One last thing about Coles...

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-16-2005, 08:49 AM

In case this hasn't already been posted, I got this over at Tandler's Redskins Blog:

"Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take."

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FRPLG · 03-16-2005, 08:57 AM

Exactly the kind of attitude that will infect whatever team he is on like ebola. Good riddance you craptastic jerk. Too bad your attitude is going to doom your career in spite of the fact that you have loads of talent. Every team he has been on in the last 7 years has booted his ass out the door. That's telling when you consider it. I mean he couldn't stay on at FSU where they only thing that gets you off the team is murder. Warrick even was given the benefit of the doubt and allowed back. Not Coles though. Then he was ushered out the door unceremoniously in NY the first time with some nice comments from Herm Edwards who wouldn't say a bad thing about Hitler. The question is though...why did they take him back?

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-16-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Exactly the kind of attitude that will infect whatever team he is on like ebola. Good riddance you craptastic jerk. Too bad your attitude is going to doom your career in spite of the fact that you have loads of talent. Every team he has been on in the last 7 years has booted his ass out the door. That's telling when you consider it. I mean he couldn't stay on at FSU where they only thing that gets you off the team is murder. Warrick even was given the benefit of the doubt and allowed back. Not Coles though. Then he was ushered out the door unceremoniously in NY the first time with some nice comments from Herm Edwards who wouldn't say a bad thing about Hitler. The question is though...why did they take him back?

LOL!! What he said

MTK · 03-16-2005, 09:09 AM

"He called the plays and we ran them."

I'm sorry but what is wrong with this picture??

Nothing.

FRPLG · 03-16-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

"He called the plays and we ran them."

I'm sorry but what is wrong with this picture??

Nothing.

I don't know man... That sounds a little crazy to me. I mean shouldn't the players simply call the plays and the coaches can make sure they have all the Gatorade they need and stuff like that. I mean really I am sure Coles knows more the Gibbs. In fact what is the point of coaches? I know I used to play backyard football and I never had a coach there. We did fine at calling plays. I'd bet most of the players in the league have done this. That qualifies them doesn't it?

I wonder if Coles realizes how ridiculous he sounds when he makes a stupid statment like that?

MTK · 03-16-2005, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I don't know man... That sounds a little crazy to me. I mean shouldn't the players simply call the plays and the coaches can make sure they have all the Gatorade they need and stuff like that. I mean really I am sure Coles knows more the Gibbs. In fact what is the point of coaches? I know I used to play backyard football and I never had a coach there. We did fine at calling plays. I'd bet most of the players in the league have done this. That qualifies them doesn't it?

LOL

Coaches? We're talkin' bout coaches? Coaches??

Who needs coaches?

Will LC be calling the plays in NY??

Daseal · 03-16-2005, 09:18 AM

Coaches should take input from their players, all the great coaches do. This is where Coles was upset I'm guessing.

BrudLee · 03-16-2005, 09:21 AM

First of all, kudos to FRPLG for correct use of the word "craptastic".

Evidence of the need for Coles' departure aren't going to convince those who think we handled his exit poorly otherwise. There are very few left who think Coles should have stayed, and you are never going to win over the "tinfoil hat" crowd.

My favorite argument that bashes the path we took is the one that says we should have kept Coles, and made him inactive until he saw the light. The same people angrily denounce Snyder for threatening to do just that, proving that Snyder can do no right.

SmootSmack · 03-16-2005, 09:24 AM

This is like deja vu

all over again

FRPLG · 03-16-2005, 09:26 AM

I do think we could have handled it better. I think releasing him and getting 5 mil in cap room would have been better than getting Moss. I think they maybe got caught up in a pissing match and outsmarted themselves. Apparently they think more of Moss than most people and I can only hope they are clairvoyant in the regard.

That's gotta be the first time ANYONE has used both craptastic and clairvoyant in a thread in the history of the board.

Daseal · 03-16-2005, 09:27 AM

Brud - There are many reports of Coles saying he thought he had it worked out with Gibbs when Snyder called him and he knew he was past the point of no return. He also said if he stayed he'd play hard. It's how he is, he's a worker and would have played well for us.

Yellow31 · 03-16-2005, 09:35 AM

Two words for Coles--BYE,BYE!!!!!

