Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions

monk81 · 05-26-2005, 07:50 PM

from the San Antonio Express-News columnist David Flores

THEISMANN'S OPINIONS ELICIT STRONG EMOTIONS-

Joe Theismann was in San Antonio on Tuesday in his role as the national spokesman for "EP in America", a campaign to educate men about enlarged prostrate. Regardless of how you feel about Theismann--and Lord knows, fans of the Texas Longhorns, and Dallas Cowboys never cared much for him, but the guy deserves some props for being refreshingly candid and insightful. Never bashful about speaking his mind, Theismann was always a great interview when he played quarterback for Notre Dame and the Washington Redskins.

Theismann, who has lived in Memphis for 14 years, has visited about a dozen cities in the past six months to promote "EP in America". Theismann 55, became involved in EP when he was diagnosed about a year ago.

Theismann signed with the Washington Redskins in 1974, but spent his first two seasns returning punts. He became a Redskin starter in 1978 and helped lead them to a Super Bowl victory over Miami in 1983. Washington beat the Cowboys 31-17 in the NFC title game at RFK Stadium to earn a berth in the Super Bowl. Theismann said his most vivid memory of that day is the sound of Redskin fans stomping their feet in the stands. "It was one of the greatest experiences of my career", he said. "You're playing in front of your fans and beating your arch-rival to go to the Super Bowl. I could feel the earth move under my feet."

Theismann expressed optimism that the Redskins will be better than they were last year. Washington went 6-10 under Gibb's first season back from retirement. "I went to their first minicamp workout last week and it was as spirited as any I've seen in a long time" Theismann said. "I didn't believe how rusty Joe was last season, but I think you're going to see a coaching staff that's a lot more comfortable". Theismann described the Dallas Cowboys as a team in transition that will improve steadily in the second half of the season. He said the same for Note Dame, which will be in its first season under coach Charlie Weis. "I think Charlies is going to do a good job. Having graduated from Notre Dame. He understands the culture of Notre Dame football."

University of Texas Longhorn fans never cared much for Theismann who quarterbacked Notre Dame in memorable Cotton Bowl games against Texas in 1970 and 1971. Led by QB James Street, UT rallied for a 21 - 17 victory over the Irish to cap an 11-0 season and clinch the National Championship. The next year Notre Dame beat the top ranked Longhorns 24-11, ending their 30 game winning streak and bid for back to back natinal titles. "I thought we had the best team the first year we played them". Theismann said, "But Jimmy Street completed a low pass on a fourth down play. "I told him a few years ago, when I saw him in Austin, that I didnt think he could throw."

BossHog · 05-26-2005, 10:10 PM

No can say he doesn't have the balls?!

monk81 · 05-26-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

No can say he doesn't have the balls?!

He always says whats on his mind.......kind of a gentle version of Howard Cosell

dblanch66 · 05-27-2005, 04:18 AM

In 1983 I went to Texas Stadium to see the Redskins play the 'boys in the famous game when the cry-baby cowboys tried to break up the fun bunch in the end zone after a score. Anyway, I stayed at the same hotel as the Redskins and they had a fan appreciation in the lobby. My favorite player back then was Charlie Brown #87. I saw him in the lobby and asked for his autograph. He turned his back on me and when I asked him again, he very sharply said, "Don't bother me, I'm talkin' to my people".
I was crushed. (I was 16 yrs old).. Theismann saw this exchange from accross the lobby and came up to me, introduced himself, introduced me to Dave Butz, Dexter Manley, Art Monk, Don Warren, Joe Jacoby and John Riggins. He arranged for a picture (which I still have) and they all signed it. Needless to say, Joey T. is a class act who cared about the fans and had a tremendous love of the game and will always be my favorite player. BTW...what ever happened to Charlie Brown??? hee hee hee.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 05-27-2005, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

