Michael Irvin's Three Greatest WRs

[SmootSmack]

Anyone else see ESPN's Monday Night Countdown and Michael Irvin's list of the Three Greatest WRs ever, in his opinion?

1) Jerry Rice (no argument there)
2) Andre Reed (um....)
3) Michael Irvin (his middle name must be Modest )

Stu Scott, Tom Jackson, and Jaws gave him an especially hard time about Andre Reed at no. 2

Irvin's justification was the purpose of playing football is to win and Reed made it to 4 Super Bowls.

Jackson shut him up fast when he said, "Reed won zero and Art Monk won 3"

[redwagonskins]

I thought it was idiotic. Obviously, Irvin only put up people he had heard about recently. What about Monk, Steve Largent, Swan....
His QB picks were messed up too. I agree with Montana and Unitas but Elway being the greatest athlete at the position? C'mon. How about Sammy Baugh, Staubach, Bart Star, Jurgenson or Marino as all time greats? Don't get me wrong, I like Elway too but it seems like these guys would all give him a run for his money.

[SmootSmack]

I thought Jaws did the 3 greatest QBs, but I hear what you're saying

[redwagonskins]

You are correct, sir!! It was still idiotic but at least he didn't put himself on there.

[jbcjr14]

Once again there is definitive proof that drugs do hinder your ability to judge others!!!!

[MTK]

I think he's still on the pipe

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by jbcjr14

Once again there is definitive proof that drugs do hinder your ability to judge others!!!!

So the fact that my wife gets high to help with her chemo treatments hinders her the ability to judge people. WRONG!!! Lets just say Michael has a ego issue. He was good but not one of the top 3. Andre Reed was also not a top 3 but at least he was a Redskin at one time.
Bilitnikoff
Rice
Swann/Monk
would be my choices. So many to choose from though it is really hard to come up with 3. But not Irvin.

[EEich]

The playmaker was allegedly doing more than pot. And yes, the extended use of some drugs, especially the ones that he is reputed to have used, have been known to do irreversible brain damage.

I empathize for your wife's need to light up to smooth out the chemo, but you might want to keep that on the QT... it's still illegal most places. You wouldn't want LE cuffing your wife and bringing her downtown, would you?

Originally Posted by CRT3

So the fact that my wife gets high to help with her chemo treatments hinders her the ability to judge people. WRONG!!! Lets just say Michael has a ego issue. He was good but not one of the top 3. Andre Reed was also not a top 3 but at least he was a Redskin at one time.
Bilitnikoff
Rice
Swann/Monk
would be my choices. So many to choose from though it is really hard to come up with 3. But not Irvin.

[Hogskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think he's still on the pipe

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, watching his hyper performances on that show, you would think so. (I try to avoid that show because of him - he destroys it).

[jbcjr14]

CRT3, sorry about the wife bro, my deepest sympathies. However, drugs do fry the brain, its scientifically proven. Irvin is just a flaming idiot with very few brain cells left....and yes, he probably still is on the pipe!

[ChounsMan]

So I guess just because Henry Ellard didn't win a SB he's not worthy to be in the elite 3 even though he was one of the best route runners to ever rocket off the line.

Reed's postseason numbers are really good compared to Ellard, but I think Ellard was a better route runner.

Reed's Postseason Stats:

Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1988 hou W,17-10 | 1 -1 0 | 6 91 0
1988 cin L,10-21 | 0 0 0 | 5 55 1
1989 cle L,30-34 | 0 0 0 | 6 115 1
1990 mia W,44-34 | 0 0 0 | 4 123 2
1990 rai W,51-3 | 0 0 0 | 2 29 0
*1990 nyg L,19-20 | 0 0 0 | 8 62 0
1991 kan W,37-14 | 1 6 0 | 4 100 2
1991 den W,10-7 | 1 16 0 | 2 19 0
*1991 was L,24-37 | 0 0 0 | 5 34 0
1992 hou W,41-38 | 0 0 0 | 8 136 3
1992 pit W,24-3 | 1 -8 0 | 0 0 0
1992 mia W,29-10 | 2 6 0 | 3 25 0
*1992 dal L,17-52 | 0 0 0 | 8 152 0
1993 rai W,29-23 | 0 0 0 | 4 53 0
1993 kan W,30-13 | 1 8 0 | 4 49 0
*1993 dal L,13-30 | 0 0 0 | 6 75 0
1995 pit L,21-40 | 0 0 0 | 2 20 0
1996 jax L,27-30 | 0 0 0 | 3 32 0
1998 mia L,17-24 | 0 0 0 | 5 60 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 7 27 0 | 85 1230 9


