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Old 09-04-2009, 03:38 PM   #1
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Zorn Makes Great Progress with New Offense Geared To Campbells Talents

I am so glad that Zorn has tailored the offense to Campbell's talents. I thought that Joe Gibbs made a huge mistake hiring Saunders, because Campbell's talents were best suited to Joe Gibbs vertical style of offense. He is a deep ball passer like Mark Rypien. The west coast offense was never suited to his talents. I think that if they go with this down field vertical passing game there is hope for Campbell staying in Washington and taking us to the promise land. With the emergence of Mitchell, Kelly and Thomas, along with Moss, we should be a big play powerhouse.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:45 PM   #2
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I think Campbell know's the offense better has lots of weapons and wants to be a Redskin.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:48 PM   #3
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I think there's a difference between tailoring his offense and taking more shots downfield. Besides we won't know how much he's done either way until the regular starts. I suspect that Zorn is still married to the WCO. Some new wrinkles maybe, but I think fundamentally we'll see the same offense we saw last year.

That being said, Clinton Portis will continue to be the centerpiece of this offense. If Portis doesn't log somewhere between 1,300 and 1,500 yards this season, I'm not sure how successful Zorn will be or how far the Skins go. Yes, the emergence of Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell will help, but this is still CP's offense as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:51 PM   #4
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I think there's a difference between tailoring his offense and taking more shots downfield. Besides we won't know how much he's done either way until the regular starts. I suspect that Zorn is still married to the WCO. Some new wrinkles maybe, but I think fundamentally we'll see the same offense we saw last year.

That being said, Clinton Portis will continue to be the centerpiece of this offense. If Portis doesn't log somewhere between 1,300 and 1,500 yards this season, I'm not sure how successful Zorn will be or how far the Skins go. Yes, the emergence of Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell will help, but this is still CP's offense as far as I'm concerned.
Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...
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The deep passing game definitely has to be there this year, otherwise we're going to struggle to score again. You've gotta have those explosive plays.
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Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...

Not really. Last year you had a total of five running backs go over 1,300 yards. The vast majority didn't even break a 1,000 yards. The two teams that played in the Super Bowl didn't have one guy go over 800 yards.

Obviously the Redskins are put together much differently than those teams I just mentioned, but the point is we lived or died with Portis last year. And while I think we've improved some this time around, I don't see a big departure in the number of carries Portis will get.
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With the emergence of Mitchell, Kelly and Thomas, along with Moss, we should be a big play powerhouse.
The missing element to that is time. If Zorn and Campbell and these players are given multiple seasons to play together and get some consistency between player personnel and coaches, then the offense could mature into something special. Hopefully the team will have the patience to stick to a long term plan, but the reality is that the offense needs to make big strides this year or else.
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Obviously the Redskins are put together much differently than those teams I just mentioned, but the point is we lived or died with Portis last year. .
I don't know if we lived or died with Portis last year. His rushing yards may have been more of a reflection of the offense's capabilities rather than the backbone upon which is all rested. In other words, we need to be careful between recognizing a correlation and identifying a cause and effect. Arguably, the offense didn't fail in the second half last year because Portis couldn't get going, but rather Portis couldn't get going because the line couldn't protect the passing game and opposing defenses simply stacked the box as a result.
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I don't know if we lived or died with Portis last year. His rushing yards may have been more of a reflection of the offense's capabilities rather than the backbone upon which is all rested. In other words, we need to be careful between recognizing a correlation and identifying a cause and effect. Arguably, the offense didn't fail in the second half last year because Portis couldn't get going, but rather Portis couldn't get going because the line couldn't protect the passing game and opposing defenses simply stacked the box as a result.
I'll buy that too. The larger point I'm making is if Portis rushes for 800 yards last year, we're not even 8-8.
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Interesting what Vinny had to say about Mason and Alridge. I've been calling for shots down the field since last year. I think we have the time and personell to make something of it now. Being in the second year and getting our basics down helps us to expand the "O". Looking forward to spreading the field this season.
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I'll buy that too. The larger point I'm making is if Portis rushes for 800 yards last year, we're not even 8-8.
Agree 100%. What i like the most is teams know we are trying the long ball so they will have to defend against it and as long as we pick the right time to throw it life will be good.
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The deep passing game definitely has to be there this year, otherwise we're going to struggle to score again. You've gotta have those explosive plays.
To this day, I still wonder what would have happened if wide-open rapper/model/wide receiver (yes, wide receiver comes last, and thats not a testement to his rapping or modeling abilities), Brandon Lloyd had caught that long bomb that Campbell threw right into his hands to open the 2007 season... it could have sparked this team to go on to great things. Instead, the ball went right through his hands and it seemed like Gibbs gave up on deep plays for the rest of the season. Gibbs might still be here; Campbell would be entering his 3rd year in the same offensive system; hell ST might not have even died. Yes, in case your wondering, I do blame Brandon Lloyd for all that is wrong in the world.
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To this day, I still wonder what would have happened if wide-open rapper/model/wide receiver (yes, wide receiver comes last, and thats not a testement to his rapping or modeling abilities), Brandon Lloyd had caught that long bomb that Campbell threw right into his hands to open the 2007 season... it could have sparked this team to go on to great things. Instead, the ball went right through his hands and it seemed like Gibbs gave up on deep plays for the rest of the season. Gibbs might still be here; Campbell would be entering his 3rd year in the same offensive system; hell ST might not have even died. Yes, in case your wondering, I do blame Brandon Lloyd for all that is wrong in the world.
It may not be proper attribution, but Brandon Lloyd certainly deserves it.
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Every team and every offense needs their RB(s) to run for 1300-1500 yards...
except for Arizona last year
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