Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles

SKINSnCANES · 04-06-2005, 12:37 AM

I thought this was worthy of its own thread. How much would this suck if he went to the Eagles. They have the talent to keep him on the bench and grrom him. They would get arguably one of the best talents out of the draft with the 31st pick....

That Guy · 04-06-2005, 01:04 AM

or he could be their jeff george and waste a lot of the team's time.

John Hasbrouck · 04-06-2005, 01:55 AM

Matt Jones will be gone before Eagles pick. He needs to develope his blocking,but don't need as much "groomimg" as many people think.

gusbus · 04-06-2005, 11:36 AM

I would like to see the skins trade down & give up Gardner for someone else's 1st round and 2 rd pick. Then take Jones with the 1st rd pick. That kid is a beast. I was at the SC vs Arkansas game last season and he has some wheels. He was clocked at a 4.3 40 and he is 6'6". He has great hands from his b-ball days and Chris Mortenson (kids goes to Ark as a backup QB) says he is the athlete of the draft. Skins should take him. He would play behind Patten, Moss, Thrash and Jacobs.Probably wishfull thinking!

Redskins_P · 04-06-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gusbus

I would like to see the skins trade down & give up Gardner for someone else's 1st round and 2 rd pick. Then take Jones with the 1st rd pick. That kid is a beast. I was at the SC vs Arkansas game last season and he has some wheels. He was clocked at a 4.3 40 and he is 6'6". He has great hands from his b-ball days and Chris Mortenson (kids goes to Ark as a backup QB) says he is the athlete of the draft. Skins should take him. He would play behind Patten, Moss, Thrash and Jacobs.Probably wishfull thinking!

If someone gave us their 1st and 2nd rounder for Gardner, I would be AMAZED! It's not happening. We'll be lucky to even get a trade partner! Seriously though, I think we can still get a 3rd round pick for him, but we'll see. There aren't many teams showing interest.

If we can get this kid Jones in the 2nd or 3rd round, it would be a steal. But I think he'll be gone by early 2nd round.

By the way, welcome to the board gusbus!

BrudLee · 04-06-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

If someone gave us their 1st and 2nd rounder for Gardner, I would be AMAZED! It's not happening. We'll be lucky to even get a trade partner! Seriously though, I think we can still get a 3rd round pick for him, but we'll see. There aren't many teams showing interest.

If we can get this kid Jones in the 2nd or 3rd round, it would be a steal. But I think he'll be gone by early 2nd round.

By the way, welcome to the board gusbus!

I think he means Gardner and the #9 pick, which isn't ouotrageous.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-06-2005, 12:44 PM

Honestly, if somehow we could end up with Jones, I'd be very happy to have him as a project.

Redskins_P · 04-06-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

I think he means Gardner and the #9 pick, which isn't ouotrageous.

Ok, now that makes sense.

celts32 · 04-06-2005, 02:36 PM

The Eagles are exactly the team that can most afford to gamble on Jones since they are loaded with talent and cap room. If he is a bust they still won't miss a beat.

The skins can not afford to come up empty in the first round so they are the last team that should be thinking matt Jones.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-06-2005, 04:04 PM

I'm definitely not thinking him first round, however if we end up with a second round pick by trading down (if possible), I would like to see us take the gamble after we've address our needs at either WR or CB.

diehardskin2982 · 04-06-2005, 05:37 PM

I take him if we didn't supprise every one and take a stab at Mike Willams.

memphisskin · 04-07-2005, 01:57 PM

We're not in a position to draft projects, we need people who can contribute right now. Matt Jones is a beast, I remember the UT-Arkansas OT game in which he looked unstoppable.

But all of his success came under center. I think he'll be good at wideout, but probably not at first. The reason he was so successful at qb is that he was faster than he looked, you don't expect a guy 6'6 to run a 4.3. That said, I don't think you can plug him in at wideout and just expect him to be a playmaker because he's fast. Just looking at how first year wideouts struggle, on average, it'd be a big leap to think that a former qb could come in the NFL and have an impact in his first year. Look at Eric Crouch, or any of the other Nebraska qbs.

BossHog · 04-11-2005, 06:25 PM

Yeah. Matt Jones fits what we are trying to do here on offense. I believe if our highest priority is to draft a WR it should be Jones. He brings 'more' to the table than Mark Clayton, Mike Williams, and Braylon Edwards. And Jones has tremendous value being taken as a late first rounder. Troy Williamson and Mike Williams will be great vale picks if they are not drafted high as they've been projected.

drew54 · 04-11-2005, 07:03 PM

Matt Jones isnt a project. He is a stud. Dont even compare him to that Nebraska puke Crouch. This kid is faster, stronger, and taller than all the other wideouts projected in the first. He had amazing hands at the senior bowl and the combine. I swear if we took him at nine, I wouldn't be worried about it at all.