Ellard's Postseason Stats:

Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1983 dal W,24-17 | 0 0 0 | 1 22 0
1983 was L,7-51 | 0 0 0 | 3 39 0
1984 nyg L,13-16 | 0 0 0 | 2 22 0
1985 dal W,20-0 | 0 0 0 | 2 33 0
1985 chi L,0-24 | 0 0 0 | 1 5 0
1986 was L,7-19 | 0 0 0 | 1 14 0
1988 min L,17-28 | 1 2 0 | 4 54 0
1989 phi W,21-7 | 0 0 0 | 4 87 1
1989 nyg W,19-13 | 0 0 0 | 8 125 0
1989 sfo L,3-30 | 0 0 0 | 2 18 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 1 2 0 | 28 419 1

[Drift Reality]

Actually, I don't think we can lump pot and crack into the collective heading of "drugs." This is apples and oranges. Cocaine is a narcotic stimulant and pot is a low-level hallucinogen.

The active ingredients in Pot have not been scientifically proven to damage brain cells to the extent that ethanol (in alcohol) has; and probably both alcohol and marijuana do far less damage to someone's brain than crack.

Basically, I think doing crack for a sustained amount of time would lead to idiotic remarks that come out of Michael Irvin's mouth with regularity; on the other hand, a patient who takes marijuana in a therapeutic manner would probably have no serious impairments to his/her judgment and would realize that the top three receivers of all time are:

1. Jerry Rice
2. Lynn Swann
3. Charley Taylor

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

Actually, I don't think we can lump pot and crack into the collective heading of "drugs." This is apples and oranges. Cocaine is a narcotic stimulant and pot is a low-level hallucinogen.

The active ingredients in Pot have not been scientifically proven to damage brain cells to the extent that ethanol (in alcohol) has; and probably both alcohol and marijuana do far less damage to someone's brain than crack.

Basically, I think doing crack for a sustained amount of time would lead to idiotic remarks that come out of Michael Irvin's mouth with regularity; on the other hand, a patient who takes marijuana in a therapeutic manner would probably have no serious impairments to his/her judgment and would realize that the top three receivers of all time are:

1. Jerry Rice
2. Lynn Swann
3. Charley Taylor

Very well put I fully agree with you.

Eelch please don't tell me to keep it on the QT. This is reality man and it is in fact only a $100.00 fine in the state of MD. So I don't think we have to worry about the cuffs. I also don't think it is right to make assumptions on peoples lives like Mr. Irvin. He did get busted in the past but it is unfair for us to judge what we don't know. Stick to disagreeing with his picks and not making judgments where you have no factual knowledge. Who would be your picks for top 3 recievers? Or maybe just pick the 3 biggest egos in football

[EEich]

Plenty of people express opinions based on assumptions on this website, and I reserve the right to do so in the future. My assumption was only about Mr. Irving's past use in this case and I believe it was warranted.

I didn't say that I wouldn't be smoking if I was in you're wife's place... I just wouldn't want my spouse posting about it on a public board. I really hope your wife does well. I have some close friends going through the same thing... and I know how difficult it has been for them.

Originally Posted by CRT3

Very well put I fully agree with you.

Eelch please don't tell me to keep it on the QT. This is reality man and it is in fact only a $100.00 fine in the state of MD. So I don't think we have to worry about the cuffs. I also don't think it is right to make assumptions on peoples lives like Mr. Irvin. He did get busted in the past but it is unfair for us to judge what we don't know. Stick to disagreeing with his picks and not making judgments where you have no factual knowledge. Who would be your picks for top 3 recievers? Or maybe just pick the 3 biggest egos in football

[jbcjr14]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Very well put I fully agree with you.

Eelch please don't tell me to keep it on the QT. This is reality man and it is in fact only a $100.00 fine in the state of MD. So I don't think we have to worry about the cuffs. I also don't think it is right to make assumptions on peoples lives like Mr. Irvin. He did get busted in the past but it is unfair for us to judge what we don't know. Stick to disagreeing with his picks and not making judgments where you have no factual knowledge. Who would be your picks for top 3 recievers? Or maybe just pick the 3 biggest egos in football

QT, the "reality" of it is that he was/is a habitual crack/coke user and has been busted on more than one occassion. Once a user always an abuser, especially for that idiot. I don't know if he is a user now, but just like an alcoholic, they are always an alcoholic and are never cured of the disease. This is my opinion, and I am entitled to think that drugs cause him to say stupid garbage at times...that is my constitutional right.