Center Position

Skinsfanatic · 03-07-2005, 11:17 PM

Just Curious, who do you guys think we are gonna let go (if anyone) at the Center position now that we have Rabauch. With the salary cap position we are in, I say we let Raymer go (and save 800k this year) and keep Freidman. Releasing Lenny would only save 700k this year, and he is more versatile than Raymer as far as being a backup.

Also, with the money we will save by trading Gardner (about 1.5mil), how much will we be under the salary cap given what we know now. Realistically, don't we have enough money to sweeten our deal with Smoot at least a little. I know that a lot of people may not think that Smoot is worth the money, or that we will be OK without him, but why should we allow a great defense to be broken up anymore than it has to be. Pierce is gone. Nothing we can do about that now. But if we keep Smoot, the defense is, in large part, the same defense next year. And, I don't know how many of you agree with me on this, but in my opinion Smoot is the heart and soul of the defense. Arrington is a star and a beast, Washington is both brainy and athletic, and I would run like hell the other direction if I saw Sean Taylor coming my way. But I tell you, every time I see Smoot lay a shoulder into someone, it gets by blood pumping. Smoot started out a cover guy, but now he is an inspiring force. He plays tough every play, and his personality and showmanship make him seem to me like the second coming of Darrell Green (NOTE: I AM NOT COMPARING THEIR TALENT LEVELS).

P.S. I just read that Smoot's agent's last name is COOKE. Come on, if thats not a sign he should stay a Skin for life, what is?

Daseal · 03-08-2005, 12:02 AM

Let both Raymer and Freidman go - worse comes to worse we'll toss Ethan Albright in there!

drew54 · 03-08-2005, 01:03 AM

Ethan is only a long snapper, and is more of a TE, than a C.

Let them battle it out in camp unless we need that extra 700K to secure a major need(Maybe Smoot, Maybe something else.)

Daseal · 03-08-2005, 01:06 AM

Does that mean we'll try a couple shotgun formations?!

That Guy · 03-08-2005, 08:58 AM

lenny had trouble getting the ball snapped to ramsey, sso for that alone, he'd be my choice.

SkinsRock · 03-08-2005, 11:10 AM

Raymer is older and only plays center, but is a "Gibbs-type guy". Friedman can play C or G, but had trouble with the exchange.
If things go the way they should, Rabach will be starting all year, so to me, keeping the more "utility" player, Friedman makes more sense. Buges can work with him with the C-QB exchange issues.

Redskins_P · 03-08-2005, 11:24 AM

I say cut em both and draft a C in the later rounds....

FRPLG · 03-08-2005, 11:31 AM

no reason to cut both of them and take a cap hit when either one would be a serviceable backup. let them battle it out in camp. Freidman seems more valuable though.

Skinsfanatic · 03-08-2005, 11:33 AM

Releasing both wouldn't equal a cap hit, it would equal a savings of about 1.5 mil. That might be a good idea since we seem to have enough utility guys and could draft one or two more late in the draft.

SkinsRock · 03-08-2005, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

Releasing both wouldn't equal a cap hit, it would equal a savings of about 1.5 mil. That might be a good idea since we seem to have enough utility guys and could draft one or two more late in the draft.

But do you want your back-up center to be a rookie? I don't think so. Injuries can happen any time, and I can't see Gibbs taking that kind of risk.

Redskins_P · 03-08-2005, 11:50 AM

SkinsRock you bring up a good point. Maybe we just let go of one of them.......

MTK · 03-08-2005, 07:10 PM

I see Raymer coming back, Friedman getting the axe

03-07-2005, 11:17 PM	#1
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,385	Center Position Just Curious, who do you guys think we are gonna let go (if anyone) at the Center position now that we have Rabauch. With the salary cap position we are in, I say we let Raymer go (and save 800k this year) and keep Freidman. Releasing Lenny would only save 700k this year, and he is more versatile than Raymer as far as being a backup. Also, with the money we will save by trading Gardner (about 1.5mil), how much will we be under the salary cap given what we know now. Realistically, don't we have enough money to sweeten our deal with Smoot at least a little. I know that a lot of people may not think that Smoot is worth the money, or that we will be OK without him, but why should we allow a great defense to be broken up anymore than it has to be. Pierce is gone. Nothing we can do about that now. But if we keep Smoot, the defense is, in large part, the same defense next year. And, I don't know how many of you agree with me on this, but in my opinion Smoot is the heart and soul of the defense. Arrington is a star and a beast, Washington is both brainy and athletic, and I would run like hell the other direction if I saw Sean Taylor coming my way. But I tell you, every time I see Smoot lay a shoulder into someone, it gets by blood pumping. Smoot started out a cover guy, but now he is an inspiring force. He plays tough every play, and his personality and showmanship make him seem to me like the second coming of Darrell Green (NOTE: I AM NOT COMPARING THEIR TALENT LEVELS). P.S. I just read that Smoot's agent's last name is COOKE. Come on, if thats not a sign he should stay a Skin for life, what is?

03-08-2005, 12:02 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Center Position Let both Raymer and Freidman go - worse comes to worse we'll toss Ethan Albright in there!

03-08-2005, 01:03 AM	#3
drew54 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: IOWA Age: 42 Posts: 1,324	Re: Center Position Ethan is only a long snapper, and is more of a TE, than a C. Let them battle it out in camp unless we need that extra 700K to secure a major need(Maybe Smoot, Maybe something else.)

03-08-2005, 01:06 AM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Center Position Does that mean we'll try a couple shotgun formations?!

03-08-2005, 08:58 AM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Center Position lenny had trouble getting the ball snapped to ramsey, sso for that alone, he'd be my choice.

03-08-2005, 11:10 AM	#6
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: Center Position Raymer is older and only plays center, but is a "Gibbs-type guy". Friedman can play C or G, but had trouble with the exchange. If things go the way they should, Rabach will be starting all year, so to me, keeping the more "utility" player, Friedman makes more sense. Buges can work with him with the C-QB exchange issues.

03-08-2005, 11:24 AM	#7
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Center Position I say cut em both and draft a C in the later rounds....

03-08-2005, 11:31 AM	#8
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Center Position no reason to cut both of them and take a cap hit when either one would be a serviceable backup. let them battle it out in camp. Freidman seems more valuable though.

03-08-2005, 11:33 AM	#9
Skinsfanatic The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,385	Re: Center Position Releasing both wouldn't equal a cap hit, it would equal a savings of about 1.5 mil. That might be a good idea since we seem to have enough utility guys and could draft one or two more late in the draft.

03-08-2005, 11:50 AM	#11
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Center Position SkinsRock you bring up a good point. Maybe we just let go of one of them.......

03-08-2005, 07:10 PM	#12
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Center Position I see Raymer coming back, Friedman getting the axe __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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