Laron Landry Grinds My Gears

hooskins · 09-16-2009, 12:09 AM

I have never brought this up before on this site, but I have noticed this last year, this preason, and especially vs. the giants.

Landry's lack of maturity and aggressiveness is really hurting us. It was nice at first when he got the occasional late hit, to send a message. Now it seems he is always coming in late, leading with his head, etc. That may not be a big deal to you all, but he misses A LOT of tackles because of this. He goes for the knockout, rather than the sure tackle/pick. Also he gets too many penalties. I also feel Landry's coverage has gone done because of this.

I know ST did the same, but I feel he def developed more disciple before he was tragically taken away from us all. The part that bothers me the most is how Landry talks smack after EVERY play. Even if they get a first, and he makes a crappy tackle Landry feels the need to get in their face all the time. It reminds of Smoot, who just celebrates and talks smack even when he gets burned. It is just bad to do IMO, especially if you are messing up and you have no right to talk smack.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Landry is a really good player. I do feel however he hasn't really matured in a way that can help us more than he did a couple years ago(you except steady improvement each year from a first rounder) . Those steps need to take place for him to move into the elite category, which he is more than capable of doing. It is frustrating knowing he should be one of our strong points on D, yet he still hurts the D quite a bit.

Thoughts?

wilsowilso · 09-16-2009, 12:11 AM

Dude seems like he is pretty much regressing and is just flat out angry at the world.

Kevikazi · 09-16-2009, 12:18 AM

And to think we drafted LaRon Landry when we could have gotten Adrian Peterson. Oh well...hindsight is always 20-20.

mooby · 09-16-2009, 12:20 AM

Yeah gotta agree on that one. I don't want to say he plays with too much passion but he needs to play smarter football, not harder football (bad analogy but w/e). He's always looking for the big hit or being dominant instead of going for the sure tackle, and he gets too many dumb penalties (I'd hate to count how many personal fouls he's gotten in 3 years, I'm sure its up there). I'd rather see him play smart football because I know he's capable of being an elite safety, but all the elite safeties play smart football and don't always play like everybody wronged them. He should've moved on from getting trucked by Brandon Jacobs as soon as that play was over, instead he dwelled on it and made it a point of emphasis to get back at him this game and that's why he got that dumb penalty. He's another one of those guys that needs to show more maturity and start progressing because I feel like he hasn't progressed much, if at all, since his rookie year.

WaldSkins · 09-16-2009, 12:24 AM

It would be nice to see Laron play closer to the line of scrimmage. He always comes running in like a missle to make a huge tackle but usually wiffs. How can he be a great playmaker lining up so far in the backfield that he isn't even on my tv?

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2009, 12:30 AM

Ruhskins mentioned that his lack of maturity and discipline is hurting us and I totally agree. Let's hope he cleans his act and doesn't turn into a D. Hall (supposedly he is cleaning his act, we'll see) We don't need "me" players with their own agendas, this is a team.

The Goat · 09-16-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Dude seems like he is pretty much regressing and is just flat out angry at the world.

Hard to disagree w/ this statement.

I don't see the "aggressiveness" others see in Landry either or to be more specific I don't see it when there's actually a play to be made.

hooskins · 09-16-2009, 12:34 AM

Sorry for more negativity.

I don't think Landry is bad, or the sky is falling. I just wish he controlled his emotions, gained maturity and used his skills to help us more. I mean, his closing speed is sick.

hooskins · 09-16-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Dude seems like he is pretty much regressing and is just flat out angry at the world.

I certainly hope that is not the case, because that would be really bad news....

53Fan · 09-16-2009, 01:01 AM

I'm not taking up for Landry, he has some growing up to do, but has anyone seen how many times they show that play where he gets trucked by Jacobs? One day last week I watched a show where they showed it 6 times in a row. Over and over. And this is on a local "Redskins" station! I bet they don't show Fletch knocking Jacobs ass-backwards over and over. Some of the coverage by these shows who use the, "We cover the Redskins!" to gain viewers makes me sick. The way Blache plays him, Landry acts like when he does get a chance to make contact he wants it to be a kill shot but he ends up missing more than he makes.

Lotus · 09-16-2009, 01:07 AM

Landry does need to grow up. It is not just the penalty thing or the missed tackle thing, either. He has the talent to be a force in the middle of the field. But he doesn't work hard, thus squandering his talent somewhat, leaving the middle of the field a weak part of our pass defense. He has yet to play like a #6 pick because he hasn't grown up enough to work hard.

Big C · 09-16-2009, 02:09 AM

this is a make or break year for him imo. 3rd year pro now, he needs to start showing true playmaking abilities. horton has been far better than him thus far in their careers.

GridIron26 · 09-16-2009, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big C

this is a make or break year for him imo. 3rd year pro now, he needs to start showing true playmaking abilities. horton has been far better than him thus far in their careers.

U could argue with that, I guess.. Although it's still little bit early to decide that Horton will have good year this year..

He did look good last sunday, though..

saden1 · 09-16-2009, 02:26 AM

Oh please, he's a football player. Get off of his nuts.

