(Merged) June 1st Cuts.

Daseal · 04-24-2005, 08:09 PM

Think we're expecting to grab a WR off the waiver wire (any idea of some who may be cut?) or do you think we're set with our receiving corps? While I'm high on jacobs and McCants, I really don't like the rest of the receivers. Especially the contract we're going to give Moss.

drew54 · 04-24-2005, 08:13 PM

What about our June 1st cuts. Could we be looking at dropping or trading some guys like Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwrite, and Mike Barrow?

I wouldnt mind seeing us trying to trade them away for any kind of draft pick. Anything is better than nothing. Even 7th rounders.

BrudLee · 04-24-2005, 08:15 PM

I look for the June 1st cuts to include Mark Brunell. Despite claims to the contrary, he doesn't have a place in the organization after the drafting of Jason Campbell.

drew54 · 04-24-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

I look for the June 1st cuts to include Mark Brunell. Despite claims to the contrary, he doesn't have a place in the organization after the drafting of Jason Campbell.

The way that they are already looking at trading Tim Hasselbeck there is no way they keep him over Brunell. Gibbs loves his vets, and even though this guy stunk it up for us last year, I think he hangs on for one more season before he gets the chop.

BrudLee · 04-24-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by drew54

The way that they are already looking at trading Tim Hasselbeck there is no way they keep him over Brunell. Gibbs loves his vets, and even though this guy stunk it up for us last year, I think he hangs on for one more season before he gets the chop.

There will be too much money invested at the position with Brunell and two first rounders. There will also be enough turmoil with two first-rounders on the team.

Gibbs does love veterans, but Ramsey has nearly 30 starts now. He isn't a rookie, and he doesn't need to be coddled. The Campbell selection proves that Gibbs isn't afraid to push his QB's.

go18n20 · 04-24-2005, 08:57 PM

I think we keep Gardner. I think that is why we DID NOT draft a receiver, even in the later rounds! We are going to have A LOT of money tied up in quarterbacks which will hamper our signing ANY June 1 cuts, unless Brunell reworks his contract AGAIN. We can't cut him, although I wish we could, because the cap hit, coupled with Coles' would be way TOO GREAT. Also, look for Detroit to cut Rogers at WR. Too much money for three first round receivers.

NFLNetwork · 04-25-2005, 01:05 AM

LOL...Cut Charles Rogers. LMAO. The Lions could get a 1st round pick for rogers if they put him on the blocks...NO QUESTION!! Wow....are you related to Danny??

Daseal · 04-25-2005, 01:10 AM

They'd certainly trade Rogers. If they cut him, I'd send Redskisn one that second. Though he's had injury problems he's an amazing receiver.

I don't see either happening, but it would be nice!

skinsguy · 04-25-2005, 01:32 AM

I will be surprised if they cut Brunell, I don't expect that to happen. Did I read somewhere where the Skins' resigned Cartwright? I would have thought for sure he would be gone. I think for McCants, this year is do or die. If he can't prove to be a difference maker...maybe not even in the pre-season...he'll probably be gone. I believe we might keep Jacobs for one more year, but this year it's do or die for him. We'll keep Thrash for special teams reason and I think he's a solid WR off the bench.

I'm interested to see what happens with Gardner. I don't see us keeping him, but then again, ya never know.

JoeRedskin · 04-25-2005, 01:53 AM

The Skins are not gonna cut Brunnell. Doesn't anyone remember the discussions about his cap hit?? To cut him before June 1st '06 is completely destructive to our cap. If the Skins cut him, they are going to have to cut half the damn roster to get back under the cap.

offiss · 04-25-2005, 03:51 AM

Az Hakim will probably be cut, but I would think he would winde up back with the Rams, that is where he had all his success, a perfect example of a talented player doing nothing if he's in the wrong situation.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 04-25-2005, 05:37 AM

morton,barrow,sellers,hasselback, are all gone.maybe even the invisible man mccants.

Redskins8588 · 04-25-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

Az Hakim will probably be cut, but I would think he would winde up back with the Rams, that is where he had all his success, a perfect example of a talented player doing nothing if he's in the wrong situation.

Not to start anything, but you say that Az Hakim is a talented player doing nothing because he is in the wrong situation. Then you come out and lable Portis as a system back. It seems by the tone of your posts you kinda of sympathize with Az Hakim who clearly was "system WR", but you have like a "I hate Portis" tone when you lable him as a system back.

Atleast Portis is talented enough to still be a factor on gameday when he is in the so called "wrong situation". Where as with Az Hakim, what has he done since he left the Rams?

drew54 · 04-25-2005, 10:00 AM

I think Sellers stays. He is a special team stand out, and Gibbs knows we need help there.

