How many PPG will the offense Score?

JoeRedskin · 07-01-2014, 10:23 AM

I was reading the most recent Keim article:

What the Washington Redskins' O must produce to get to the playoffs - ESPN

Based on his research, it looks like a team needs to average about 22-24 PPG to be a serious playoff contender.

I can see this offense making 21 PPG on average. Not sure it will have the oomph this year to get over the hump. In my opinion, ST and Def contribute to the offense's PPG through TO's and field position. While I think the offense has the weapons to do score >21 PPG, I also think the defense and ST have to provide assistance and I am simply not convinced they can do so. If the offense is consistently put in a position of needing long drives to score, I just don't see it succeeding. Again, not b/c it can't score on long drives but just that doing so consistently is very difficult.

So ... I see an offense that scores 21 PPG. Anyone else think higher or lower? Does 21 PPG get us into the playoffs?

scowan · 07-01-2014, 11:24 AM

How many possesions do you get on average per game? Is it 8-10? I read that some where. I think the Redskins need to score on at least half of those possesion and TDs over FGs will get you to 28 points. Now that's unrealistic, but the Broncos were doing it consistantly last year. They also scored on way more than half their possesions as well.

A couple of seasons when the Redskins went 6-10, if they could have scored 21 pointsin every game, they would have made the playoffs. "First team to 21 wins", sounds like a basketball game I use to play, but it works in the NFL as well.

Chico23231 · 07-01-2014, 11:34 AM

Its really tough to say how much we can score with a new scheme coming in and to see how are players react in it.

I really hope our special teams can get their act together because that could be the difference.

SirLK26 · 07-01-2014, 12:25 PM

21 sounds about right.

But it's more fun to think about the potential. If the offense stays reasonably healthy, we could be top 5 in PPG easily. That would likely require at least 27 points on average(the top 5 in PPG last year had at least 27), but with the players we have, how unlikely is almost 4 TDs a game? Somewhat unlikely, I suppose, but we do have some darn talented players on offense. If Griffin is more 2012 than 2013 and Reed stays healthy, it's not out of range. Cincinnati put up 26.9 on average, and look at their offensive talent versus ours. I really don't see 27 PPG happening, at least not this year, but it's fun to think about.

rbanerjee23 · 07-01-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SirLK26

21 sounds about right.

But it's more fun to think about the potential. If the offense stays reasonably healthy, we could be top 5 in PPG easily. That would likely require at least 27 points on average(the top 5 in PPG last year had at least 27), but with the players we have, how unlikely is almost 4 TDs a game? Somewhat unlikely, I suppose, but we do have some darn talented players on offense. If Griffin is more 2012 than 2013 and Reed stays healthy, it's not out of range. Cincinnati put up 26.9 on average, and look at their offensive talent versus ours. I really don't see 27 PPG happening, at least not this year, but it's fun to think about.

Yeah, but it takes time to gel as a team, throw in the new coaching staff + offensive system, and I don't think it's reasonable to achieve 4 TDs a game on average in this first season despite the increased talent. I think that 20 PPG is a something that should be achievable (2 TDs and 2 FGs a game) meaning that we do score on half the offensive possessions but balanced with FGs vs TDs

SirLK26 · 07-01-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

Yeah, but it takes time to gel as a team, throw in the new coaching staff + offensive system, and I don't think it's reasonable to achieve 4 TDs a game on average in this first season despite the increased talent. I think that 20 PPG is a something that should be achievable (2 TDs and 2 FGs a game) meaning that we do score on half the offensive possessions but balanced with FGs vs TDs

C'mon, man! I agree that 27 PPG is overly optimistic, but 20? That's less than last year! With an improved RG, healthy Reed, and the addition of Jackson, surely we'll get at least 21. I know, I know, we have a new HC, OC, and playcaller, but the offensive personnel appears to be substantially better than last year. In addition, Gruden improved the Bengals' PPG from 20.1 the year before he was hired to 21.5 his first year. Expecting us to regress seems a bit in the other ditch.

I suppose if those points came all throughout the game instead of mostly in the 2nd half, it would still be an improvement, but I gotta be honest, I'm expecting more PPG than last year.

over the mountain · 07-01-2014, 03:01 PM

if i had to predict at this moment, (which is impossible w new staff/scheme)

i foresee our run game taking a huge hit in production

which will lead to a less open passing attack

i believe what the shannys brought to the table is being very much under-appreciated

i just hope RG3 can overcome obstacles.

PPG prediction (right now) = 17?

FRPLG · 07-01-2014, 03:02 PM

Yeah it will come down to possessions. Our defense ahs to be able to get off the field. They don't have to dominate but we need a couple or three 3 and outs a game. We were lucky to get one last year.

skinsguy · 07-01-2014, 03:19 PM

I see no reason why the offense cannot score, on average, 21 points per ball game. I'd say between 21-24 points will win you more games than you'll lose. The biggest issue will be how many points allowed will the defense allow?

NYCskinfan82 · 07-01-2014, 04:37 PM

We are going to have to score at least 24 to 27 pts a game, how many will we score is the BIG answer.

backrow · 07-01-2014, 06:16 PM

10 + 11 = 21!

