Leinart staying at USC

Cush · 01-14-2005, 07:02 PM

guess he didn't want to go to SF

Gmanc711 · 01-14-2005, 07:28 PM

Just give them the Trophy now and cancel the College Football season next year.

I'm suprised he is staying, but cant fault him for doing what he really wants and not following the pressure.

itvnetop · 01-14-2005, 08:04 PM

i'm surprised myself... in the present era of makin' millions while you can, this move is pretty throw-back... matt impresses me to no end. regardless, it was a decision i wouldn't have made.

azskinsfan2 · 01-14-2005, 08:28 PM

I surely hope he doesn't get badly hurt next year,(knock on wood). Good luck to him. Wish more players would stick around like that.

Dirtbag · 01-14-2005, 08:47 PM

As a Cal fan living in Berkeley, this is terrible news. Cal beat USC two seasons ago, *should* have beaten them last season, but I don't know if we have a shot of overtaking them in the Pac-10 with Leinart back. Gotta like the kid's loyalty to his school, though.

Daseal · 01-14-2005, 08:57 PM

Leinhart could have a bad season and drop him to a low pick. He may have just cost himself millions.

FRPLG · 01-14-2005, 10:19 PM

Bad decision, just plain bad.

skin4Life28 · 01-14-2005, 10:55 PM

How can you sit and say that it was a bad decision honestly? The man is on the verge of leading his team to a third straight national championship which has never been done. He will more than likely win the heisman again, unless reggie bush or adrian peterson takes it but I doubt it. He will get his money in do time. He enjoys playing football. This is his last year to actually play football before it becomes a business not a sport. Not many people will agree with his decision nor should they its not theres. Good job Matt on doing something that you want to do and not giving in to the greed like most players.

Daseal · 01-14-2005, 11:48 PM

I'll tell you why - one injury away from having a "college degree" that he probably didn't even earn (most top notch players don't) and football is his livelyhood. Willis McGahee lost tons of cash because of his injury, luckily he was able to rehab it, but it just goes to show what one bad play can do. Not to mention, what if his role players get hurt and his stats plummit? He losses there too. I'm all for getting a degree, but these guys retired in their 30s, they can go back to school and still be treated like a god!

FRPLG · 01-15-2005, 01:33 AM

Everyone has a limit to the years left in which their talent will be sufficient to suceed at the NFL level. He is essentially wasting on of those years. And lets be honest...this has nothing to do with getting a degree...i have no idea what his status is but I'd guess he is only half a semester away from a degree either way. He'll probably end up working on grad classes to retain eligibility. This is a bad move made for the sole reason of trying to win a third National Championship and the Heisman again. That gives him what? A gerater sense of pride at most. It certainly doesn't add anything in terms of stature and draft status. His status cannot go higher at this point so this is a bad decision for him but its his call so who are we to quibble with it I guess.

aehs77 · 01-15-2005, 01:52 AM

so this essentially drops us by one pick in the draft.

saden1 · 01-15-2005, 05:04 AM

I think it's great that he stayed in school. I mean look the wonders it did for Manning. Having more college experience only helps when comes going pro. To me, him staying indicates that he is more interested in football than money. That he loves the game. If he busts his knee in the last game of the season next year I'd still picking in the first round. His accomplishments in the college ranks is too good to over look.

itvnetop · 01-15-2005, 06:57 AM

seeing matt play all year, he has great vision, decision-making ability, accuracy, and overall leadership... the knock on him is his lack of arm strength. he definitely risks dropping down in the draft next year (his stock right now is the highest it can be), but he may take the next year to get stronger. his combine performance next year may be more complete (here's praying the injury gods stay away from him).

Daseal · 01-15-2005, 08:46 AM

He could do that this offseason and still get picked #1 overall.

Defensewins · 01-15-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Everyone has a limit to the years left in which their talent will be sufficient to suceed at the NFL level. He is essentially wasting on of those years. And lets be honest...this has nothing to do with getting a degree...i have no idea what his status is but I'd guess he is only half a semester away from a degree either way. He'll probably end up working on grad classes to retain eligibility. This is a bad move made for the sole reason of trying to win a third National Championship and the Heisman again. That gives him what? A gerater sense of pride at most. It certainly doesn't add anything in terms of stature and draft status. His status cannot go higher at this point so this is a bad decision for him but its his call so who are we to quibble with it I guess.

