Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Locker Room Main Forum


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-15-2014, 05:00 PM   #1
Paintrain
Pro Bowl
 
Paintrain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
Posts: 5,006
Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

By now we know that RGIII is out for several weeks with that dislocated ankle suffered against the Jags. With ligament damage unclear, it's likely between 4-8 weeks before we see him again..

Personally, I wouldn't even give a thought to bringing him back before the bye week, meaning at the high end of the 8 week recovery scale.

In the meantime, what are your expectations of Kirk Cousins as our starter?

Does he build on the Jacksonville game and take the reins enough to make it tough for Gruden to go back to Griffin?

Does he do some good, some bad and leave enough question that they should go back to the 'starter' when RG is healthy?

Does he repeat his 2013 performance when given a chance to start and cement his place as a backup?
__________________
Paintrain's Redskins Fandom
1981-2014

I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life!

Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier
Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman
Paintrain is offline  

Advertisements
Old 09-15-2014, 05:05 PM   #2
HailGreen28
Playmaker
 
HailGreen28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,754
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Sit Griffin until he gets his footwork right. To my untrained eyes, looked like he regressed last season due to injury.

Enough with the rushing things and limping and throwing off the back foot. I know these guys play hurt, but Griffin hasn't been the same since the Seattle playoff game 2012-2013 season.
HailGreen28 is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:12 PM   #3
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Cousins will play well enough to get us the trade value for him next offseason we were looking for this offseason
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:12 PM   #4
Dirtbag59
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 39
Posts: 14,750
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Everything I've seen up until now suggest a 6-8 week recovery on a dislocated ankle.

Quote:
In general, it takes about 6 to 8 weeks for the bones to unite. However, every case is unique, as no two fractures are exactly alike.
Ankle Dislocation Rehab Protocol
Quote:
- Patient will be walking with crutches and touchdown (toe-touch) weight bearing on the surgical leg for 4 - 6 weeks post-op.
- Patient will be in a removable boot for 6 weeks or longer, pending x-rays.
Quote:
Prognosis of a dislocated ankle
Many patients with a dislocated ankle heal well with appropriate physiotherapy and return to normal function. This may take weeks to months to achieve an optimal outcome. However, due to the severity of injury and widespread connective tissue damage associated with this condition, patients may experience long term effects. The most common long term effect of a dislocated ankle is an increased likelihood of future dislocation or ankle sprain with relatively minor trauma. In cases of recurrent ankle dislocation, surgical intervention may be indicated to increase the ankle's stability. This is usually followed by an extensive rehabilitation program lasting many months.
Then of course the more specific news related to our esteemed QB.

RG3's dislocated ankle could cost him 6-8 wks
Quote:
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Robert Griffin III's ankle dislocation could still shelve him 6-8 weeks despite the fact that Monday's MRI revealed no fracture.
Initial reports had the timetable at 4-5 weeks. Griffin's absence will simply depend on how quickly he recovers. Whether he regains his starting job upon return is entirely unclear, as well. Fantasy owners can freely drop Griffin in 10- and 12-team leagues. He was playing poorly before the injury, and is now in danger of losing the first-team quarterback job outright to Kirk Cousins.
....maybe I should have started with that last part...nah, to much sense that would make.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:16 PM   #5
Lotus
Fire Bruce NOW
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 11,434
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

"Does he do some good, some bad and leave enough question that they should go back to the 'starter' when RG is healthy?"

My choice from those listed above. IMO Cousins will give us fine outings like yesterday. He'll also give us three interception nightmares.

The good thing is that the rest of the team may be good enough so that we are still in it.
__________________
Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny
Lotus is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:19 PM   #6
Fiversons
Special Teams
 
Fiversons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 133
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

I hate to say it, but for the first time since drafting both of them, I think we will have a legitimate QB controversy in 8 weeks or whenever III returns... Assuming Captain Kirk plays well, which I expect him to do...
Fiversons is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:24 PM   #7
JoeRedskin
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 61
Posts: 10,401
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Cousins will play well enough to get us the trade value for him next offseason we were looking for this offseason
I would be ecstatic if KC plays well enough htat we could get:

- a "Carson Palmer to Oakland Deal." (1st and 2nd round picks)
- a "Matt Shaub Deal" for KC. (flip 1st's and two 2nd's)
- a "Kevin Kolb Deal for KC. (2nd and starter)

For now, however, I just want to keep winning.
__________________
Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.
JoeRedskin is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:25 PM   #8
Fiversons
Special Teams
 
Fiversons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 133
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Cousins will play well enough to get us the trade value for him next offseason we were looking for this offseason
You would be willing to trade him?
Fiversons is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:26 PM   #9
SFREDSKIN
Living Legend
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 15,164
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

I don't expect RGIII back this year, after I saw his face while being carted out, the man was in so much pain he was crying. I'm being realistic, I hope I'm wrong.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:26 PM   #10
Dirtbag59
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 39
Posts: 14,750
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiversons View Post
I hate to say it, but for the first time since drafting both of them, I think we will have a legitimate QB controversy in 8 weeks or whenever III returns... Assuming Captain Kirk plays well, which I expect him to do...
Cousins has a unique talent for playing well enough to help the team avoid a meltdown, but shaky enough to make it difficult to remove RG3. Still anyone remember the MELTDOWN following the Redskins using a draft pick on Cousins?

[Sorry I had to settle for Stephen 'Don't give him a reason to hit you' A. Smith and Skip 'I swear I'm not a racilist' Bayless but I couldn't find original draft footage]
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:26 PM   #11
Alvin Walton
Pro Bowl
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 5,741
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

I think my crush on Griffin is over.
I thought he was going to take us to at least a couple super bowls but now I dont.
He tries to over achieve and do things his paper tiger body cant do.
I am hoping Cousins takes us to the playoffs and Griffin sits the rest of the year.
Then trade him (Griffin) as soon as we can.
Looking back I was in total favor of giving up the picks we did.
Now I regret it.
I would never do that again.
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:27 PM   #12
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 34,496
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Cousins will play well enough to get us the trade value for him next offseason we were looking for this offseason
Question, Do you think Cousins:

1) Has hit his ceiling

2) Can improve in a new system and coaching

3) Lead the team to keep the Skins within playoff contention
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:30 PM   #13
Dirtbag59
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 39
Posts: 14,750
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
Question, Do you think Cousins:

1) Has hit his ceiling

2) Can improve in a new system and coaching

3) Lead the team to keep the Skins within playoff contention
Cousins has always struck me as a 2TD 1 Int type of QB. However these days he might me seeing the field better.


...Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:32 PM   #14
Fiversons
Special Teams
 
Fiversons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 133
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirtbag59 View Post
Cousins has a unique talent for playing well enough to help the team avoid a meltdown, but shaky enough to make it difficult to remove RG3. Still anyone remember the MELTDOWN following the Redskins using a draft pick on Cousins?

[Sorry I had to settle for Stephen 'Don't give him a reason to hit you' A. Smith and Skip 'I swear I'm not a racilist' Bayless but I couldn't find original draft footage]
I give Captain Kirk a pass last year... The entire team was just god awful, so I can't really put too much blame on Kirk... I am not saying he is going to be a stud, but if he is an above average QB, which I think he is, then I don't see how we can let him go this season and bank on RGIII to be the face of the franchise... To me, that would be insanity...
Fiversons is offline  
Old 09-15-2014, 05:35 PM   #15
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
Question, Do you think Cousins:

1) Has hit his ceiling

2) Can improve in a new system and coaching

3) Lead the team to keep the Skins within playoff contention
1. Yes
2. No
3. He won't hurt their quest
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.29882 seconds with 10 queries