So Who's the MVP?

skinsfaninok · 11-30-2009, 07:57 PM

Well since all we talk about now a days is BAD performances by our skins, I was thinking about the NFL's MVP candidates and I came up with 5 players..
I personally think Chris Johnson should win the award.. The guy was robbed of the ROY last season and he has been nothing short of amazing this yr, he has basically carried that team with 1,396 YDS rushing with 5 games left! I'm sure Favre or Manning will get it and they all deserve it honestly .. Even Rivers, that guy is a stud. What do you all think?

1. Peyton Manning
2.Drew Brees
3.Brett Favre
4. Chris Johnson
5. Phillip Rivers

mlmdub130 · 11-30-2009, 08:00 PM

i'd have to say farve, this might be the best season of his career, and if you take him off the vikes and put in jackson they are nowhere close to where they are now

but i did hear today that there was a tie one year not sure when or who but if two can win i give it to johnson and farve

but seriously farve is doing so much more than i think anyone including him ever thought he could do again, and it's great to watch

Dirtbag59 · 11-30-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i'd have to say farve, this might be the best season of his career, and if you take him off the vikes and put in jackson they are nowhere close to where they are now

but i did hear today that there was a tie one year not sure when or who but if two can win i give it to johnson and farve

but seriously farve is doing so much more than i think anyone including him ever thought he could do again, and it's great to watch

The tie was between Manning and McNair.

MTK · 11-30-2009, 08:05 PM

Really tough call, right now it's a toss up between Manning or Favre.

SFREDSKIN · 11-30-2009, 08:05 PM

Let's wait and see who makes it to the SB, that's how an MVP should be determined.

GTripp0012 · 11-30-2009, 08:10 PM

As good as Favre is playing, I don't think he should be in the MVP conversation. I think he, not Peterson, is the cog that is making the Vikings offense go, but the bigger difference there is that team is just as strong on defense as they are on offense, and they play a patsy every single week. Sure, Pittsburgh and Baltimore are quality opponents, but they have a negative net point differential against them. Favre has proved the doubters, myself included, incorrect, but his inclusion in the MVP conversation made about as makes as much sense as including Kyle Orton. Jared Allen is the most indispensable part there, IMO.

I'd say Manning deserves it, because he's clearly been more valuable than any other player, but IMO Brady is getting overlooked this year. Not that he should win it over Manning, but he's been more valuable than Favre has. I like that Chris Johnson is getting some pull, but I wouldn't put him in my top five either. I can't really separate his performance from Steven Jackson or Frank Gore or Ray Rice this year unless I go right to YPC, which is not where I'd start.

My top five:

1. QB Manning, Indianapolis
2. QB Brees, New Orleans
3. DE Allen, Minnesota
4. QB Brady, New England
5. CB Woodson, Green Bay

Honorable Mention: QB Rivers, San Diego; WR Welker, New England; TE Clark, Indianapolis

MTK · 11-30-2009, 08:13 PM

Where would the Vikes be with someone like Rosenfels at the helm?

GTripp0012 · 11-30-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Where would the Vikes be with someone like Rosenfels at the helm?

More susceptible to the occasional upset (less blowouts), but still well out in front of the NFC North, I would think.

The difference in that division is the head to head games against Green Bay, but I have to think that Minnesota would have won both of those with a more average guy at QB, the way that defense played.

I don't want to marginalize what Favre has done with that OL group in front of him. It would be potentially the weakness of that offense (Peterson's #'s are down, even with Favre helping him), but he's only getting sacked on 6% of his dropbacks, which is very good everything considered.

The Vikings should realize that when they don't have Favre anymore, they will still have to bolster the offensive line so the next guy up (Quinn?) can continue that success.

djnemo65 · 11-30-2009, 08:28 PM

Is the question who deserves it or who do we think will win it? I would personally go with Manning if I was voting, but it's hard to imagine Favre not winning if things continue to go the way they have been. And I don't think that's a pick anyone could really be that upset with.

Lotus · 11-30-2009, 08:36 PM

As of right now, with much more ball to play, I think that Favre deserves some consideration but I would argue that the Vikes would be contenders without him.

IMHO, neither the Colts nor the Saints would be performing at such a high level without Manning or Brees, and neither of these guys has Peterson. The Colts might still contend without Manning, I suppose, but I am not so sure about N.O.'s contending without Brees. The ultrahigh level on which they perform and their essential contributions to their teams' successes make Brees or Manning the choice for me.

dmek25 · 11-30-2009, 09:03 PM

we have already seen what the Vikes look like without Favre. i have him #1. with Johnson a close second

53Fan · 11-30-2009, 09:17 PM

Still a lot of ball left to play. Is Favre going to continue with his td/int ratio? To be continued....

