Marcus in the Middle?

SmootSmack · 05-14-2005, 11:57 AM

From Lenny P's column:

"Nice, modestly priced pickup by the Washington Redskins this week, when they signed former Chicago and Cleveland linebacker Warrick Holdman to what is believed to be a one-year contract. Over the last couple of seasons, the six-year veteran hasn't been the same player he was for the Bears early in his career. But Holdman is still just 29 and knows how to play the game, and Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will figure out a way to make good use of him. The acquisition of Holdman, who has played all three linebacker spots at various junctures of his career, almost certainly will make Mike Barrow expendable. The veteran middle linebacker missed the entire 2004, season and Washington probably will jettison him after June 1, when it needs salary cap space to sign its draft choices. Holdman might join the group of linebackers vying for the starting job in the middle, where the free-agent defection of Antonio Pierce to the New York Giants has created a big hole. But don't discount the possibility that the Redskins will move strong-side linebacker and 2004 Pro Bowler Marcus Washington into the middle, and use Holdman to fill his slot. When they were recruiting Washington last spring as a free agent, Redskins coaches floated the idea of playing him in the middle, and it could happen. Regardless who lines up where, the addition of Holdman gives Williams a lot of flexibility, assuming LaVar Arrington returns whole from the injuries that limited him to just four games a year ago."

Daseal · 05-14-2005, 11:59 AM

I don't like it. I really like him playing strong side!

MTK · 05-14-2005, 12:41 PM

Very interesting, he's definitely big enough to play in the middle.

Wow, did Lenny P just say something positive about the Skins?!

offiss · 05-14-2005, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Very interesting, he's definitely big enough to play in the middle.

Wow, did Lenny P just say something positive about the Skins?!

Not really, he's just listening to himself talk, no way we move Marcus inside for Holdman, just a bunch of nonesense, L Pasta has nothing substantial to write about I guess.

SmootSmack · 05-14-2005, 01:12 PM

MW was an absolute stud on the outside last year. Why mess with a good thing? I say keep him where he is

diehardskin2982 · 05-14-2005, 01:45 PM

I agree TAFKAS. Holdman will be another pass rusher brought in to give the opposing QB' s problems. I 'm glad he realized he messed up last year signing with the browns instead of us.

mooby · 05-14-2005, 02:38 PM

i hope they keep marcus on the outside. don't try and change what works perfectly. barrow will most likely be gone, and with arrington and washington on the outside, we will be better. plus we will have a lot of depth in the middle, with lemar marshall, warrick holdman, and others there.

JWsleep · 05-14-2005, 02:52 PM

In that recent interview Williams gave, he said that he wasn't going to move Washington or Lavar. So I doubt it. (I think the interview is on skins.com.) Still, I trust Williams to make the defense work, so he can do what he wants. One of the big things is that he confuses offenses, so moving around Washington might have that effect. But given that the MLB is the main playcaller, I very much doubt that Washington will be given that job. He kicked ass last year. Why mess him up?

RedskinsJunkie · 05-14-2005, 04:00 PM

I agree, I don't think Williams use MW in the middle... I really think we have some great options there in McCunes and Lemar Marshal... I also agree that Williams can do what he wants to do... He is a definsive genius and If he puts Ramsey in at Middle Linebacker you would have to agree with the move...

wolfeskins · 05-14-2005, 04:28 PM

washington needs to stay were he is for the simple fact that he does a great job covering tight ends or running backs. i don't want him tied up in the middle the whole game.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 05-14-2005, 05:45 PM

Williams discounted the idea of moving Lavar or Marcus to the middle in an interview on Redskins.com a month ago.

Gmanc711 · 05-14-2005, 06:46 PM

If it aint broke dont fix it. Keep Washington where he is now, I'd say. I think we are going to be just fine at MLB, we have a variety of guys who should push each other for the starting job.

Daseal · 05-14-2005, 07:00 PM

Exactly, Washington's cover skills are EXCELLENT. We have some really good atheletes in Taylor, Arrington, and Washington to cover.

RedskinsJunkie · 05-14-2005, 09:24 PM

I don't really like Lavars covering skills... I would rather him just lock on to the quarterback or the RB...

heybigstar · 05-15-2005, 03:03 AM

I would rather the season started tomorrow, i cant stop thinking about my skins.

