Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown

MTK · 03-13-2009, 03:51 PM

I missed this but sounds like it was pretty good, anyone catch it? I'll have to wait til later to watch.

ABC News: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown

GMScud · 03-13-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I missed this but sounds like it was pretty good, anyone catch it? I'll have to wait til later to watch.

ABC News: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown

I watched it. Brutal. Cramer got bulldozed. It was so rough it was almost uncomfortable to watch. The interview actually ran longer than the time slot allowed, so they had to edit out parts of it. The unedited interview is supposed to be posted on Comedy Central's website today, but I haven't checked for it yet.

70Chip · 03-13-2009, 04:14 PM

There may be an argument that CNBC is really awful, but I just wonder why Stewie never made it until someone on the network criticized Obama? Did they just start being awful 5 minutes ago? He'll run and hide behind "We're just a comedy show", but the truth is, he sees himself as a kind of cultural enforcer. If anyone steps out of line, he's going to come running around the corner to wack you over the head with his comedy schtick. Everybody get and line and shut up.

saden1 · 03-13-2009, 04:17 PM

It was an awesome take-down, one worthy of legendary status. Cramer's attempt to b.s. and lie his way through was comical at times but over all he took his beating like a man child.

saden1 · 03-13-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

There may be an argument that CNBC is really awful, but I just wonder why Stewie never made it until someone on the network criticized Obama? Did they just start being awful 5 minutes ago? He'll run and hide behind "We're just a comedy show", but the truth is, he sees himself as a kind of cultural enforcer. If anyone steps out of line, he's going to come running around the corner to wack you over the head with his comedy schtick. Everybody get and line and shut up.

It all started thanks to Rick Santelli "losers" comments.

Speaking of culture "enforcers," you have your Jonah Goldberg and we have our Jon Stewart. We love Stewie because he doesn't say things like "the scorpion must sting the frog."

70Chip · 03-13-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

It all started thanks to Rick Santelli "losers" comments.

Speaking of culture "enforcers," you have your Jonah Goldberg and we have our Jon Stewart. We love Stewie because he doesn't say things like "the scorpion must sting the frog."

I'm just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.

SmootSmack · 03-13-2009, 05:00 PM

I personally enjoy watching them both (though Colbert is King).

dblanch66 · 03-13-2009, 05:20 PM

How many "republican" or "right wing" comedians are there? Just curious.

saden1 · 03-13-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

I'm just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.

I asked a cop once why he was giving me a speeding ticket seeing how there were people on the road going faster. You know what he said? I can't catch all the fish in the sea, I caught a fish and you're that fish son.

Stewie is fine, $14 million a year for doing basic cable isn't really that bad.

saden1 · 03-13-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dblanch66

How many "republican" or "right wing" comedians are there? Just curious.

Intentionally or unintentionally?

70Chip · 03-13-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

I asked a cop once why he was giving me a speeding ticket seeing how there were people on the road going faster. You know what he said? I can't catch all the fish in the sea, I caught a fish and you're that fish son.

Stewie is fine, $14 million a year for doing basic cable isn't really that bad.

If the cop had said, "Because you have anti-Obama bumper sticker", it would be a truer analogy.

The Goat · 03-13-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Intentionally or unintentionally?

Priceless, just priceless.

Dennis Miller is the only intentional one I could muster... there's about a thousand of the other kind.

That Guy · 03-13-2009, 10:02 PM

it really wasn't stewart vs cramer though.

cramer was open to trying new things on his show, but stewart was mainly bashing the cozy coverage CNBC had of all those overleveraged companies' CEOs and then having rick turn around and say the blame lies entirely with the people who couldn't afford the houses (as if the banks that thought financing that venture weren't in any way at fault for part of the mess).

CNBC is an ENTERTAINMENT channel. CNN did real news 24/7, and you know what happened? the ratings started to tank against the entertainment/biased news channels (fox news etc), so the "old" news-core CNN died, and now, outside of the BBC, the news channels are all competing for ad dollars just like MTV or ABC etc.

if CNBC did what stewart suggested, they'd tank their ratings and lose their ad revenue. sad but true, they make money off ads, not news, so the whole reporting real news thing isn't as important as getting people to tune in by whatever means necessary.

it was kind of a faulty/unfair argument in that it's not based in reality. CNBC is NOT the SEC.

That Guy · 03-13-2009, 10:04 PM

that said, it was worth bringing to everyone's attention, but i doubt it changes much.

saden1 · 03-13-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

I'm just pointing out that Stewart never had a problem with CNBC until someone said something mean about his messiah.

And if David Letterman doesn't retire soon, Stewie is going to start looking like Prince Charles. He'll be 80 years old before he gets that show.

If you're going to insult the man's integrity at least have the decency to conduct due diligence and insure that you're not liable.

1. Stewie's Jan 2002 interview with Ron Insana (part 1 and part 2).
2. Stewie's March 2004 segment on Martha Steward securities fraud reporting (act 1 and act 2).

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70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown There may be an argument that CNBC is really awful, but I just wonder why Stewie never made it until someone on the network criticized Obama? Did they just start being awful 5 minutes ago? He'll run and hide behind "We're just a comedy show", but the truth is, he sees himself as a kind of cultural enforcer. If anyone steps out of line, he's going to come running around the corner to wack you over the head with his comedy schtick. Everybody get and line and shut up. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

03-13-2009, 04:17 PM	#4
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown It was an awesome take-down, one worthy of legendary status. Cramer's attempt to b.s. and lie his way through was comical at times but over all he took his beating like a man child. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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03-13-2009, 10:02 PM	#13
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown it really wasn't stewart vs cramer though. cramer was open to trying new things on his show, but stewart was mainly bashing the cozy coverage CNBC had of all those overleveraged companies' CEOs and then having rick turn around and say the blame lies entirely with the people who couldn't afford the houses (as if the banks that thought financing that venture weren't in any way at fault for part of the mess). CNBC is an ENTERTAINMENT channel. CNN did real news 24/7, and you know what happened? the ratings started to tank against the entertainment/biased news channels (fox news etc), so the "old" news-core CNN died, and now, outside of the BBC, the news channels are all competing for ad dollars just like MTV or ABC etc. if CNBC did what stewart suggested, they'd tank their ratings and lose their ad revenue. sad but true, they make money off ads, not news, so the whole reporting real news thing isn't as important as getting people to tune in by whatever means necessary. it was kind of a faulty/unfair argument in that it's not based in reality. CNBC is NOT the SEC.

03-13-2009, 10:04 PM	#14
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown that said, it was worth bringing to everyone's attention, but i doubt it changes much.

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