In 1983 I went to Texas Stadium to see the Redskins play the 'boys in the famous game when the cry-baby cowboys tried to break up the fun bunch in the end zone after a score. Anyway, I stayed at the same hotel as the Redskins and they had a fan appreciation in the lobby. My favorite player back then was Charlie Brown #87. I saw him in the lobby and asked for his autograph. He turned his back on me and when I asked him again, he very sharply said, "Don't bother me, I'm talkin' to my people".
I was crushed. (I was 16 yrs old).. Theismann saw this exchange from accross the lobby and came up to me, introduced himself, introduced me to Dave Butz, Dexter Manley, Art Monk, Don Warren, Joe Jacoby and John Riggins. He arranged for a picture (which I still have) and they all signed it. Needless to say, Joey T. is a class act who cared about the fans and had a tremendous love of the game and will always be my favorite player. BTW...what ever happened to Charlie Brown??? hee hee hee.

Great story. Wow, Charlie Brown sounds like an arse. Sweet stuff though about the Theisman, Butz, Manley, Monk, Warren, Jacoby, Riggins picture. That would be enshrined in a gold frame if I had that bad boy.

Daseal · 05-27-2005, 08:29 AM

Maybe it's sad, but Theisman saying this makes me feel better. I must admit I'm not a big Theisman fan, but he speaks his mind.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-27-2005, 09:36 AM

Makes me feel better too. I like to hear how hard everyone is working at camp.

cpayne5 · 05-27-2005, 10:12 AM

This doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand, but does involve Theisman. A couple weeks ago, he was on the SportsBash with Erik Kuselias discussing the HOF induction process. They were talking about how its aweful that #81 hasn't been inducted and how Peter King is basically the gate keeper and is the one keeping him out of the hall. Kuselias then asked for a yes or no (whether Joe thinks they deserve to be in the HOF) for a list of names. Erik read them right after another and their was no discussion, just a yes or no answer. Darrell Green's name was read and Theisman initially said yes. Then he back tracked and said, 'oh, you said darrell green. no.'. I was kind of suprised by this. I admit that Darrell is right on the borderline, but was surprised to hear Theisman, who was a team mate during some of Darrell's best years, say no.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-27-2005, 10:19 AM

Yeah, that's a little shocking. I would say he SHOULD eventually make it into the hall.

MTK · 05-27-2005, 11:11 AM

I have a bad feeling about Green's chances at the Hall. I really think we could see King use the same "He's in the Hall of good" argument with Green.

But then again, Green was much more outgoing with the media and is very active in community work, so that could definitely help his cause.

celts32 · 05-27-2005, 11:54 AM

I love Joey T. My favorite player ever.

SkinsRock · 05-27-2005, 12:27 PM

Darrell Green not making the HoF is absolutely absurd. He was considered at least one of, if not the best CB in the game for years, went to 7 pro bowls (I think), and was always the consumate professional. He defined the term "shut-down corner" before Sanders even came along. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get voted in his first year eligible. I don't know what Joe T. was smoking before that interview.

I like what he said about the Skins chances this year. I think all of us were surprised at how "rusty" Gibbs was last year, but this year he will be on a mission to prove himself.

Schneed10 · 05-27-2005, 12:42 PM

One of Peter King's biggest knocks on Art Monk is that he was only voted to the Pro Bowl 3 times. King acknowledges that Monk was very good, but he points out that Monk was only considered, via his pro-bowl selections, a top 4 WR in the NFC in 3 years of his 15-year career, in '84, '85, and '86. He played for 9 seasons after that and never went to the Pro Bowl.

Darrell Green was voted to the Pro Bowl 7 times in his 20-year career, and those times spanned his entire career. He went in '84, '86, '87, '90, '91, '96, and '97. That shows he was considered a top flight CB at various points ALL THROUGHOUT his career. So King can't go making the same argument he made about Monk, because Green was voted to the Pro Bowl a lot more than Art.

I think Darrell will get in, though I'm going to drop a note in Peter King's mailbag to see if he'll address Green's chances in his next column. I suggest you guys do the same.