CRedskinsRule · 07-01-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by backrow

10 + 11 = 21!

10+88+11

Skins4L · 07-02-2014, 04:29 AM

no 1st play of season flea flickers lol

this offense is gonna move.
morris off tackle. morris slam. playaction pierre get it, playaction desean get it. gonna be fierce. rgs back. i didnt feel like that last year going in... but hes back with something to prove.

how many points exactly? i dont know.

HailGreen28 · 07-02-2014, 09:33 AM

Just a little less than our defense normally gives up.

skinsfan69 · 07-02-2014, 09:37 AM

It comes down to Griffin and players staying healthy. If Griffin can become a better pure passer then I see 30 points or even more. If you put Drew Brees in this offense he's getting 5,000 and 35 td's or more. Although Griffin may not get those type of numbers next year, we need to see him going towards that direction. The pass catchers and rb here are too good to be scoring 21 points a game.

07-01-2014, 10:23 AM	#1
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	How many PPG will the offense Score? I was reading the most recent Keim article: What the Washington Redskins' O must produce to get to the playoffs - ESPN Based on his research, it looks like a team needs to average about 22-24 PPG to be a serious playoff contender. I can see this offense making 21 PPG on average. Not sure it will have the oomph this year to get over the hump. In my opinion, ST and Def contribute to the offense's PPG through TO's and field position. While I think the offense has the weapons to do score >21 PPG, I also think the defense and ST have to provide assistance and I am simply not convinced they can do so. If the offense is consistently put in a position of needing long drives to score, I just don't see it succeeding. Again, not b/c it can't score on long drives but just that doing so consistently is very difficult. So ... I see an offense that scores 21 PPG. Anyone else think higher or lower? Does 21 PPG get us into the playoffs? __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

07-01-2014, 11:24 AM	#2
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 55 Posts: 1,559	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? How many possesions do you get on average per game? Is it 8-10? I read that some where. I think the Redskins need to score on at least half of those possesion and TDs over FGs will get you to 28 points. Now that's unrealistic, but the Broncos were doing it consistantly last year. They also scored on way more than half their possesions as well. A couple of seasons when the Redskins went 6-10, if they could have scored 21 pointsin every game, they would have made the playoffs. "First team to 21 wins", sounds like a basketball game I use to play, but it works in the NFL as well.

07-01-2014, 11:34 AM	#3
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,419	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? Its really tough to say how much we can score with a new scheme coming in and to see how are players react in it. I really hope our special teams can get their act together because that could be the difference. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

07-01-2014, 12:25 PM	#4
SirLK26 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,141	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? 21 sounds about right. But it's more fun to think about the potential. If the offense stays reasonably healthy, we could be top 5 in PPG easily. That would likely require at least 27 points on average(the top 5 in PPG last year had at least 27), but with the players we have, how unlikely is almost 4 TDs a game? Somewhat unlikely, I suppose, but we do have some darn talented players on offense. If Griffin is more 2012 than 2013 and Reed stays healthy, it's not out of range. Cincinnati put up 26.9 on average, and look at their offensive talent versus ours. I really don't see 27 PPG happening, at least not this year, but it's fun to think about.

07-01-2014, 03:01 PM	#7
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? if i had to predict at this moment, (which is impossible w new staff/scheme) i foresee our run game taking a huge hit in production which will lead to a less open passing attack i believe what the shannys brought to the table is being very much under-appreciated i just hope RG3 can overcome obstacles. PPG prediction (right now) = 17?

07-01-2014, 03:02 PM	#8
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? Yeah it will come down to possessions. Our defense ahs to be able to get off the field. They don't have to dominate but we need a couple or three 3 and outs a game. We were lucky to get one last year.

07-01-2014, 03:19 PM	#9
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? I see no reason why the offense cannot score, on average, 21 points per ball game. I'd say between 21-24 points will win you more games than you'll lose. The biggest issue will be how many points allowed will the defense allow? __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

07-01-2014, 04:37 PM	#10
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 55 Posts: 3,803	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? We are going to have to score at least 24 to 27 pts a game, how many will we score is the BIG answer.

07-01-2014, 06:16 PM	#11
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? 10 + 11 = 21! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

07-02-2014, 04:29 AM	#13
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? no 1st play of season flea flickers lol this offense is gonna move. morris off tackle. morris slam. playaction pierre get it, playaction desean get it. gonna be fierce. rgs back. i didnt feel like that last year going in... but hes back with something to prove. how many points exactly? i dont know. __________________ ALL HAIL

07-02-2014, 09:33 AM	#14
HailGreen28 Playmaker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,754	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? Just a little less than our defense normally gives up.

07-02-2014, 09:37 AM	#15
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: How many PPG will the offense Score? It comes down to Griffin and players staying healthy. If Griffin can become a better pure passer then I see 30 points or even more. If you put Drew Brees in this offense he's getting 5,000 and 35 td's or more. Although Griffin may not get those type of numbers next year, we need to see him going towards that direction. The pass catchers and rb here are too good to be scoring 21 points a game.

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