Great post FRPLG!

USC is returnning a lot of players from the 2004 team, so his chances to win another national title and Heisman are strong.
However, he is ready to progress and take the next step as a player and playing against weak college and PAC 10 defenses is just NOT going to help him improve as a player. You are only as good as the competition you play against and college defenses are miles away from NFL defenses. He is holding back his development in a serious way for selfish reasons.."so he can say he won three titles and 2 Heisman trophies.
The main reason I do not like his choice is... a players body only has so much football mileage in it. The average NFL football players career is something like 3.5 years. He is trading one year of college for one year less of NFL. Not a smart trade off. Plus an NFL title has more weight than a NCAA title.

01-14-2005, 07:28 PM	#2
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Just give them the Trophy now and cancel the College Football season next year. I'm suprised he is staying, but cant fault him for doing what he really wants and not following the pressure. __________________ #21

01-14-2005, 08:28 PM	#4
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 67 Posts: 232	I surely hope he doesn't get badly hurt next year,(knock on wood). Good luck to him. Wish more players would stick around like that. __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

01-14-2005, 07:02 PM	#1
Cush Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 963	Leinart staying at USC guess he didn't want to go to SF

01-14-2005, 08:04 PM	#3
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	i'm surprised myself... in the present era of makin' millions while you can, this move is pretty throw-back... matt impresses me to no end. regardless, it was a decision i wouldn't have made.

01-14-2005, 08:47 PM	#5
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	As a Cal fan living in Berkeley, this is terrible news. Cal beat USC two seasons ago, should have beaten them last season, but I don't know if we have a shot of overtaking them in the Pac-10 with Leinart back. Gotta like the kid's loyalty to his school, though.

01-14-2005, 08:57 PM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Leinhart could have a bad season and drop him to a low pick. He may have just cost himself millions.

01-14-2005, 10:19 PM	#7
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Bad decision, just plain bad.

01-14-2005, 10:55 PM	#8
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	How can you sit and say that it was a bad decision honestly? The man is on the verge of leading his team to a third straight national championship which has never been done. He will more than likely win the heisman again, unless reggie bush or adrian peterson takes it but I doubt it. He will get his money in do time. He enjoys playing football. This is his last year to actually play football before it becomes a business not a sport. Not many people will agree with his decision nor should they its not theres. Good job Matt on doing something that you want to do and not giving in to the greed like most players.

01-14-2005, 11:48 PM	#9
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I'll tell you why - one injury away from having a "college degree" that he probably didn't even earn (most top notch players don't) and football is his livelyhood. Willis McGahee lost tons of cash because of his injury, luckily he was able to rehab it, but it just goes to show what one bad play can do. Not to mention, what if his role players get hurt and his stats plummit? He losses there too. I'm all for getting a degree, but these guys retired in their 30s, they can go back to school and still be treated like a god!

01-15-2005, 01:33 AM	#10
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Everyone has a limit to the years left in which their talent will be sufficient to suceed at the NFL level. He is essentially wasting on of those years. And lets be honest...this has nothing to do with getting a degree...i have no idea what his status is but I'd guess he is only half a semester away from a degree either way. He'll probably end up working on grad classes to retain eligibility. This is a bad move made for the sole reason of trying to win a third National Championship and the Heisman again. That gives him what? A gerater sense of pride at most. It certainly doesn't add anything in terms of stature and draft status. His status cannot go higher at this point so this is a bad decision for him but its his call so who are we to quibble with it I guess.

01-15-2005, 01:52 AM	#11
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 39 Posts: 486	so this essentially drops us by one pick in the draft.

01-15-2005, 05:04 AM	#12
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	I think it's great that he stayed in school. I mean look the wonders it did for Manning. Having more college experience only helps when comes going pro. To me, him staying indicates that he is more interested in football than money. That he loves the game. If he busts his knee in the last game of the season next year I'd still picking in the first round. His accomplishments in the college ranks is too good to over look.

01-15-2005, 06:57 AM	#13
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	seeing matt play all year, he has great vision, decision-making ability, accuracy, and overall leadership... the knock on him is his lack of arm strength. he definitely risks dropping down in the draft next year (his stock right now is the highest it can be), but he may take the next year to get stronger. his combine performance next year may be more complete (here's praying the injury gods stay away from him).

01-15-2005, 08:46 AM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	He could do that this offseason and still get picked #1 overall.

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