BrudLee · 03-16-2005, 09:40 AM

Daseal-
I don't think he would say, "If they kept me, I'd have dogged it up and down the field, and intentionally fumbled when given the chance."

I don't doubt Coles would have worked hard, but he vocally did not want to be here. That is not a good situation for a team trying to rebuild and install a new system.

I wish we had gotten more for Coles, and paid less to do it. I'm just not going to begrudge the result.

MTK · 03-16-2005, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Coaches should take input from their players, all the great coaches do. This is where Coles was upset I'm guessing.

Nothing wrong with taking input from your players and I'm sure Gibbs does, but in the end the coach is responsible for making the decisions.

MTK · 03-16-2005, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrudLee

First of all, kudos to FRPLG for correct use of the word "craptastic".

Evidence of the need for Coles' departure aren't going to convince those who think we handled his exit poorly otherwise. There are very few left who think Coles should have stayed, and you are never going to win over the "tinfoil hat" crowd.

My favorite argument that bashes the path we took is the one that says we should have kept Coles, and made him inactive until he saw the light. The same people angrily denounce Snyder for threatening to do just that, proving that Snyder can do no right.

And kudos to you my friend for using "tinfoil hat" crowd, just brilliant! LOL

03-16-2005, 08:49 AM	#1
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,252	One last thing about Coles... In case this hasn't already been posted, I got this over at Tandler's Redskins Blog: "Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take." http://redskinsblog.blogspot.com/ __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-16-2005, 08:57 AM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: One last thing about Coles... Exactly the kind of attitude that will infect whatever team he is on like ebola. Good riddance you craptastic jerk. Too bad your attitude is going to doom your career in spite of the fact that you have loads of talent. Every team he has been on in the last 7 years has booted his ass out the door. That's telling when you consider it. I mean he couldn't stay on at FSU where they only thing that gets you off the team is murder. Warrick even was given the benefit of the doubt and allowed back. Not Coles though. Then he was ushered out the door unceremoniously in NY the first time with some nice comments from Herm Edwards who wouldn't say a bad thing about Hitler. The question is though...why did they take him back?

03-16-2005, 09:09 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,731	Re: One last thing about Coles... "He called the plays and we ran them." I'm sorry but what is wrong with this picture?? Nothing. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-16-2005, 09:18 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: One last thing about Coles... Coaches should take input from their players, all the great coaches do. This is where Coles was upset I'm guessing.

03-16-2005, 09:21 AM	#8
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: One last thing about Coles... First of all, kudos to FRPLG for correct use of the word "craptastic". Evidence of the need for Coles' departure aren't going to convince those who think we handled his exit poorly otherwise. There are very few left who think Coles should have stayed, and you are never going to win over the "tinfoil hat" crowd. My favorite argument that bashes the path we took is the one that says we should have kept Coles, and made him inactive until he saw the light. The same people angrily denounce Snyder for threatening to do just that, proving that Snyder can do no right. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

03-16-2005, 09:24 AM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: One last thing about Coles... This is like deja vu all over again __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-16-2005, 09:26 AM	#10
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: One last thing about Coles... I do think we could have handled it better. I think releasing him and getting 5 mil in cap room would have been better than getting Moss. I think they maybe got caught up in a pissing match and outsmarted themselves. Apparently they think more of Moss than most people and I can only hope they are clairvoyant in the regard. That's gotta be the first time ANYONE has used both craptastic and clairvoyant in a thread in the history of the board.

03-16-2005, 09:27 AM	#11
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: One last thing about Coles... Brud - There are many reports of Coles saying he thought he had it worked out with Gibbs when Snyder called him and he knew he was past the point of no return. He also said if he stayed he'd play hard. It's how he is, he's a worker and would have played well for us.

03-16-2005, 09:35 AM	#12
Yellow31 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 125	Re: One last thing about Coles... Two words for Coles--BYE,BYE!!!!!

03-16-2005, 09:40 AM	#13
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: One last thing about Coles... Daseal- I don't think he would say, "If they kept me, I'd have dogged it up and down the field, and intentionally fumbled when given the chance." I don't doubt Coles would have worked hard, but he vocally did not want to be here. That is not a good situation for a team trying to rebuild and install a new system. I wish we had gotten more for Coles, and paid less to do it. I'm just not going to begrudge the result. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

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