Lenny P reporting Moss signed.

Daseal · 05-04-2005, 06:30 PM

6 years, 30 mil, 11m signing bonus. Look for it on ESPN under Lenny in a few hours.

At least it's his rumor. Take it for what you will.

jbcjr14 · 05-04-2005, 06:34 PM

Its probably true, that's alot of change for him though....damn, another overpaid receiver.

mooby · 05-04-2005, 06:34 PM

as i said earlier, this is a stupid move by the skins. this is only gonna make sean taylor increasingly confident that his demands will be met. santana moss hasn't even played a down for us yet.

joecrisp · 05-04-2005, 06:43 PM

Sorry for the duplicate post:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=2053347

Moss' six-year extension worth $31 millionBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Speedy wide receiver Santana Moss, the veteran on whom the Washington Redskins are counting to add some big-play dimension to their anemic passing attack of last season on Wednesday reached a contract extension with the club, ESPN.com has learned.

Moss was officially acquired from the New York Jets on March 9 in a swap of unhappy wide receivers, with Laveranues Coles going to the Jets, the team that originally brought him into the league. The trade had been discussed by the Redskins and Jets for two weeks before it was finally consummated, and then was delayed several more days because the two players had to pass physical examinations.

The six-year extension, negotiated by agent Drew Rosenhaus and scheduled to be signed on Thursday, is worth $31 million. But the sixth-year of the deal will void if Moss merely reaches minimum playing time levels, and so the five-year value of the add-on is $26.55 million. The deal includes $11 million in combined signing and option bonuses, paid out over two years.

The four-year veteran was entering the final season of his original NFL contract and he was scheduled to have a base salary of $540,000 for the 2005 season.

Rosenhaus and Redskins officials have been working on the extension since the trade was completed. But with the draft, and Washington having to clear salary cap space to finish the deal, it took more than a month to complete.

There was never any doubt that, once the trade was consummated, the two sides would strike an extension agreement, just as Coles did with the Jets. While negotiations dragged on, though, Moss stayed away from the Redskins' offseason training program. He will report on Wednesday evening to the team and begin participating in the workouts as early as Thursday, Rosenhaus confirmed.

"Everyone worked hard, first of all, to get the trade finished, and then to complete this (extension)," Rosenhaus said before boarding a flight back to his Miami base. "Santana is excited to be with the Redskins and, obviously, he is a player that Washington wanted in its offense. Hopefully, this contract with spark some movement with some other wide receivers in the league."

Rosenhaus represents several other prominent receivers, such as Philadelphia's Terrell Owens and Javon Walker of Green Bay, who are seeking to upgrade their contracts.

Moss, 25, was the Jets' first-round choice in the 2001 draft. The former University of Miami star, who possesses great quickness, has 151 catches for 2,416 yards and 19 touchdowns in 51 appearances.

He has been hampered at times by hamstring and knee injuries but, when healthy, is an explosive performer, as reflected in a career average of 16.0 yards per catch and one touchdown every 7.9 receptions. Of his 151 catches, 106 have resulted in first downs or touchdowns. Moss' best season came in 2003, when he posted 74 receptions for 1,105 yards and 10 scores.

The four-year veteran is also a playmaker on special teams and has averaged 11.9 yards and scored two touchdowns on 88 career punt returns.

Certainly the Washington passing game, statistically the NFL's fourth-least productive in 2004, can use a receiver of Moss' potential. The Redskins, stymied in part by an archaic design that featured a lot of "maximum" protections and only two receivers in the pattern, averaged a paltry 5.36 yards per pass play last season, and 10.96 yards per completion. Both those numbers were second-lowest in the league.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

terps and skins · 05-04-2005, 06:54 PM

yeah, just heard tim brant report it.

JWsleep · 05-04-2005, 07:06 PM

It's up on skins.com. Guess they're trying to beat pasta to the punch! (Who is the mole????

)

Be sure to check out the DREW ROSENHAUS video. He keeps saying over and over again what a great owner snyder is, yatta-yatta. I bet he is Drew! Just paid for a new extension on the mansion, I suppose. When agents love you, you gotta worry... BTW, he said that Moss will be at workouts this week, so that's cool. Also, he said Taylor's situation is not "quite worked out" but he hopes to have it done soon. What, exactly, is there to work out, Drew? We promise to re-sign Taylor when his contract is up, in 5 years or so???

http://www.redskins.com/

PSUSkinsFan21 · 05-04-2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWsleep

He keeps saying over and over again what a great owner snyder is, yatta-yatta. .... When agents love you, you gotta worry...

