Hey Gibbs, You Need a New Playbook

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'm not going to say that Gibbs is a failure. I'm not going to say that we would be better off has Spurrier stayed with us. I'm not stupid or irrational.

However, I'm not going to blindly follow Gibbs wherever he takes us. We are fielding the worst offense in the NFC and probably in the entire league (the Dolphins are almost as pathetic). We haven't scored 20 points in 1 game! Isn't Gibbs the offensive mastermind?

I'm not sure if he knows that Ramsey is capable of throwing the ball past the first down sticks. When you are down by 14 points with 10 minutes of football left, you shouldn't be running a dink and dunk offense. This was the first game this season where I saw a good pocket formed on 9 out of 10 plays. Ramsey had the time to throw deep, the recievers have the speed to run deep, and Ramsey has the arm to throw deep. So why all the 5 yard passes? I DON'T believe that Ramsey was simply checking down.

Gibbs is about ball-control and I understand that he doesn't fully trust Ramsey right now. So, I can accept that Gibbs isn't going to call a bunch of 20 yard posts. But, when you're offense stinks, as ours did today, shouldn't you make some adjustments?

I didn't see anything in Gibbs' playcalling that told me that he has seen that his system hasn't been working, he took notice of that, and he made the appropriate changes in his playcalling. That gives me some serious pause and makes me nervous.

I don't know how everyone else feels about the playcalling, but I personally think Gibbs needs a new playbook.

[MTK]

Well, on the other hand this dink and dunk offense had us in the game for a good part of it, if it wasn't for some horrible penalties in the redzone, 12 penalties and a lot of dropped passes, who knows, maybe we pull it out.

A lack of execution on the players' part is just as much to blame right now in my opinion.

I would add a third option to the poll, the execution AND the playcalling both need to improve.

[VTSkins897]

yeah and if u arent a threat to get the ball downfield CP certainly cant do everything. 8, 9 men in the box and call it a game. whatever happened to lettin these guys make plays, threadin the needle. i understand it can be like a chess game for the coach but look at manning chuckin it through all kinds of coverge. see chad johnson just snag that rock today? i dont think we've had hardly any real playmaker type plays since the first run of the season... it sux

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I agree Matty that the players deserve a good portion of the blame for our woes. I just also feel that Gibbs' playcalling warrants some criticism.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Playcalling or not... one thing I got out of today's game was the penalties have got to stop. We had Ill Proc called enough to rewrite the definition of the violation. And when are we going to give Ray Brown the heave-ho. He's too damn old and slow to be playing OT. Give him a six-pack and a bag of chips and let him watch next week's game on TV!

[Redskins_P]

I think we learned today that no matter who our QB is, it doesn't matter. Ramsey did a good job of moving the ball, but then we had Gardner drop at least 4 passes. Samuels had at least 4 penalties himself. Gibbs was right the whole time. It's not the QB it's the whole team.....especially the O-line. And then when we do get time, receivers drop the ball. I do think that Gibbs should alter his playbook, but it all falls on the players executing....and they're not doing that. They haven't been doing that for the past 3 years.


Sorry about that rant. I'm a little f-ed up right now. I need the alcohol to numb the pain!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I agree Matty that the players deserve a good portion of the blame for our woes. I just also feel that Gibbs' playcalling warrants some criticism.

I agree, and that's what I said in my post above.

But the name of the thread is Hey Gibbs, you need a new playbook.

How about adding on to that, Hey Rod, catch some damn passes, hey Portis, catch the damn ball, hey Betts, catch the damn ball, hey Ray Brown, stop jumping offsides in the redzone, hey Ola, hit a damn FG, etc.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I can't agree with the criticism of Ray Brown. The guy held Strahan to ZERO sacks and Kearse to one sack that came on a play when Ramsey rushed up the middle. Ray Brown has done a very good job.

I thought the pass protection was the best it's been since.......Gibbs' first tenure.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I can't agree with the criticism of Ray Brown. The guy held Strahan to ZERO sacks and Kearse to one sack that came on a play when Ramsey rushed up the middle. Ray Brown has done a very good job.

I thought the pass protection was the best it's been since.......Gibbs' first tenure.

He's also KILLED us in the redzone this year with moving before the snap. To me that negates the otherwise solid job he's done. Today wasn't the first time he's pushed us back on stupid penalties inside the 10. He's making rookie mental errors.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree, and that's what I said in my post above.

But the name of the thread is Hey Gibbs, you need a new playbook.

How about adding on to that, Hey Rod, catch some damn passes, hey Portis, catch the damn ball, hey Betts, catch the damn ball, hey Ray Brown, stop jumping offsides in the redzone, hey Ola, hit a damn FG, etc.

Samuels too. He killed us in the redzone.

[rickmmrr]

Right at the begining of the game Gibbs should have had Ramsy air it out 3 or four times to get those 7 or eight guys out of the box. He should have mixed it up the entire game.

This total conservative aproach is so painfull to watch.

[WRedskins04]

I wonder if Gibbs remembers what a shotgun is??

[d151b]

Ramsey had an OK game, which is light years ahead of Brunell. I have to say that the play calling was absolutely atrocious. THE WORST. Honestly, Marty Schottenhiemer's O was not this conservative... You've gotta give Portis more touches, You've gotta try somthing other than wide receiver screens. And how about the REFEREES????!!!! Pinkston stepped out of bounds 2 yards before the 1st down marker, but apparently the refs from the MNF Cowboys game were working todays game as well. HE WAS OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! Oh and how about the Focking phantom PI call on Smoot????!!!!! The guy tripped. Just great!

I seriously think that we should receive compensation in the form of an extra first round pick next year. SERIOUSLY. How can one team be this GD cursed? I'm not going to go off on my grassy nole, but the league OWES us BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, almost forgot... I think the sheer number of dropped passes and penalties in crucial situations is just ridiculous. Thanks for ripping our collective hearts out and stomping it to death. Thanks alot.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He's also KILLED us in the redzone this year with moving before the snap. To me that negates the otherwise solid job he's done. Today wasn't the first time he's pushed us back on stupid penalties inside the 10. He's making rookie mental errors.

And I think that's mostly because he knows he's older than the guys he lines up against and is trying to get a step ahead so he doesn't get burned. He's trying to compensate for losing a step from age and sometimes he gets caught. Unfortunately for us, when he does get caught it usually kills us.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by WRedskins04

I wonder if Gibbs remembers what a shotgun is??

He doesn't use it. He briefly experimented with it in '84, but he quickly scrapped it.