D-Line.

Daseal · 03-29-2005, 03:18 PM

I see a lot of people are interested in bolstering our defensive line. Going into the season we have Wynn - Griffen - (noble/salava'e rotation) - Daniels. This line isn't star-studded by any means. Griffen played amazing ball last year, I doubt he can keep that up but I hope so. Wynn is constantly solid. Noble/Salavae'a did a great job in my opinion. Always a fresh person in there and played hard. Daniels we haven't seen, but I think he could be good.

We don't have any top tier pass rushers there, but I'm willing to say we don't need any. Not only are great DEs some of the most expensive players to pay, they are some of the hardest to find consistantly in the draft. Williams brings pressure from everywhere and anywhere. With the blitzers we have in Springs, Arringon, Taylor, Bowen, and Washington is it really necessary to be able to creat havoc with our front four? Not only that, do you want to see us rushing only four and dropping back into coverage?

Personally, I love the jaillbreak blitzes Williams runs. They're exciting, they're fun to watch, and they can force other teams into mistakes. While I wouldn't mind having a stud on the defensive line, I don't feel it's worth the high draft pick and/or the salary one would command. We have a great blitzing team as is now. The line in it's current form seems to do their job of occupying blockers and playing pretty damn solid against the run. I think we have much bigger needs to spend our cash on!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-29-2005, 03:23 PM

I completely agree with that. I loved the way our D-Line played last year.

offiss · 03-29-2005, 03:30 PM

I have been saying that since day 1, we pressured the QB pretty good last season we should be even better this year if Lavar is everything a lot of people say he is. No need for a D-end not in the first rd any way, I am always for upgrading but our needs early in the draft lie else where.

SmootSmack · 03-29-2005, 03:36 PM

well the thing is if you have Harris then you'd need a pass-rushing DE right? Because man to man coverage is not his strength so you'd probably need the safety helping him out. Whereas last year Smoot could man cover and Bowen, Lott, whoever could come on the safety blitz...but then someone like Rolle or PacMan probably eliminates or lessens the need for a pass-rushing DE

I don't know, ask Ramseyfan. He articulates this better than I do

diehardskin2982 · 03-29-2005, 03:39 PM

I loved how the line played last season, but I am afriad of injuries and I want some quality depth to go along with the others on that line. A player Like hovan, who has been passed over by many teams may be a cheap awesome pick up in our system, if he could be motivated to greatness but I don't want us to overpay for anyone.

Daseal · 03-29-2005, 03:40 PM

Well - with a blitzing scheme there's often a lot less time that a CB has to cover, but Harris is a huge downgrade from Smoot, no matter what anyone says! That's why I feel our defense could drop out of the top 10 this year.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-29-2005, 03:48 PM

You're SO NOT a fan Daseal.

offiss · 03-29-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Well - with a blitzing scheme there's often a lot less time that a CB has to cover, but Harris is a huge downgrade from Smoot, no matter what anyone says! That's why I feel our defense could drop out of the top 10 this year.

I disagree, Harris when given the opportunity last year was almost alway's all over his man, now I understand he was drawing the 3rd reciever but I have a lot of confidence in his ability to cover 1 on 1, and remember we have Wilds as a backup plan if he does fail, didn't Wilds do a fantastic job on arguably the best reciever in the game 1 on 1, Moss? Not to mention help may be on the way in this years draft. Harris is a playmaker he did it on special teams as well, he has as much physical ability as Smoot if not more, and from an interview I saw with him he stated that he wasen't a 100% last year because of his knee surgery but he is now, I think he will make everyone forget about Smoot in a hurry.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-29-2005, 03:55 PM

I'm down for drafting a CB at #1, even though I'd prefer Williams.

diehardskin2982 · 03-29-2005, 03:58 PM

everyone prefers williams but he won't be avialable by our pick and thats a fact

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-29-2005, 04:02 PM

We might get surprised. It could be the normal rhetoric that teams spew when they are trying to trick other teams into trading their picks away.

offiss · 03-29-2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

everyone prefers williams but he won't be avialable by our pick and thats a fact

Fact? I don't know about that, you may be right DHS but I wouldn't say it's a lock by no means, personally I think V. Jackson will be better over all, but I can't deny that I feel Williams will be a tremendous asset in the red zone, he has the best hands in college, and maybe in the NFL once he arrives.

diehardskin2982 · 03-29-2005, 04:08 PM

we will see my friends

Drift Reality · 03-29-2005, 04:31 PM

Don't forget that in nickel situations we can always bring in Clemons and Warner - two guys who have some pass rush ability.

dirtbag2112 · 03-29-2005, 04:33 PM

I love our front four on D, but I still think we need a pure pass rushing end. This could only help our D and allow for more disguised coverages and we wouldn't have to blitz DB's all the time. Cornelius can bring pressure from the middle, but we need a DE with some ability to get to the QB. Wynn is getting old and there is a big ? with Daniels. IMO we should take an end in the 3rd...just my thoughts. Look what Kearse did with the eagles...the guys that really disrupted our offense were Kearse, Brown (Alex), Smith and so on. A pass rushing DE can make a HUGE difference.

