Zone blocking

Redskins_P · 05-18-2005, 10:42 AM

For those of you who think that Gibbs is not making any changes on the offensive side of the ball, read this from the Washington Post article today. It looks like we'll be seeing more zone blocking/stretch plays to better suit Portis. And Gibbs is finally giving the shotgun formation a chance.

{On offense, the team continues to work on the shotgun, a formation Gibbs shunned in the past, and is implementing more stretch plays with zone blocking, better suited to Portis and akin to how he played in Denver after the Redskins tried to be a power running team at the start of last season.

"We were set on being a smash-mouth team," Portis said. "That's what we wanted to go out and do. Unfortunately, that didn't win us a lot of games, so we changed a few things up."}

What do you guys think?

Daseal · 05-18-2005, 11:21 AM

Good news, Redskins P. Now if we can only talk Gibbs into running a few slant routes he'll almost be in the 00's!

joethiesmanfan · 05-18-2005, 11:25 AM

lol hahahaha

SmootSmack · 05-18-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Good news, Redskins P. Now if we can only talk Gibbs into running a few slant routes he'll almost be in the 00's!

Or we can have him use Chad Morton to block Mike Strahan and then he can go coach some college boys down in South Carolina

It's amazing the lack of respect you show to Gibbs. But of course, he hasn't earned it in your mind, right?

Redskins_P · 05-18-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Good news, Redskins P. Now if we can only talk Gibbs into running a few slant routes he'll almost be in the 00's!

I apologize to all mods in advance.

Daseal, why are you such a cock? Everytime someone posts something postitive about the team, you go out of your way to spoil it. Cheer up man. Get laid. Do something.

MTK · 05-18-2005, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Or we can have him use Chad Morton to block Mike Strahan and then he can go coach some college boys down in South Carolina

It's amazing the lack of respect you show to Gibbs. But of course, he hasn't earned it in your mind, right?

LOL, ouch

aprius · 05-18-2005, 12:13 PM

We want changes in personnel not formations.
Our O-line is suffering.

Redskins_P · 05-18-2005, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aprius

We want changes in personnel not formations.
Our O-line is suffering.

It might be a little too late to be making changes in personnel. I think the coaching staff is happy with they got.

What is our O-line suffering from? The flu? Athletes foot? What do you mean?

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-18-2005, 12:37 PM

HAHA! The o-line is fine. Jansen, Rabach, Samuels are (borderline) Pro Bowlers.

memphisskin · 05-18-2005, 12:42 PM

The personnel is not going to change, and shouldn't. It's not like we're working with subpar talent, we've just gotten subpar results. Playing smashmouth with Portis is just misusing his talent. I think playing in that style will ultimately make Portis tougher, but I'd much rather see Portis running downhill than to see him barreling into the line trying to move the pile. Whatever it takes to win more games, I'm for that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-18-2005, 12:44 PM

Right, and barreling into the pile is why we got White and Nemo.

BossHog · 05-18-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aprius

We want changes in personnel not formations.
Our O-line is suffering.

Yeah. Where have you been Aprius? OL is straight. But hey, if you're a fan of roster turnover so be it.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-18-2005, 12:51 PM

Sounds kind of like a joke... Of COURSE we want changes in formations. Those old two WR sets just don't cut it anymore.

Schneed10 · 05-18-2005, 01:24 PM

I'm with TAFKAS, gotta show Gibbs some more respect. He started his first stint off 0-5 and won the Super Bowl the next year. He started this stint off rough, and now let's see where we go. No need to diss the coach without giving him enough of a chance. It takes time to purge the crappy attitude that has existed on this team for so long.

Daseal · 05-18-2005, 01:33 PM

Redskins P: I'm being a cock because we zone blocked last year, it worked, and we abandoned it. Gibbs still has to prove he can coach in this era, can he do it, I think so. He's a great coach, it just may be time to bring in an offensive mind because his offense isn't doing anything. I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs.

As far as personel, our WR position (and TE, but Royal is forming up nicely) is really the only position lacking. I feel our line is very solid with Samuels, Rabach, Jansen, and Thomas. Dockery is still young and has shown flashes of playing very good football. Here's a novel idea, let them play together for a while. Let's also remember that when there are 2-3 more guys in the box then we have linemen it doesn't matter if we have an all-star team blocking it'll still be hard to get 4/4.5 YPC.

This team needs to make leaps and bounds offensively to be a contender. I hope they can do it, but we need to give Ramsey the ball and trust him, which drafting Campbell didn't exactly send that message. I want to see us based around the run as much as anyone, but until our passing game is respected, which the Shotgun is a good start, our offense will continue to sputter.