Truer words have never been spoken JW.

Hijinx · 05-04-2005, 07:11 PM

Agreed.....Ever wonder why the Skins are top to the dead money list every year?

Daseal · 05-04-2005, 07:12 PM

They're not, Hijinx. Find me a team in the league that has been able to manage their cap better than us. The patriots are the only team you can argue, in my opinion, and since they're winning people play for cheaper to play for them.

TN is much worse off than we are.

dblanch66 · 05-04-2005, 07:19 PM

I agree with Daseal. We get unwarranted critisism here. We're not great at cap management (Deon, George, Brunell, etc) but we're certainly not the worst. I'm just hoping the Moss signing and subsequent participation in voluntary workouts starting Thursday will set a fire under Sean Taylor's ass and get him to DC.

dblanch66 · 05-04-2005, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

6 years, 30 mil, 11m signing bonus. Look for it on ESPN under Lenny in a few hours.

At least it's his rumor. Take it for what you will.

I hate Lenny Pasta. Am I alone?

Grayacre · 05-04-2005, 07:34 PM

I'm glad the guy may finally grace the team with his presence. Still, why is it that the team discovers the phrase fiscal responsibility when a quality class-act like Pierce wants more money, but then overpays a solid yet unremarkable wide receiver w/the makings of an attitude problem? Baffling ...

cpayne5 · 05-04-2005, 07:37 PM

No, you're not. I don't like his writings, but his radio interviews are OK. Atleast the times I've listened to him he hasn't been as negative towards the Skins as he is in print.

Gmanc711 · 05-04-2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

They're not, Hijinx. Find me a team in the league that has been able to manage their cap better than us. The patriots are the only team you can argue, in my opinion, and since they're winning people play for cheaper to play for them.

TN is much worse off than we are.

I agree 110%. We were supposed to have been in Cap hell since 2002, and each year, we seem to be able to operate just fine. Once again, I'm not saying I agree with the money shelled out for him, but I agree with you about managing the cap.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 05-04-2005, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Find me a team in the league that has been able to manage their cap better than us. The patriots are the only team you can argue, in my opinion, and since they're winning people play for cheaper to play for them.

Eagles.
They haven't been within a mile of their cap for a decade and they have made it to at least the NFC Championship game for four straight years.

05-04-2005, 06:30 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Lenny P reporting Moss signed. 6 years, 30 mil, 11m signing bonus. Look for it on ESPN under Lenny in a few hours. At least it's his rumor. Take it for what you will. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-04-2005, 06:34 PM	#2
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. Its probably true, that's alot of change for him though....damn, another overpaid receiver. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