FRPLG · 04-25-2005, 10:24 AM

I think the main target for a cut /retire is Barrow. If his knee doesn't hold up, and why would we think it would it would, then he has to be gone. I'd say there's a better than 50% chance he retires. Hasslebeck may end up getting cut since why would anyone trade for him when the Skins are clearly going to have to cut him barring an injury that allows them to IR him. I think Rock is gone. As well as McCants.
You have to look at the makeup now and guys like Rock and McCants have no place on the team. Right now Sellers plays in front of Cartwright and the new guy is certainly going to make the team before him. That leaves a potential third FB spot(do they even keep 3?) for Rock or the other new guy. The other new guy is cheaper and it will cost no cap space to cut Rock. He's gone. McCants is in the same boat for sure now that Gardner is staying(presumably). The WRs are Patten, Moss, Thrash, Jacobs, Gardner. There is certainly a chance they grab someone of the waiver wire post June 1. There's no way they keep more than 6 WRs and whose spot does he take? He's not getting a spot in front any of the first four I listed and there is no way the Skins will simply cut Gardners if they wouldn't trade him because they didn't get enough value. That would be more than retarded. McCants for this team. Those are probably the biggest name cuts but we'll see as always.

04-24-2005, 08:09 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	June 1st Cuts. Think we're expecting to grab a WR off the waiver wire (any idea of some who may be cut?) or do you think we're set with our receiving corps? While I'm high on jacobs and McCants, I really don't like the rest of the receivers. Especially the contract we're going to give Moss. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-24-2005, 08:13 PM	#2
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: June 1st Cuts. What about our June 1st cuts. Could we be looking at dropping or trading some guys like Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwrite, and Mike Barrow? I wouldnt mind seeing us trying to trade them away for any kind of draft pick. Anything is better than nothing. Even 7th rounders.

04-24-2005, 08:15 PM	#3
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: June 1st Cuts. I look for the June 1st cuts to include Mark Brunell. Despite claims to the contrary, he doesn't have a place in the organization after the drafting of Jason Campbell. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

04-24-2005, 08:57 PM	#6
go18n20 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10	Re: June 1st Cuts. I think we keep Gardner. I think that is why we DID NOT draft a receiver, even in the later rounds! We are going to have A LOT of money tied up in quarterbacks which will hamper our signing ANY June 1 cuts, unless Brunell reworks his contract AGAIN. We can't cut him, although I wish we could, because the cap hit, coupled with Coles' would be way TOO GREAT. Also, look for Detroit to cut Rogers at WR. Too much money for three first round receivers.

04-25-2005, 01:05 AM	#7
NFLNetwork No new threads for you Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 122	Re: June 1st Cuts. LOL...Cut Charles Rogers. LMAO. The Lions could get a 1st round pick for rogers if they put him on the blocks...NO QUESTION!! Wow....are you related to Danny??

04-25-2005, 01:10 AM	#8
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: June 1st Cuts. They'd certainly trade Rogers. If they cut him, I'd send Redskisn one that second. Though he's had injury problems he's an amazing receiver. I don't see either happening, but it would be nice! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

04-25-2005, 01:32 AM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: June 1st Cuts. I will be surprised if they cut Brunell, I don't expect that to happen. Did I read somewhere where the Skins' resigned Cartwright? I would have thought for sure he would be gone. I think for McCants, this year is do or die. If he can't prove to be a difference maker...maybe not even in the pre-season...he'll probably be gone. I believe we might keep Jacobs for one more year, but this year it's do or die for him. We'll keep Thrash for special teams reason and I think he's a solid WR off the bench. I'm interested to see what happens with Gardner. I don't see us keeping him, but then again, ya never know. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

04-25-2005, 01:53 AM	#10
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: June 1st Cuts. The Skins are not gonna cut Brunnell. Doesn't anyone remember the discussions about his cap hit?? To cut him before June 1st '06 is completely destructive to our cap. If the Skins cut him, they are going to have to cut half the damn roster to get back under the cap.

04-25-2005, 03:51 AM	#11
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: June 1st Cuts. Az Hakim will probably be cut, but I would think he would winde up back with the Rams, that is where he had all his success, a perfect example of a talented player doing nothing if he's in the wrong situation.

04-25-2005, 05:37 AM	#12
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	Re: June 1st Cuts. morton,barrow,sellers,hasselback, are all gone.maybe even the invisible man mccants. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

04-25-2005, 10:00 AM	#14
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: June 1st Cuts. I think Sellers stays. He is a special team stand out, and Gibbs knows we need help there.

04-25-2005, 10:24 AM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: June 1st Cuts. I think the main target for a cut /retire is Barrow. If his knee doesn't hold up, and why would we think it would it would, then he has to be gone. I'd say there's a better than 50% chance he retires. Hasslebeck may end up getting cut since why would anyone trade for him when the Skins are clearly going to have to cut him barring an injury that allows them to IR him. I think Rock is gone. As well as McCants. You have to look at the makeup now and guys like Rock and McCants have no place on the team. Right now Sellers plays in front of Cartwright and the new guy is certainly going to make the team before him. That leaves a potential third FB spot(do they even keep 3?) for Rock or the other new guy. The other new guy is cheaper and it will cost no cap space to cut Rock. He's gone. McCants is in the same boat for sure now that Gardner is staying(presumably). The WRs are Patten, Moss, Thrash, Jacobs, Gardner. There is certainly a chance they grab someone of the waiver wire post June 1. There's no way they keep more than 6 WRs and whose spot does he take? He's not getting a spot in front any of the first four I listed and there is no way the Skins will simply cut Gardners if they wouldn't trade him because they didn't get enough value. That would be more than retarded. McCants for this team. Those are probably the biggest name cuts but we'll see as always.

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