EternalEnigma21 · 09-16-2009, 02:42 AM

I've been bitching about his attitude and lack of discipline since he got here, and have been jumped all over because I am a big ST fan. They aren't the same. ST played football like a madman. He knocked out when appropriate and he arm tackled when he had to, and he played coverage like a hawk. Landry is too much a loose cannon. Between that and Moss getting into it I'm wondering if the leadership from the coaching staff may be lacking in the behavioral basics dept.

09-16-2009, 12:09 AM	#1
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Laron Landry Grinds My Gears I have never brought this up before on this site, but I have noticed this last year, this preason, and especially vs. the giants. Landry's lack of maturity and aggressiveness is really hurting us. It was nice at first when he got the occasional late hit, to send a message. Now it seems he is always coming in late, leading with his head, etc. That may not be a big deal to you all, but he misses A LOT of tackles because of this. He goes for the knockout, rather than the sure tackle/pick. Also he gets too many penalties. I also feel Landry's coverage has gone done because of this. I know ST did the same, but I feel he def developed more disciple before he was tragically taken away from us all. The part that bothers me the most is how Landry talks smack after EVERY play. Even if they get a first, and he makes a crappy tackle Landry feels the need to get in their face all the time. It reminds of Smoot, who just celebrates and talks smack even when he gets burned. It is just bad to do IMO, especially if you are messing up and you have no right to talk smack. Don't get me wrong, I still think Landry is a really good player. I do feel however he hasn't really matured in a way that can help us more than he did a couple years ago(you except steady improvement each year from a first rounder) . Those steps need to take place for him to move into the elite category, which he is more than capable of doing. It is frustrating knowing he should be one of our strong points on D, yet he still hurts the D quite a bit. Thoughts? __________________ Vacancy

09-16-2009, 12:11 AM	#2
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Dude seems like he is pretty much regressing and is just flat out angry at the world.

09-16-2009, 12:18 AM	#3
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears And to think we drafted LaRon Landry when we could have gotten Adrian Peterson. Oh well...hindsight is always 20-20.

09-16-2009, 12:20 AM	#4
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Yeah gotta agree on that one. I don't want to say he plays with too much passion but he needs to play smarter football, not harder football (bad analogy but w/e). He's always looking for the big hit or being dominant instead of going for the sure tackle, and he gets too many dumb penalties (I'd hate to count how many personal fouls he's gotten in 3 years, I'm sure its up there). I'd rather see him play smart football because I know he's capable of being an elite safety, but all the elite safeties play smart football and don't always play like everybody wronged them. He should've moved on from getting trucked by Brandon Jacobs as soon as that play was over, instead he dwelled on it and made it a point of emphasis to get back at him this game and that's why he got that dumb penalty. He's another one of those guys that needs to show more maturity and start progressing because I feel like he hasn't progressed much, if at all, since his rookie year.

09-16-2009, 12:24 AM	#5
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears It would be nice to see Laron play closer to the line of scrimmage. He always comes running in like a missle to make a huge tackle but usually wiffs. How can he be a great playmaker lining up so far in the backfield that he isn't even on my tv? __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

09-16-2009, 12:30 AM	#6
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Ruhskins mentioned that his lack of maturity and discipline is hurting us and I totally agree. Let's hope he cleans his act and doesn't turn into a D. Hall (supposedly he is cleaning his act, we'll see) We don't need "me" players with their own agendas, this is a team. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-16-2009, 12:34 AM	#8
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Sorry for more negativity. I don't think Landry is bad, or the sky is falling. I just wish he controlled his emotions, gained maturity and used his skills to help us more. I mean, his closing speed is sick. __________________ Vacancy

09-16-2009, 01:01 AM	#10
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears I'm not taking up for Landry, he has some growing up to do, but has anyone seen how many times they show that play where he gets trucked by Jacobs? One day last week I watched a show where they showed it 6 times in a row. Over and over. And this is on a local "Redskins" station! I bet they don't show Fletch knocking Jacobs ass-backwards over and over. Some of the coverage by these shows who use the, "We cover the Redskins!" to gain viewers makes me sick. The way Blache plays him, Landry acts like when he does get a chance to make contact he wants it to be a kill shot but he ends up missing more than he makes. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

09-16-2009, 01:07 AM	#11
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Landry does need to grow up. It is not just the penalty thing or the missed tackle thing, either. He has the talent to be a force in the middle of the field. But he doesn't work hard, thus squandering his talent somewhat, leaving the middle of the field a weak part of our pass defense. He has yet to play like a #6 pick because he hasn't grown up enough to work hard. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

09-16-2009, 02:09 AM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears this is a make or break year for him imo. 3rd year pro now, he needs to start showing true playmaking abilities. horton has been far better than him thus far in their careers. __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

09-16-2009, 02:26 AM	#14
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears Oh please, he's a football player. Get off of his nuts. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-16-2009, 02:42 AM	#15
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Laron Landry Grinds My Gears I've been bitching about his attitude and lack of discipline since he got here, and have been jumped all over because I am a big ST fan. They aren't the same. ST played football like a madman. He knocked out when appropriate and he arm tackled when he had to, and he played coverage like a hawk. Landry is too much a loose cannon. Between that and Moss getting into it I'm wondering if the leadership from the coaching staff may be lacking in the behavioral basics dept. __________________ I am the brute squad.

Laron Landry Grinds My Gears

Locker Room Main Forum