05-04-2005, 06:34 PM	#3
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. as i said earlier, this is a stupid move by the skins. this is only gonna make sean taylor increasingly confident that his demands will be met. santana moss hasn't even played a down for us yet. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-04-2005, 06:43 PM	#4
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. Sorry for the duplicate post: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=2053347 Moss' six-year extension worth $31 millionBy Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com Speedy wide receiver Santana Moss, the veteran on whom the Washington Redskins are counting to add some big-play dimension to their anemic passing attack of last season on Wednesday reached a contract extension with the club, ESPN.com has learned. Moss was officially acquired from the New York Jets on March 9 in a swap of unhappy wide receivers, with Laveranues Coles going to the Jets, the team that originally brought him into the league. The trade had been discussed by the Redskins and Jets for two weeks before it was finally consummated, and then was delayed several more days because the two players had to pass physical examinations. The six-year extension, negotiated by agent Drew Rosenhaus and scheduled to be signed on Thursday, is worth $31 million. But the sixth-year of the deal will void if Moss merely reaches minimum playing time levels, and so the five-year value of the add-on is $26.55 million. The deal includes $11 million in combined signing and option bonuses, paid out over two years. The four-year veteran was entering the final season of his original NFL contract and he was scheduled to have a base salary of $540,000 for the 2005 season. Rosenhaus and Redskins officials have been working on the extension since the trade was completed. But with the draft, and Washington having to clear salary cap space to finish the deal, it took more than a month to complete. There was never any doubt that, once the trade was consummated, the two sides would strike an extension agreement, just as Coles did with the Jets. While negotiations dragged on, though, Moss stayed away from the Redskins' offseason training program. He will report on Wednesday evening to the team and begin participating in the workouts as early as Thursday, Rosenhaus confirmed. "Everyone worked hard, first of all, to get the trade finished, and then to complete this (extension)," Rosenhaus said before boarding a flight back to his Miami base. "Santana is excited to be with the Redskins and, obviously, he is a player that Washington wanted in its offense. Hopefully, this contract with spark some movement with some other wide receivers in the league." Rosenhaus represents several other prominent receivers, such as Philadelphia's Terrell Owens and Javon Walker of Green Bay, who are seeking to upgrade their contracts. Moss, 25, was the Jets' first-round choice in the 2001 draft. The former University of Miami star, who possesses great quickness, has 151 catches for 2,416 yards and 19 touchdowns in 51 appearances. He has been hampered at times by hamstring and knee injuries but, when healthy, is an explosive performer, as reflected in a career average of 16.0 yards per catch and one touchdown every 7.9 receptions. Of his 151 catches, 106 have resulted in first downs or touchdowns. Moss' best season came in 2003, when he posted 74 receptions for 1,105 yards and 10 scores. The four-year veteran is also a playmaker on special teams and has averaged 11.9 yards and scored two touchdowns on 88 career punt returns. Certainly the Washington passing game, statistically the NFL's fourth-least productive in 2004, can use a receiver of Moss' potential. The Redskins, stymied in part by an archaic design that featured a lot of "maximum" protections and only two receivers in the pattern, averaged a paltry 5.36 yards per pass play last season, and 10.96 yards per completion. Both those numbers were second-lowest in the league. Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

05-04-2005, 06:54 PM	#5
terps and skins Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 29	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. yeah, just heard tim brant report it.

05-04-2005, 07:06 PM	#6
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,717	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. It's up on skins.com. Guess they're trying to beat pasta to the punch! (Who is the mole???? ) Be sure to check out the DREW ROSENHAUS video. He keeps saying over and over again what a great owner snyder is, yatta-yatta. I bet he is Drew! Just paid for a new extension on the mansion, I suppose. When agents love you, you gotta worry... BTW, he said that Moss will be at workouts this week, so that's cool. Also, he said Taylor's situation is not "quite worked out" but he hopes to have it done soon. What, exactly, is there to work out, Drew? We promise to re-sign Taylor when his contract is up, in 5 years or so??? http://www.redskins.com/ __________________ Hail from Houston!

05-04-2005, 07:11 PM	#8
Hijinx The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 49 Posts: 1,961	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. Agreed.....Ever wonder why the Skins are top to the dead money list every year? __________________ This is my signature, there are many like it, but this one is mine.

05-04-2005, 07:12 PM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. They're not, Hijinx. Find me a team in the league that has been able to manage their cap better than us. The patriots are the only team you can argue, in my opinion, and since they're winning people play for cheaper to play for them. TN is much worse off than we are. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-04-2005, 07:19 PM	#10
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 58 Posts: 1,176	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. I agree with Daseal. We get unwarranted critisism here. We're not great at cap management (Deon, George, Brunell, etc) but we're certainly not the worst. I'm just hoping the Moss signing and subsequent participation in voluntary workouts starting Thursday will set a fire under Sean Taylor's ass and get him to DC.

05-04-2005, 07:34 PM	#12
Grayacre Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington Posts: 35	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. I'm glad the guy may finally grace the team with his presence. Still, why is it that the team discovers the phrase fiscal responsibility when a quality class-act like Pierce wants more money, but then overpays a solid yet unremarkable wide receiver w/the makings of an attitude problem? Baffling ...

05-04-2005, 07:37 PM	#13
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Lenny P reporting Moss signed. No, you're not. I don't like his writings, but his radio interviews are OK. Atleast the times I've listened to him he hasn't been as negative towards the Skins as he is in print. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

Lenny P reporting Moss signed.

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