Comparing Gibbs of the 80s to coaches of the modern era of football is apples and oranges. He did great things in a different NFL, and I think he can do the same. He's a good leader, guys follow him and work hard for him. The only problem I have with him is his playcalling, schemes, and clock management. He improved upon one of those over the season. If he can bring back an offense that dominated even half of what he had in his first era, we'll be a playoff team again, but I'm not going to turn an ignorant eye to the fact that I haven't seen anything to say we're going to make a big splash. Some people prefer to preach on the positive all day long, I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it instead of ignore it. Like with all coaches, he has three years in my mind.

Yes, I liked Spurrier, but do you remember all the times I said that he needed to update his staff with NFL people and change his schemes? Get a better RB and give him the ball 10-15 more times a game? I guess comments like that get forgotten.

Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here.

05-18-2005, 10:42 AM	#1
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Zone blocking For those of you who think that Gibbs is not making any changes on the offensive side of the ball, read this from the Washington Post article today. It looks like we'll be seeing more zone blocking/stretch plays to better suit Portis. And Gibbs is finally giving the shotgun formation a chance. {On offense, the team continues to work on the shotgun, a formation Gibbs shunned in the past, and is implementing more stretch plays with zone blocking, better suited to Portis and akin to how he played in Denver after the Redskins tried to be a power running team at the start of last season. "We were set on being a smash-mouth team," Portis said. "That's what we wanted to go out and do. Unfortunately, that didn't win us a lot of games, so we changed a few things up."} What do you guys think?

05-18-2005, 11:21 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Zone blocking Good news, Redskins P. Now if we can only talk Gibbs into running a few slant routes he'll almost be in the 00's! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-18-2005, 11:25 AM	#3
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Zone blocking lol hahahaha

05-18-2005, 12:13 PM	#7
aprius Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Call it Frisco....I am originally from DC Posts: 56	Re: Zone blocking We want changes in personnel not formations. Our O-line is suffering. __________________ Hail Redskins!

05-18-2005, 12:37 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Zone blocking HAHA! The o-line is fine. Jansen, Rabach, Samuels are (borderline) Pro Bowlers. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-18-2005, 12:42 PM	#10
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Zone blocking The personnel is not going to change, and shouldn't. It's not like we're working with subpar talent, we've just gotten subpar results. Playing smashmouth with Portis is just misusing his talent. I think playing in that style will ultimately make Portis tougher, but I'd much rather see Portis running downhill than to see him barreling into the line trying to move the pile. Whatever it takes to win more games, I'm for that.

05-18-2005, 12:44 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Zone blocking Right, and barreling into the pile is why we got White and Nemo. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-18-2005, 12:51 PM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Zone blocking Sounds kind of like a joke... Of COURSE we want changes in formations. Those old two WR sets just don't cut it anymore. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-18-2005, 01:24 PM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Zone blocking I'm with TAFKAS, gotta show Gibbs some more respect. He started his first stint off 0-5 and won the Super Bowl the next year. He started this stint off rough, and now let's see where we go. No need to diss the coach without giving him enough of a chance. It takes time to purge the crappy attitude that has existed on this team for so long.

05-18-2005, 01:33 PM	#15
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Zone blocking Redskins P: I'm being a cock because we zone blocked last year, it worked, and we abandoned it. Gibbs still has to prove he can coach in this era, can he do it, I think so. He's a great coach, it just may be time to bring in an offensive mind because his offense isn't doing anything. I'd also like to point to the fact that even with crazy schemes such as Chad Morton on Strahan as you suggested, still put up more PPG than Gibbs. As far as personel, our WR position (and TE, but Royal is forming up nicely) is really the only position lacking. I feel our line is very solid with Samuels, Rabach, Jansen, and Thomas. Dockery is still young and has shown flashes of playing very good football. Here's a novel idea, let them play together for a while. Let's also remember that when there are 2-3 more guys in the box then we have linemen it doesn't matter if we have an all-star team blocking it'll still be hard to get 4/4.5 YPC. This team needs to make leaps and bounds offensively to be a contender. I hope they can do it, but we need to give Ramsey the ball and trust him, which drafting Campbell didn't exactly send that message. I want to see us based around the run as much as anyone, but until our passing game is respected, which the Shotgun is a good start, our offense will continue to sputter. Comparing Gibbs of the 80s to coaches of the modern era of football is apples and oranges. He did great things in a different NFL, and I think he can do the same. He's a good leader, guys follow him and work hard for him. The only problem I have with him is his playcalling, schemes, and clock management. He improved upon one of those over the season. If he can bring back an offense that dominated even half of what he had in his first era, we'll be a playoff team again, but I'm not going to turn an ignorant eye to the fact that I haven't seen anything to say we're going to make a big splash. Some people prefer to preach on the positive all day long, I like to look at what's wrong with the team and deal with it instead of ignore it. Like with all coaches, he has three years in my mind. Yes, I liked Spurrier, but do you remember all the times I said that he needed to update his staff with NFL people and change his schemes? Get a better RB and give him the ball 10-15 more times a game? I guess comments like that get forgotten. Oh, by the way, Charley Casserly of the Texans said he's LOVE to have Spurrier as a coach after he left (got fired) here. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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