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03-01-2014, 12:49 PM | #1 |
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That escalated quickly. Putin couldn't wait for the Olympics to be over and what does it exactly mean there is going to be costs from our President? Eastern Europe loves them some war.
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03-01-2014, 12:57 PM | #2 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
For those of us who haven't been following could someone explain the situation in a few sentences?
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03-01-2014, 01:11 PM | #3 |
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Crimea is a region in Ukraine that hosts the Russian fleet and has a large Russian speaking and Russian leaning population. It also is a large economic engine for Ukraine as a whole. Ukraine replaced a Russian leaning prime minister and there is a serious secession movement and possible civil war. Russia today approved sending troops into Crimea and Pres Obama said there will be "costs" if Russia did.
Another background is that Ukraine agreed to give up their nuclear defense only when the US and Europe agreed to ensure their sovereignty. |
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And Ukraine has called for a general troop mobilization. The question in my mind is will the US put a naval vessel in the area as a sign of support, or are we going to cede eastern Europe's fate back to Russia. One may push to some level of military response, the other leads down a path of appeasement.
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03-01-2014, 02:40 PM | #6 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
What CRedskinsRule said.
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03-01-2014, 02:47 PM | #7 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
Putin has punked Obama at every turn since he has been back.
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03-01-2014, 08:17 PM | #8 |
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If you don't pull your troops out we won't send minions to a low level G8 talk.
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03-01-2014, 08:24 PM | #9 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
So what's driving this conflict? Ethnic Ukraine vs. Russian? Natural gas? The strategic importance of the Crimea?
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03-01-2014, 09:03 PM | #10 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
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Putin move was probably the boldest military action since the Afghanistan invasion for Russia. They are simply not gonna turn around now
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03-01-2014, 09:55 PM | #12 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
The un and European union better send in peacekeepers now because those Russian trooper will eat up any type of protestors. It's gonna get ugly
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03-02-2014, 12:03 AM | #13 |
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Interesting and well written article on this. http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsate...n-into-crimea/
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03-02-2014, 12:12 AM | #14 |
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
The original issue started when the Ukrainian President refused a deal to join the EU in order to stay loyal to Russia. As you can see from previously posted maps, there's a pretty big divide in the country where allegiances lie.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.
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Why haven't you? I've been meaning to start this thread a bit ago when the protesting started to turn for the worst, but I had my doubts anybody would care. I am now vindicated with the above....lol
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