05-14-2005, 11:57 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Marcus in the Middle? From Lenny P's column: "Nice, modestly priced pickup by the Washington Redskins this week, when they signed former Chicago and Cleveland linebacker Warrick Holdman to what is believed to be a one-year contract. Over the last couple of seasons, the six-year veteran hasn't been the same player he was for the Bears early in his career. But Holdman is still just 29 and knows how to play the game, and Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will figure out a way to make good use of him. The acquisition of Holdman, who has played all three linebacker spots at various junctures of his career, almost certainly will make Mike Barrow expendable. The veteran middle linebacker missed the entire 2004, season and Washington probably will jettison him after June 1, when it needs salary cap space to sign its draft choices. Holdman might join the group of linebackers vying for the starting job in the middle, where the free-agent defection of Antonio Pierce to the New York Giants has created a big hole. But don't discount the possibility that the Redskins will move strong-side linebacker and 2004 Pro Bowler Marcus Washington into the middle, and use Holdman to fill his slot. When they were recruiting Washington last spring as a free agent, Redskins coaches floated the idea of playing him in the middle, and it could happen. Regardless who lines up where, the addition of Holdman gives Williams a lot of flexibility, assuming LaVar Arrington returns whole from the injuries that limited him to just four games a year ago." __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-14-2005, 11:59 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Marcus in the Middle? I don't like it. I really like him playing strong side! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-14-2005, 12:41 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,686	Re: Marcus in the Middle? Very interesting, he's definitely big enough to play in the middle. Wow, did Lenny P just say something positive about the Skins?!

05-14-2005, 01:12 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Marcus in the Middle? MW was an absolute stud on the outside last year. Why mess with a good thing? I say keep him where he is __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-14-2005, 01:45 PM	#6
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Marcus in the Middle? I agree TAFKAS. Holdman will be another pass rusher brought in to give the opposing QB' s problems. I 'm glad he realized he messed up last year signing with the browns instead of us. __________________ That got ugly fast

05-14-2005, 02:38 PM	#7
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,502	Re: Marcus in the Middle? i hope they keep marcus on the outside. don't try and change what works perfectly. barrow will most likely be gone, and with arrington and washington on the outside, we will be better. plus we will have a lot of depth in the middle, with lemar marshall, warrick holdman, and others there. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-14-2005, 02:52 PM	#8
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Re: Marcus in the Middle? In that recent interview Williams gave, he said that he wasn't going to move Washington or Lavar. So I doubt it. (I think the interview is on skins.com.) Still, I trust Williams to make the defense work, so he can do what he wants. One of the big things is that he confuses offenses, so moving around Washington might have that effect. But given that the MLB is the main playcaller, I very much doubt that Washington will be given that job. He kicked ass last year. Why mess him up? __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-14-2005, 04:00 PM	#9
RedskinsJunkie Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 49 Posts: 128	Re: Marcus in the Middle? I agree, I don't think Williams use MW in the middle... I really think we have some great options there in McCunes and Lemar Marshal... I also agree that Williams can do what he wants to do... He is a definsive genius and If he puts Ramsey in at Middle Linebacker you would have to agree with the move... __________________ Jimoh--- OH NO!

05-14-2005, 04:28 PM	#10
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Marcus in the Middle? washington needs to stay were he is for the simple fact that he does a great job covering tight ends or running backs. i don't want him tied up in the middle the whole game.

05-14-2005, 05:45 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Marcus in the Middle? Williams discounted the idea of moving Lavar or Marcus to the middle in an interview on Redskins.com a month ago.

05-14-2005, 06:46 PM	#12
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Marcus in the Middle? If it aint broke dont fix it. Keep Washington where he is now, I'd say. I think we are going to be just fine at MLB, we have a variety of guys who should push each other for the starting job. __________________ #21

05-14-2005, 07:00 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Marcus in the Middle? Exactly, Washington's cover skills are EXCELLENT. We have some really good atheletes in Taylor, Arrington, and Washington to cover. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-14-2005, 09:24 PM	#14
RedskinsJunkie Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 49 Posts: 128	Re: Marcus in the Middle? I don't really like Lavars covering skills... I would rather him just lock on to the quarterback or the RB... __________________ Jimoh--- OH NO!

05-15-2005, 03:03 AM	#15
heybigstar Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 375	Re: Marcus in the Middle? I would rather the season started tomorrow, i cant stop thinking about my skins. __________________ Hail to the Redskins.

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