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REDSKINS4ever · 11-07-2012, 03:48 PM

Last season, the Redskins defense was stellar all season long and finished with a 13th place ranking in the NFL. As we all know, the defense has regressed this season after it showed much progress last season. I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact cause. Is it the scheme, the coverages that are called, or is the problem the personnel? Haslett can't truly be the problem as the defense in the past under his watch has been better.

If the problem is indeed the personnel in the secondary, then what players need to be replaced as a result? It's been said that D. Hall is not a true #1 CB and neither is Josh Wilson. Reed Doughty, while a decent fill in, can only help so much. And Madieu Williams has played more poorly than great although I credit him with a pick 6 against the Vikings weeks back. Brandon Meriweather hasn't played all season and Mike Shanahan should be blamed for signing a junky like Tanard Jackson, knowing full well that he had been in trouble with the NFL before for past offenses.

Next year in the draft or/and free agency, which players do the Redskins target to fix this anemic problem?

Thoughts?

Chico23231 · 11-07-2012, 04:25 PM

Personel>coaching>scheme.

1. Orakpo loss was massive. AC as well, but not close to in terms of necessity.
2. Shanny f8cked us with personel decisions of T Jax and going with B Merriweather with the Safety plan.
3. Josh Wilson is the only stater quality CB, and he is a #2 at best. We also really have no effective #3 CB. We have a serious lack of talent in the secondary.

3-4 is not the problem, but Haslett game planning and adjustments certainly are.

Keep the 3-4 scheme, change the DC and add significant starting talent at all secondary positions. Continue to build depth at NT and ILB.

Bucket · 11-07-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Personel>coaching>scheme.

1. Orakpo loss was massive. AC as well, but not close to in terms of necessity.
2. Shanny f8cked us with personel decisions of T Jax and going with B Merriweather with the Safety plan.
3. Josh Wilson is the only stater quality CB, and he is a #2 at best. We also really have no effective #3 CB. We have a serious lack of talent in the secondary.

3-4 is not the problem, but Haslett game planning and adjustments certainly are.

Keep the 3-4 scheme, change the DC and add significant starting talent at all secondary positions. Continue to build depth at NT and ILB.

Not sure what you mean by Shanahan fckin people with the safety choices. He didnt injure Merriweather and didnt suspend Tjak. We dont know how they would of panned out since they are not on the field.

skinsfaninok · 11-07-2012, 04:49 PM

I really don't understand how Josh Wilson is still liked by fans, the guy is straight Garbage

GoSkins! · 11-07-2012, 04:56 PM

I would really love to know what the plan was for defense if we didn't get the 18mil cap hit on the eve of free agency.

los panda · 11-07-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I would really love to know what the plan was for defense if we didn't get the 18mil cap hit on the eve of free agency.

finnegan

Chico23231 · 11-07-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I really don't understand how Josh Wilson is still liked by fans, the guy is straight Garbage

I think he is only signed through next year. His contract is affordable and we cant afford to cut the entire secondary. Bring him back, cut Hall and let the 1 year deals of C Griff and M Williams expire and not resign either. Merriweather has another year left on his deal, so bring him back. We add 2 corners in the draft and free agency. We add another safety through the draft and hopefully sign a quality Free Safety. Cut Gomes as well.

MTK · 11-07-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I really don't understand how Josh Wilson is still liked by fans, the guy is straight Garbage

Just like D-Hall. Scrap them both.

WaldSkins · 11-07-2012, 05:06 PM

How would people feel about signing Stanford routt who was cut by the chiefs on monday

los panda · 11-07-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

How would people feel about signing Stanford routt who was cut by the chiefs on monday

i want it to happen, hopefully he'd come cheaper than he would have been off waivers. i don't think he comes here, but i welcome him.

Chico23231 · 11-07-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

How would people feel about signing Stanford routt who was cut by the chiefs on monday

SS said probably not happening. I wouldnt be against bringing him in and cutting D Hall and send a message.

WaldSkins · 11-07-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

SS said probably not happening. I wouldnt be against bringing him in and cutting D Hall and send a message.

If I was gonna cut anyone it would be Wilson. But we are already thin at the position anyway so we can't afford to lose anyone. Let Wilson and routt start and move dhall to starting fs

MTK · 11-07-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

How would people feel about signing Stanford routt who was cut by the chiefs on monday

What's the deal with him? Cut by two teams in less than a year?

los panda · 11-07-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

What's the deal with him? Cut by two teams in less than a year?

tourette's bothers some people more that it bothers others

skinsfaninok · 11-07-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just like D-Hall. Scrap them both.

agreed

11-07-2012, 04:49 PM	#4
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: Defensive Parts I really don't understand how Josh Wilson is still liked by fans, the guy is straight Garbage __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-07-2012, 04:56 PM	#5
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Defensive Parts I would really love to know what the plan was for defense if we didn't get the 18mil cap hit on the eve of free agency. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

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WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: Defensive Parts How would people feel about signing Stanford routt who was cut by the chiefs on monday __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

11-07-2012, 03:48 PM	#1
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,051	Defensive Parts Last season, the Redskins defense was stellar all season long and finished with a 13th place ranking in the NFL. As we all know, the defense has regressed this season after it showed much progress last season. I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact cause. Is it the scheme, the coverages that are called, or is the problem the personnel? Haslett can't truly be the problem as the defense in the past under his watch has been better. If the problem is indeed the personnel in the secondary, then what players need to be replaced as a result? It's been said that D. Hall is not a true #1 CB and neither is Josh Wilson. Reed Doughty, while a decent fill in, can only help so much. And Madieu Williams has played more poorly than great although I credit him with a pick 6 against the Vikings weeks back. Brandon Meriweather hasn't played all season and Mike Shanahan should be blamed for signing a junky like Tanard Jackson, knowing full well that he had been in trouble with the NFL before for past offenses. Next year in the draft or/and free agency, which players do the Redskins target to fix this anemic problem? Thoughts?

11-07-2012, 04:25 PM	#2
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,418	Re: Defensive Parts Personel>coaching>scheme. 1. Orakpo loss was massive. AC as well, but not close to in terms of necessity. 2. Shanny f8cked us with personel decisions of T Jax and going with B Merriweather with the Safety plan. 3. Josh Wilson is the only stater quality CB, and he is a #2 at best. We also really have no effective #3 CB. We have a serious lack of talent in the secondary. 3-4 is not the problem, but Haslett game planning and adjustments certainly are. Keep the 3-4 scheme, change the DC and add significant starting talent at all secondary positions. Continue to build depth at NT and ILB. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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