He will end up having a Randy Moss like rookie year effect on the team that drafts him. But that won't be in Philly. There is no way he makes it past Pittsburgh.

I think he could be in Dallas, Keyshawn is old and doesn't have it anymore. If thats the case I will puke my guts out.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-11-2005, 10:50 PM

drew, I'm with you. Not in the fact that I REALLY REALLY want him with our #9 pick, but it's one of those "I'd much rather the Cowboys NOT have him." type of things. I have this shaky feeling that Julius Jones is going to be a good back for them and god forbid they get another young, good WR.

04-06-2005, 12:37 AM	#1
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles I thought this was worthy of its own thread. How much would this suck if he went to the Eagles. They have the talent to keep him on the bench and grrom him. They would get arguably one of the best talents out of the draft with the 31st pick.... __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

04-06-2005, 01:04 AM	#2
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles or he could be their jeff george and waste a lot of the team's time.

04-06-2005, 01:55 AM	#3
John Hasbrouck Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 180	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles Matt Jones will be gone before Eagles pick. He needs to develope his blocking,but don't need as much "groomimg" as many people think.

04-06-2005, 11:36 AM	#4
gusbus Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 58	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles I would like to see the skins trade down & give up Gardner for someone else's 1st round and 2 rd pick. Then take Jones with the 1st rd pick. That kid is a beast. I was at the SC vs Arkansas game last season and he has some wheels. He was clocked at a 4.3 40 and he is 6'6". He has great hands from his b-ball days and Chris Mortenson (kids goes to Ark as a backup QB) says he is the athlete of the draft. Skins should take him. He would play behind Patten, Moss, Thrash and Jacobs.Probably wishfull thinking!

04-06-2005, 12:44 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles Honestly, if somehow we could end up with Jones, I'd be very happy to have him as a project. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-06-2005, 02:36 PM	#9
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles The Eagles are exactly the team that can most afford to gamble on Jones since they are loaded with talent and cap room. If he is a bust they still won't miss a beat. The skins can not afford to come up empty in the first round so they are the last team that should be thinking matt Jones.

04-06-2005, 04:04 PM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles I'm definitely not thinking him first round, however if we end up with a second round pick by trading down (if possible), I would like to see us take the gamble after we've address our needs at either WR or CB. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-06-2005, 05:37 PM	#11
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles I take him if we didn't supprise every one and take a stab at Mike Willams. __________________ That got ugly fast

04-07-2005, 01:57 PM	#12
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles We're not in a position to draft projects, we need people who can contribute right now. Matt Jones is a beast, I remember the UT-Arkansas OT game in which he looked unstoppable. But all of his success came under center. I think he'll be good at wideout, but probably not at first. The reason he was so successful at qb is that he was faster than he looked, you don't expect a guy 6'6 to run a 4.3. That said, I don't think you can plug him in at wideout and just expect him to be a playmaker because he's fast. Just looking at how first year wideouts struggle, on average, it'd be a big leap to think that a former qb could come in the NFL and have an impact in his first year. Look at Eric Crouch, or any of the other Nebraska qbs.

04-11-2005, 06:25 PM	#13
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles Yeah. Matt Jones fits what we are trying to do here on offense. I believe if our highest priority is to draft a WR it should be Jones. He brings 'more' to the table than Mark Clayton, Mike Williams, and Braylon Edwards. And Jones has tremendous value being taken as a late first rounder. Troy Williamson and Mike Williams will be great vale picks if they are not drafted high as they've been projected.

04-11-2005, 07:03 PM	#14
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles Matt Jones isnt a project. He is a stud. Dont even compare him to that Nebraska puke Crouch. This kid is faster, stronger, and taller than all the other wideouts projected in the first. He had amazing hands at the senior bowl and the combine. I swear if we took him at nine, I wouldn't be worried about it at all. He will end up having a Randy Moss like rookie year effect on the team that drafts him. But that won't be in Philly. There is no way he makes it past Pittsburgh. I think he could be in Dallas, Keyshawn is old and doesn't have it anymore. If thats the case I will puke my guts out.

04-11-2005, 10:50 PM	#15
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Kiper has Matt Jones going to the Eagles drew, I'm with you. Not in the fact that I REALLY REALLY want him with our #9 pick, but it's one of those "I'd much rather the Cowboys NOT have him." type of things. I have this shaky feeling that Julius Jones is going to be a good back for them and god forbid they get another young, good WR. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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