Anyone still think Portis "was a product of Denver's system"?

redrock-skins · 09-12-2004, 07:29 PM

I heard a lot of talk out here from non-Skins fans, that he will not put up the numbers he did in Denver and that he was good, but a product of Denver's "system". I take nothing away from Shanahan, but Portis really is "that damn good"!

SKINSnCANES · 09-12-2004, 07:35 PM

hes a product of the Miami Hurricanes (and perhaps genetic altering on test tube babies, a theory I have aobut UM players). Enough said

That Guy · 09-12-2004, 07:42 PM

163yds clearly shows he's nothing more than another denver back

at that rate we're looking at 2,400 rushing yds this season... everyone should shut up with that crap now.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-12-2004, 07:59 PM

I don't think that Portis was simply a product of the Broncos' system; he is a tremendous back.

However, I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed with the run-blocking today. Portis had a great game and I do not mean to take anything away from him. But, if you take away the 64-yard TD run, he was averaging about 2.5 yards per carry. I wasn't too pleased with that.

MTK · 09-12-2004, 08:12 PM

Only the haters believed that he was a product of Denver's system, and I don't think that they believed it either deep down.

MTK · 09-12-2004, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I don't think that Portis was simply a product of the Broncos' system; he is a tremendous back.

However, I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed with the run-blocking today. Portis had a great game and I do not mean to take anything away from him. But, if you take away the 64-yard TD run, he was averaging about 2.5 yards per carry. I wasn't too pleased with that.

Running on the Bucs D isn't an easy thing to do, considering we put up 166 yards on their run D that's nothing to be ashamed about.

Winskins · 09-12-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Running on the Bucs D isn't an easy thing to do, considering we put up 166 yards on their run D that's nothing to be ashamed about.

I have to agree, could you imagine having Trung back there! :vomit-smi
Portis is definitely the real deal. One of the amazing things I realized about him today is that he runs faster sideways than most people do period. INfreakingCREDIBLE!

GoSkins! · 09-12-2004, 09:18 PM

Now I'll just be glad that Portis will be making his yards as a product of the Gibbs offensive system. Tampa Bays D is for real. Don't think for a second that they did not do everything they could to prepare for that game. Still, Portis rushes for over 140 yards...

What I think is nice is that he got them even with the Skins offense not totally clicking. Just wait till we get a few games into the season!

exit0 · 09-12-2004, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Running on the Bucs D isn't an easy thing to do, considering we put up 166 yards on their run D that's nothing to be ashamed about.

Yeah... exactly. The Bucs were playing tremendous D in this game as well. Anybody with any common sense and/or football knowledge knows that Portis is the real deal and a great running back... he simply is.

And while his average isn't great taking that first run away, the thing that really impressed me with him was at the end of the game when he got the big yards and big first downs to keep the clock moving and put the game away.

hurrykaine · 09-12-2004, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I don't think that Portis was simply a product of the Broncos' system; he is a tremendous back.

However, I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed with the run-blocking today. Portis had a great game and I do not mean to take anything away from him. But, if you take away the 64-yard TD run, he was averaging about 2.5 yards per carry. I wasn't too pleased with that.

Unduly harsh judgement on the run blocking IMHO - usually, when a back runs for a 150 yards, there's 1-2 long runs in there. I think it's unfair to take out those two runs from the total rushing and point out the low avg yards per carry on the remaining rushes. You almost never see a case where someone has 30 carries for 150 yards that comprises 30 runs for 5 yards each.

Also, as was rightly pointed out by someone else, this was TB we ran for 166 yards against - pretty damn good considering their run defense.

Further, atleast 6-7 carries that Portis had came right at the end when our objective was to get short runs to get first downs and run out the clock. So, if you take away those 6-7 small yard carries at the end along with the 64 yd run, he had about 21 carries for 80-84 yards, which is a pretty decent yards per carry.

cpayne5 · 09-12-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winskins

One of the amazing things I realized about him today is that he runs faster sideways than most people do period. INfreakingCREDIBLE!

Exactly. His acceleration and moves were amazing.

jrocx69 · 09-12-2004, 10:36 PM

to all the bowen haters.... lol ... i told ya from the start he's not to bad

2 sacks and some hard ass hittin'

redwagonskins · 09-12-2004, 11:31 PM

what is amazing is the broncos plug a 5'8" 190lb RB in there tonight and he is running it pretty well.
Don't get me wrong, Portis is an amazing talent and the real deal but:
talent + scheme = 149yds

BrunellFan · 09-12-2004, 11:42 PM

Portis is one of the best backs in the league, no question. The only thing that I dont like about him is his tendancies to have these really bad carries where he loses like 5 yards. We never had to worry about that with Stephen Davis. Im not saying SD > CP, but just putting it out there.

itvnetop · 09-12-2004, 11:57 PM

I'm not going to even start comparing Griffin to Portis, but Quentin ain't lookin' too shabby tonight. Then again, it's KC's defense.

09-12-2004, 07:29 PM	#1
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	Anyone still think Portis "was a product of Denver's system"? I heard a lot of talk out here from non-Skins fans, that he will not put up the numbers he did in Denver and that he was good, but a product of Denver's "system". I take nothing away from Shanahan, but Portis really is "that damn good"!

09-12-2004, 07:35 PM	#2
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	hes a product of the Miami Hurricanes (and perhaps genetic altering on test tube babies, a theory I have aobut UM players). Enough said __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

09-12-2004, 11:42 PM	#14
BrunellFan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 334	Portis is one of the best backs in the league, no question. The only thing that I dont like about him is his tendancies to have these really bad carries where he loses like 5 yards. We never had to worry about that with Stephen Davis. Im not saying SD > CP, but just putting it out there. __________________ RIP Mark

09-12-2004, 07:42 PM	#3
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	163yds clearly shows he's nothing more than another denver back at that rate we're looking at 2,400 rushing yds this season... everyone should shut up with that crap now.

09-12-2004, 07:59 PM	#4
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	I don't think that Portis was simply a product of the Broncos' system; he is a tremendous back. However, I have to say that I was somewhat disappointed with the run-blocking today. Portis had a great game and I do not mean to take anything away from him. But, if you take away the 64-yard TD run, he was averaging about 2.5 yards per carry. I wasn't too pleased with that.

09-12-2004, 08:12 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Only the haters believed that he was a product of Denver's system, and I don't think that they believed it either deep down.

09-12-2004, 09:18 PM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Now I'll just be glad that Portis will be making his yards as a product of the Gibbs offensive system. Tampa Bays D is for real. Don't think for a second that they did not do everything they could to prepare for that game. Still, Portis rushes for over 140 yards... What I think is nice is that he got them even with the Skins offense not totally clicking. Just wait till we get a few games into the season!

09-12-2004, 10:36 PM	#12
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 43 Posts: 461	to all the bowen haters.... lol ... i told ya from the start he's not to bad 2 sacks and some hard ass hittin'

09-12-2004, 11:31 PM	#13
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	what is amazing is the broncos plug a 5'8" 190lb RB in there tonight and he is running it pretty well. Don't get me wrong, Portis is an amazing talent and the real deal but: talent + scheme = 149yds

09-12-2004, 11:57 PM	#15
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	I'm not going to even start comparing Griffin to Portis, but Quentin ain't lookin' too shabby tonight. Then again, it's KC's defense.

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