03-29-2005, 03:23 PM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: D-Line. I completely agree with that. I loved the way our D-Line played last year. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-29-2005, 03:30 PM	#3
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: D-Line. I have been saying that since day 1, we pressured the QB pretty good last season we should be even better this year if Lavar is everything a lot of people say he is. No need for a D-end not in the first rd any way, I am always for upgrading but our needs early in the draft lie else where.

03-29-2005, 03:36 PM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: D-Line. well the thing is if you have Harris then you'd need a pass-rushing DE right? Because man to man coverage is not his strength so you'd probably need the safety helping him out. Whereas last year Smoot could man cover and Bowen, Lott, whoever could come on the safety blitz...but then someone like Rolle or PacMan probably eliminates or lessens the need for a pass-rushing DE I don't know, ask Ramseyfan. He articulates this better than I do __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-29-2005, 03:39 PM	#5
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: D-Line. I loved how the line played last season, but I am afriad of injuries and I want some quality depth to go along with the others on that line. A player Like hovan, who has been passed over by many teams may be a cheap awesome pick up in our system, if he could be motivated to greatness but I don't want us to overpay for anyone. __________________ That got ugly fast

03-29-2005, 03:40 PM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: D-Line. Well - with a blitzing scheme there's often a lot less time that a CB has to cover, but Harris is a huge downgrade from Smoot, no matter what anyone says! That's why I feel our defense could drop out of the top 10 this year. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-29-2005, 03:18 PM	#1
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	D-Line. I see a lot of people are interested in bolstering our defensive line. Going into the season we have Wynn - Griffen - (noble/salava'e rotation) - Daniels. This line isn't star-studded by any means. Griffen played amazing ball last year, I doubt he can keep that up but I hope so. Wynn is constantly solid. Noble/Salavae'a did a great job in my opinion. Always a fresh person in there and played hard. Daniels we haven't seen, but I think he could be good. We don't have any top tier pass rushers there, but I'm willing to say we don't need any. Not only are great DEs some of the most expensive players to pay, they are some of the hardest to find consistantly in the draft. Williams brings pressure from everywhere and anywhere. With the blitzers we have in Springs, Arringon, Taylor, Bowen, and Washington is it really necessary to be able to creat havoc with our front four? Not only that, do you want to see us rushing only four and dropping back into coverage? Personally, I love the jaillbreak blitzes Williams runs. They're exciting, they're fun to watch, and they can force other teams into mistakes. While I wouldn't mind having a stud on the defensive line, I don't feel it's worth the high draft pick and/or the salary one would command. We have a great blitzing team as is now. The line in it's current form seems to do their job of occupying blockers and playing pretty damn solid against the run. I think we have much bigger needs to spend our cash on! __________________ Best. Player. Available.

03-29-2005, 03:48 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: D-Line. You're SO NOT a fan Daseal. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-29-2005, 03:55 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: D-Line. I'm down for drafting a CB at #1, even though I'd prefer Williams. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-29-2005, 03:58 PM	#10
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: D-Line. everyone prefers williams but he won't be avialable by our pick and thats a fact __________________ That got ugly fast

03-29-2005, 04:02 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: D-Line. We might get surprised. It could be the normal rhetoric that teams spew when they are trying to trick other teams into trading their picks away. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-29-2005, 04:08 PM	#13
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: D-Line. we will see my friends __________________ That got ugly fast

03-29-2005, 04:31 PM	#14
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Re: D-Line. Don't forget that in nickel situations we can always bring in Clemons and Warner - two guys who have some pass rush ability. __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

03-29-2005, 04:33 PM	#15
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: D-Line. I love our front four on D, but I still think we need a pure pass rushing end. This could only help our D and allow for more disguised coverages and we wouldn't have to blitz DB's all the time. Cornelius can bring pressure from the middle, but we need a DE with some ability to get to the QB. Wynn is getting old and there is a big ? with Daniels. IMO we should take an end in the 3rd...just my thoughts. Look what Kearse did with the eagles...the guys that really disrupted our offense were Kearse, Brown (Alex), Smith and so on. A pass rushing DE can make a HUGE difference.

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