media basis thread here and take it out on Giantone.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

Well let's round up the opinions. One of you thinks he is a POS for even entertaining an idea, another one thinks he should have committed suicide. Me personally, I think both of those thoughts are as weak as Portis', and here's why.

SS, I know you're incapable of putting yourself in others' shoes, but I'll play this game anyways. Put yourself in Portis' shoes. After a life in which you parlayed your first two amazing seasons in the NFL into a trade to a team, a fanbase, and an ownership that loves you, alongside a big money deal which at the time was the largest ever for a running back in NFL history, a few years later your best friend is shot dead, life has changed as you know it (evidence being the happy-go-lucky spirit you once were is gone in favor of the sullen guy who's time in the NFL is coming to end, who's getting old in NFL years and has seen tragedy on a personal level the likes of which we will most likely never know). So you retire, and the next year (literally, one year later) you are broke, and your trusted financial advisors who ruined you are nowhere to be found. You went from being a semi-famous NFL player, with adoring fans, an owner who loves you, rags-to-riches, to a broke, retired, probably partially crippled from his playing days guy who nobody gives two shits about anymore who has also seen his friends and family die and his "trusted inner circle" disappear after the money dried up. What would you do? Keep in mind you're broke, and the guys who lost your money are never gonna see the inside of a prison for it. You know it's all downhill from here. You also grew up, like so many others, in a world where violence is justified daily as a means to an end. I know you, SS, don't know anything about the world (neither do I), so I say again. Put yourself in his shoes, what would you do? Not even do, what ideas would you entertain?

Then, you conveniently ignore the part where his mom talked him out of it, told him she doesn't care if she loses the purple house and the nice cars, that he needs to be a father to his kids and blah blah blah set the right example type shit and he snaps out of it. Starts turning his life around, declares bankruptcy, goes through the media laughingstock of his mom being one of his creditors, starts making money off personal appearances and media bs. But nah, instead of "wow, way for this broke black athlete to turn his life around after hitting rock bottom" it's "wow, Portis is a POS for harboring a bad idea."

Also, SFRedskin, I don't like you, and the concept that you think someone should kill themself after hitting rock bottom resonates with me as to the type of person you are. In the words of Chappelle "I hope all the bad things in life happen to you, and nobody else but you." Good day sir.

Also, one final thought. Make no mistake, I liked Portis as a player, and wish him luck as he finds himself in this world. With all this being said, I think he's a damn fool for wasting lots of money on houses, cars, women, trips around the world, and whatever else dumb purchases he made when he was rich. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be ripped off, the fact that he was investing money means he was trying to do well to set himself up for post-NFL life. I do think this whole experience has been quite the learning lesson for him, and I hope it all works out in the end, especially given the fact that it's most likely working out for those who took advantage of him. I'm also thankful for the fact that if he had followed through with his dumb plan, not only would it reflect poorly on him, it would also reflect poorly on the Redskins. And there's already plenty of that going on, so we don't need more.

Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?

Somehow you interpreted all this as "murder is OK". Setting aside your difficulties for which I sympathize, you're really not doing a good job of reading what is written.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Why do I have to get personally judged almost every time I post something? Like damn, we've all had tragedies in our lives. Most of us didn't resort to considering murder. Me? I had to find my uncle dead from suicide (gunshot), and later out of high school I was the passenger in a car being driven by my girlfriend. A drunk truck driver crossed the center line and hit us, killing her instantly. Even in the aftermath I never thought "I should go to his house and kill him, hopefully in front of his wife and children".

I seriously think anybody who would rationalize that considering murder is 100% okay in times of great stress is Effed up mentally. And if we are doing that on here, then we are F'd up. I'm done. I might come back to post when the Cousins situation plays itself out, but I'm honestly afraid of the "next" thing that people on here rationalize as ok. If murder is "ok", what comes next?

Hey man, I'm sorry for your losses, and I couldn't understand what it's like to go through that. With that being said, I'm asking you to look at the situation from his perspective. Everybody has different perspectives on the same things. If you think that's me saying "murder is ok" then idk what to tell you. Also, I don't believe Portis thinks murder is ok either, given the fact he didn't follow through with the idea.