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skinsguy · 05-27-2005, 02:08 PM

Haha...maybe Joey T. realized that the 'Skins are going to get snuffed out of the HOF anyways so he changed his answer....lol

FRPLG · 05-27-2005, 04:18 PM

Green should be a first ballot HOF. Who else will be a first year eligible that year? My guess is he'll be the most deserving of the candiates. I would be stunned and truly disappointed if he didn't make the HOF. That would be a travesty. On top of being a top tier CB for basically his entire career (he was probably in the top three every year until 98 or so) he is responsible for one the greatest moments in football history. When he ran down Dorsett from accross the field on Monday night he made a name for himself. That type of exposure goes a long way in the HOF voting. He was also a decent interview (at least better than Monk) so they won't be able to argue that he wasn't media friendly.

05-26-2005, 07:50 PM	#1
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions from the San Antonio Express-News columnist David Flores THEISMANN'S OPINIONS ELICIT STRONG EMOTIONS- Joe Theismann was in San Antonio on Tuesday in his role as the national spokesman for "EP in America", a campaign to educate men about enlarged prostrate. Regardless of how you feel about Theismann--and Lord knows, fans of the Texas Longhorns, and Dallas Cowboys never cared much for him, but the guy deserves some props for being refreshingly candid and insightful. Never bashful about speaking his mind, Theismann was always a great interview when he played quarterback for Notre Dame and the Washington Redskins. Theismann, who has lived in Memphis for 14 years, has visited about a dozen cities in the past six months to promote "EP in America". Theismann 55, became involved in EP when he was diagnosed about a year ago. Theismann signed with the Washington Redskins in 1974, but spent his first two seasns returning punts. He became a Redskin starter in 1978 and helped lead them to a Super Bowl victory over Miami in 1983. Washington beat the Cowboys 31-17 in the NFC title game at RFK Stadium to earn a berth in the Super Bowl. Theismann said his most vivid memory of that day is the sound of Redskin fans stomping their feet in the stands. "It was one of the greatest experiences of my career", he said. "You're playing in front of your fans and beating your arch-rival to go to the Super Bowl. I could feel the earth move under my feet." Theismann expressed optimism that the Redskins will be better than they were last year. Washington went 6-10 under Gibb's first season back from retirement. "I went to their first minicamp workout last week and it was as spirited as any I've seen in a long time" Theismann said. "I didn't believe how rusty Joe was last season, but I think you're going to see a coaching staff that's a lot more comfortable". Theismann described the Dallas Cowboys as a team in transition that will improve steadily in the second half of the season. He said the same for Note Dame, which will be in its first season under coach Charlie Weis. "I think Charlies is going to do a good job. Having graduated from Notre Dame. He understands the culture of Notre Dame football." University of Texas Longhorn fans never cared much for Theismann who quarterbacked Notre Dame in memorable Cotton Bowl games against Texas in 1970 and 1971. Led by QB James Street, UT rallied for a 21 - 17 victory over the Irish to cap an 11-0 season and clinch the National Championship. The next year Notre Dame beat the top ranked Longhorns 24-11, ending their 30 game winning streak and bid for back to back natinal titles. "I thought we had the best team the first year we played them". Theismann said, "But Jimmy Street completed a low pass on a fourth down play. "I told him a few years ago, when I saw him in Austin, that I didnt think he could throw." __________________ "It's absolutely criminal, in my opinion, that Monk has yet to be enshrined (in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame)" Dan Arkush PFW

05-26-2005, 10:10 PM	#2
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions No can say he doesn't have the balls?!

05-27-2005, 04:18 AM	#4
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions In 1983 I went to Texas Stadium to see the Redskins play the 'boys in the famous game when the cry-baby cowboys tried to break up the fun bunch in the end zone after a score. Anyway, I stayed at the same hotel as the Redskins and they had a fan appreciation in the lobby. My favorite player back then was Charlie Brown #87. I saw him in the lobby and asked for his autograph. He turned his back on me and when I asked him again, he very sharply said, "Don't bother me, I'm talkin' to my people". I was crushed. (I was 16 yrs old).. Theismann saw this exchange from accross the lobby and came up to me, introduced himself, introduced me to Dave Butz, Dexter Manley, Art Monk, Don Warren, Joe Jacoby and John Riggins. He arranged for a picture (which I still have) and they all signed it. Needless to say, Joey T. is a class act who cared about the fans and had a tremendous love of the game and will always be my favorite player. BTW...what ever happened to Charlie Brown??? hee hee hee.

