Defense next Year

gortiz · 01-22-2005, 07:58 PM

I'm sure to eveyone's delight the Cowboys defense sucked this year, especially compared to there top rank D last year. There 2003 D was pretty damn good, and if anything they got a little better by adding Elllis.... but in 2004 they went from 2nd in points to 28, and 1st in yards to 16th! I can't find any real good reasons why...

Does anyone think our defense could hit the same wall next year??

If so, why?

and also, who has an explanation for the Dallas's Defense decline this year??

wolfeskins · 01-22-2005, 09:07 PM

i'm not sure about this but when dallas' defense was #1 didn't their cornerbacks over achieve and this year they played the way they should have.

i have to believe the skins d is gonna be pretty good next year, maybe even better than this year. with lavar back, bowen back, hopefully a pass rushing de and for the simple reason of finally another season with the same defensive coach. the big ? is smoot. if he leaves , who replaces him? i'm not sold on garnel wilds or walt harris just yet

skins009 · 01-22-2005, 09:20 PM

I Dallas D slipped real bad becuace they didn't play ANYBODY that first year. Think about it they played us twice, the giants, cardinals, Lions. Those teams just sucked and they were able to boost there ratings with good porfarmances.
I don't think our D will slip up next year, I think it will be better simply cause of the offense. They shouldn't have to play as many plays as they did this last year.

wolfeskins · 01-22-2005, 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=skins009]I don't think our D will slip up next year, I think it will be better simply cause of the offense. They shouldn't have to play as many plays as they did this last year.

great point! i hope it's true

SKINSnCANES · 01-22-2005, 09:30 PM

the cowboys lost their corners, with the exception of newman. Edwards got signed by someone else and i forget the other one. I think our D could definitly slip next year. It remains to be seen who we resign, and who we add. We'll get a better idea in the next few motnhs

SmootSmack · 01-22-2005, 09:47 PM

Also, lost in all the "Brunell is the worst offseason move ever" hoopla that surrounded us Skins fan, is the fact that Marcellus Wiley was similarly awful in Dallas. They lost Ekuban and gained Wiley (though I'm not positive Ekuban was a DE). In any case, Wiley plain sucked this year

Daseal · 01-22-2005, 09:51 PM

I think we COULD slip, but I think we'll be competitive. I'm hoping for more takeaways next year, but that may lead to more yards. Next year will be very important to see if our D stays nasty! I hope it does. As Pittsburgh has shown, ball control is important to the ranking of your defense. Pittsburgh defense is good, but certainly not the best in the league, as far as Im concerned.

As someone said above, I think the Cowboys played something like a .35% winning percentage of their opponents. So the numbers were boosted.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-23-2005, 12:21 PM

Woodsen was hurt all year and that had a hugely negative impact on the Dallas secondary AND on the ability of Roy Williams to play aggressively on running plays. That hurt the Cowboys as much as anything.

MTK · 01-23-2005, 12:32 PM

They had injury problems, plus an offense that couldn't run the ball early in the year therefore leaving the D on the field much longer.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 01-23-2005, 02:28 PM

i do'nt think the skins d will take a major hit next year.hell,unless smoot is gone,isee us better.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-23-2005, 09:25 PM

I'll trade slipping a few slots in the defensive rankings to have more turnovers/points from turnovers.

Kevikazi · 01-23-2005, 11:21 PM

Dallas' defense is very similar to ours. Blitz-heavy and relying on the secondary to cover 1-on-1. Dallas lost 2 starters in the secondary, and their replacements were getting burned when Dallas blitzed. Redskins can improve if we can resign Smoot to get a comparable replacement.

madisonwm · 01-23-2005, 11:41 PM

The reason why we will not slip very much in the defensive ranking next year is solely beacuse of Gregg Williams. Because no one player is bigger than his system as a whole, it doesn't matter who we have, as long as the system is executed efficiently (see patriots Crennel for 2001, 2003, and now 2004).

Skins fan 44 · 01-23-2005, 11:45 PM

Gotta agree with Madison as long as we have Coach Williams are D will be tough. Look how injured we were this year and we were still in the top 5. Now if only we could do that on Offense.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-24-2005, 12:05 AM

The Redskins' injury list on defense was not nearly as bad as lots of other teams - - including ones in the Super Bowl. Arrington missed games. Other than that, the defense was not missing key players.

The Redskins' defense this year was a statistical wonder but not a winner. They produced one TD for the year I believe and they gave up end-of-game drives to cost the team wins in two games against bad teams (Cleveland and Dallas).

It would be far bettr for the Skins' defense to rank 10th in yardage and much higher in points scored and "points produced from great field position" than in yards gained. They don't pay off for yardage stats.