SmootSmack · 11-30-2009, 10:34 PM

I'd have to put Manning and Favre at the top of the list most likely (interesting side note-do you realize CJ never touched the ball on the Titans' game-winning 99 yard drive?)

possibly someone like Carson Palmer as a long shot sleeper

Raw0114 · 11-30-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

we have already seen what the Vikes look like without Favre. i have him #1. with Johnson a close second

I'm on the same page but with Johnson first, Favre close second.

skinsfaninok · 11-30-2009, 10:47 PM

No doubt Johnson is the best player in the league right now... He reminds me of LT when he first came into the league... Favre and brees are both 2nd for me...

11-30-2009, 08:00 PM	#2
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,238	Re: So Who's the MVP? i'd have to say farve, this might be the best season of his career, and if you take him off the vikes and put in jackson they are nowhere close to where they are now but i did hear today that there was a tie one year not sure when or who but if two can win i give it to johnson and farve but seriously farve is doing so much more than i think anyone including him ever thought he could do again, and it's great to watch __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

11-30-2009, 08:05 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: So Who's the MVP? Really tough call, right now it's a toss up between Manning or Favre. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-30-2009, 08:05 PM	#5
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: So Who's the MVP? Let's wait and see who makes it to the SB, that's how an MVP should be determined. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

11-30-2009, 08:10 PM	#6
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: So Who's the MVP? As good as Favre is playing, I don't think he should be in the MVP conversation. I think he, not Peterson, is the cog that is making the Vikings offense go, but the bigger difference there is that team is just as strong on defense as they are on offense, and they play a patsy every single week. Sure, Pittsburgh and Baltimore are quality opponents, but they have a negative net point differential against them. Favre has proved the doubters, myself included, incorrect, but his inclusion in the MVP conversation made about as makes as much sense as including Kyle Orton. Jared Allen is the most indispensable part there, IMO. I'd say Manning deserves it, because he's clearly been more valuable than any other player, but IMO Brady is getting overlooked this year. Not that he should win it over Manning, but he's been more valuable than Favre has. I like that Chris Johnson is getting some pull, but I wouldn't put him in my top five either. I can't really separate his performance from Steven Jackson or Frank Gore or Ray Rice this year unless I go right to YPC, which is not where I'd start. My top five: 1. QB Manning, Indianapolis 2. QB Brees, New Orleans 3. DE Allen, Minnesota 4. QB Brady, New England 5. CB Woodson, Green Bay Honorable Mention: QB Rivers, San Diego; WR Welker, New England; TE Clark, Indianapolis __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

11-30-2009, 08:13 PM	#7
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11-30-2009, 07:57 PM	#1
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	So Who's the MVP? Well since all we talk about now a days is BAD performances by our skins, I was thinking about the NFL's MVP candidates and I came up with 5 players.. I personally think Chris Johnson should win the award.. The guy was robbed of the ROY last season and he has been nothing short of amazing this yr, he has basically carried that team with 1,396 YDS rushing with 5 games left! I'm sure Favre or Manning will get it and they all deserve it honestly .. Even Rivers, that guy is a stud. What do you all think? 1. Peyton Manning 2.Drew Brees 3.Brett Favre 4. Chris Johnson 5. Phillip Rivers __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-30-2009, 08:28 PM	#9
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: So Who's the MVP? Is the question who deserves it or who do we think will win it? I would personally go with Manning if I was voting, but it's hard to imagine Favre not winning if things continue to go the way they have been. And I don't think that's a pick anyone could really be that upset with.

11-30-2009, 08:36 PM	#10
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: So Who's the MVP? As of right now, with much more ball to play, I think that Favre deserves some consideration but I would argue that the Vikes would be contenders without him. IMHO, neither the Colts nor the Saints would be performing at such a high level without Manning or Brees, and neither of these guys has Peterson. The Colts might still contend without Manning, I suppose, but I am not so sure about N.O.'s contending without Brees. The ultrahigh level on which they perform and their essential contributions to their teams' successes make Brees or Manning the choice for me. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

11-30-2009, 09:03 PM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: So Who's the MVP? we have already seen what the Vikes look like without Favre. i have him #1. with Johnson a close second __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-30-2009, 09:17 PM	#12
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: So Who's the MVP? Still a lot of ball left to play. Is Favre going to continue with his td/int ratio? To be continued.... __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

11-30-2009, 10:34 PM	#13
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: So Who's the MVP? I'd have to put Manning and Favre at the top of the list most likely (interesting side note-do you realize CJ never touched the ball on the Titans' game-winning 99 yard drive?) possibly someone like Carson Palmer as a long shot sleeper __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-30-2009, 10:47 PM	#15
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: So Who's the MVP? No doubt Johnson is the best player in the league right now... He reminds me of LT when he first came into the league... Favre and brees are both 2nd for me... __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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