05-27-2005, 08:29 AM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Maybe it's sad, but Theisman saying this makes me feel better. I must admit I'm not a big Theisman fan, but he speaks his mind. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-27-2005, 09:36 AM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Makes me feel better too. I like to hear how hard everyone is working at camp. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-27-2005, 10:12 AM	#8
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions This doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand, but does involve Theisman. A couple weeks ago, he was on the SportsBash with Erik Kuselias discussing the HOF induction process. They were talking about how its aweful that #81 hasn't been inducted and how Peter King is basically the gate keeper and is the one keeping him out of the hall. Kuselias then asked for a yes or no (whether Joe thinks they deserve to be in the HOF) for a list of names. Erik read them right after another and their was no discussion, just a yes or no answer. Darrell Green's name was read and Theisman initially said yes. Then he back tracked and said, 'oh, you said darrell green. no.'. I was kind of suprised by this. I admit that Darrell is right on the borderline, but was surprised to hear Theisman, who was a team mate during some of Darrell's best years, say no. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

05-27-2005, 10:19 AM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Yeah, that's a little shocking. I would say he SHOULD eventually make it into the hall. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-27-2005, 11:11 AM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions I have a bad feeling about Green's chances at the Hall. I really think we could see King use the same "He's in the Hall of good" argument with Green. But then again, Green was much more outgoing with the media and is very active in community work, so that could definitely help his cause. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-27-2005, 11:54 AM	#11
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions I love Joey T. My favorite player ever.

05-27-2005, 12:27 PM	#12
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Darrell Green not making the HoF is absolutely absurd. He was considered at least one of, if not the best CB in the game for years, went to 7 pro bowls (I think), and was always the consumate professional. He defined the term "shut-down corner" before Sanders even came along. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get voted in his first year eligible. I don't know what Joe T. was smoking before that interview. I like what he said about the Skins chances this year. I think all of us were surprised at how "rusty" Gibbs was last year, but this year he will be on a mission to prove himself.

05-27-2005, 12:42 PM	#13
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions One of Peter King's biggest knocks on Art Monk is that he was only voted to the Pro Bowl 3 times. King acknowledges that Monk was very good, but he points out that Monk was only considered, via his pro-bowl selections, a top 4 WR in the NFC in 3 years of his 15-year career, in '84, '85, and '86. He played for 9 seasons after that and never went to the Pro Bowl. Darrell Green was voted to the Pro Bowl 7 times in his 20-year career, and those times spanned his entire career. He went in '84, '86, '87, '90, '91, '96, and '97. That shows he was considered a top flight CB at various points ALL THROUGHOUT his career. So King can't go making the same argument he made about Monk, because Green was voted to the Pro Bowl a lot more than Art. I think Darrell will get in, though I'm going to drop a note in Peter King's mailbag to see if he'll address Green's chances in his next column. I suggest you guys do the same. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../mmqbte/1.html

05-27-2005, 02:08 PM	#14
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Haha...maybe Joey T. realized that the 'Skins are going to get snuffed out of the HOF anyways so he changed his answer....lol __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

05-27-2005, 04:18 PM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Theismann Elicits Strong Emotions Green should be a first ballot HOF. Who else will be a first year eligible that year? My guess is he'll be the most deserving of the candiates. I would be stunned and truly disappointed if he didn't make the HOF. That would be a travesty. On top of being a top tier CB for basically his entire career (he was probably in the top three every year until 98 or so) he is responsible for one the greatest moments in football history. When he ran down Dorsett from accross the field on Monday night he made a name for himself. That type of exposure goes a long way in the HOF voting. He was also a decent interview (at least better than Monk) so they won't be able to argue that he wasn't media friendly.

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