01-22-2005, 09:30 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	the cowboys lost their corners, with the exception of newman. Edwards got signed by someone else and i forget the other one. I think our D could definitly slip next year. It remains to be seen who we resign, and who we add. We'll get a better idea in the next few motnhs __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

01-22-2005, 09:47 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Also, lost in all the "Brunell is the worst offseason move ever" hoopla that surrounded us Skins fan, is the fact that Marcellus Wiley was similarly awful in Dallas. They lost Ekuban and gained Wiley (though I'm not positive Ekuban was a DE). In any case, Wiley plain sucked this year __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-23-2005, 12:21 PM	#8
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Woodsen was hurt all year and that had a hugely negative impact on the Dallas secondary AND on the ability of Roy Williams to play aggressively on running plays. That hurt the Cowboys as much as anything. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-23-2005, 02:28 PM	#10
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	i do'nt think the skins d will take a major hit next year.hell,unless smoot is gone,isee us better. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

01-23-2005, 09:25 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	I'll trade slipping a few slots in the defensive rankings to have more turnovers/points from turnovers. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-22-2005, 07:58 PM	#1
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	Defense next Year I'm sure to eveyone's delight the Cowboys defense sucked this year, especially compared to there top rank D last year. There 2003 D was pretty damn good, and if anything they got a little better by adding Elllis.... but in 2004 they went from 2nd in points to 28, and 1st in yards to 16th! I can't find any real good reasons why... Does anyone think our defense could hit the same wall next year?? If so, why? and also, who has an explanation for the Dallas's Defense decline this year??

01-22-2005, 09:07 PM	#2
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	i'm not sure about this but when dallas' defense was #1 didn't their cornerbacks over achieve and this year they played the way they should have. i have to believe the skins d is gonna be pretty good next year, maybe even better than this year. with lavar back, bowen back, hopefully a pass rushing de and for the simple reason of finally another season with the same defensive coach. the big ? is smoot. if he leaves , who replaces him? i'm not sold on garnel wilds or walt harris just yet

01-22-2005, 09:20 PM	#3
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	I Dallas D slipped real bad becuace they didn't play ANYBODY that first year. Think about it they played us twice, the giants, cardinals, Lions. Those teams just sucked and they were able to boost there ratings with good porfarmances. I don't think our D will slip up next year, I think it will be better simply cause of the offense. They shouldn't have to play as many plays as they did this last year.

01-22-2005, 09:24 PM	#4
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	[QUOTE=skins009]I don't think our D will slip up next year, I think it will be better simply cause of the offense. They shouldn't have to play as many plays as they did this last year. great point! i hope it's true

01-22-2005, 09:51 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I think we COULD slip, but I think we'll be competitive. I'm hoping for more takeaways next year, but that may lead to more yards. Next year will be very important to see if our D stays nasty! I hope it does. As Pittsburgh has shown, ball control is important to the ranking of your defense. Pittsburgh defense is good, but certainly not the best in the league, as far as Im concerned. As someone said above, I think the Cowboys played something like a .35% winning percentage of their opponents. So the numbers were boosted.

01-23-2005, 12:32 PM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	They had injury problems, plus an offense that couldn't run the ball early in the year therefore leaving the D on the field much longer.

01-23-2005, 11:21 PM	#12
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Dallas' defense is very similar to ours. Blitz-heavy and relying on the secondary to cover 1-on-1. Dallas lost 2 starters in the secondary, and their replacements were getting burned when Dallas blitzed. Redskins can improve if we can resign Smoot to get a comparable replacement.

01-23-2005, 11:41 PM	#13
madisonwm Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 42 Posts: 29	the system, not the players The reason why we will not slip very much in the defensive ranking next year is solely beacuse of Gregg Williams. Because no one player is bigger than his system as a whole, it doesn't matter who we have, as long as the system is executed efficiently (see patriots Crennel for 2001, 2003, and now 2004).

01-23-2005, 11:45 PM	#14
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Gotta agree with Madison as long as we have Coach Williams are D will be tough. Look how injured we were this year and we were still in the top 5. Now if only we could do that on Offense. __________________ HTTR!

01-24-2005, 12:05 AM	#15
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	The Redskins' injury list on defense was not nearly as bad as lots of other teams - - including ones in the Super Bowl. Arrington missed games. Other than that, the defense was not missing key players. The Redskins' defense this year was a statistical wonder but not a winner. They produced one TD for the year I believe and they gave up end-of-game drives to cost the team wins in two games against bad teams (Cleveland and Dallas). It would be far bettr for the Skins' defense to rank 10th in yardage and much higher in points scored and "points produced from great field position" than in yards gained. They don't pay off for yardage stats. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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