Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache

Paintrain · 08-28-2008, 10:50 AM

First let me say that Mike Wise is quickly becoming one of my favorite newspaper writers. This article about Snyder's courting of Blache and the implications on Gregg Williams is really fascinating. It's a long read, but well worth it..

washingtonpost.com

MTK · 08-28-2008, 10:56 AM

Wise always pumps out good stuff.

Good read, Danny usually gets what he wants. And it's interesting to hear that it wasn't money that brought Blache back.

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"I got a minuscule [raise], literally minuscule," Blache said of Snyder's offer. "That night, he said, 'This is what I'm offering you because you've always been overpaid.' I said, 'All right, that's a real recruiting line.'

"Look, he's honest, he's real and he's got a heart nobody understands. He sold me on not having a Super Bowl ring and being there for the players and coaches. For me to come back and have a chance to get him a ring and help the players get a ring is a mission of mine and it's something that appealed to me. He didn't appeal to my mercenary side at all -- at all. He went strictly to the things that emotionally touched me."

FRPLG · 08-28-2008, 11:05 AM

I think they honestly felt like Williams wasn't the right guy for the job. I hope Grills and Blache can work it out. They both seem like decent guys.

KLHJ2 · 08-28-2008, 11:10 AM

I love this part

"I got a minuscule [raise], literally minuscule," Blache said of Snyder's offer. "That night, he said, 'This is what I'm offering you because you've always been overpaid.' I said, 'All right, that's a real recruiting line.'

Edit: Matty beat me to it, but that doesn't change my feelings about it.

MTK · 08-28-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think they honestly felt like Williams wasn't the right guy for the job. I hope Grills and Blache can work it out. They both seem like decent guys.

I can see where GW wasn't too happy with Blache but he should really cut him some slack. Blache was simply stuck in the middle. If anything Danny should have told GW about his decision prior to talking with Blache.

From the sound of it GW didn't have much of a chance for the job right from the start. And that's fine. You have to surround yourself with people that YOU trust and can work with. But why didn't they just cut him loose rather than dragging it out? That's my only gripe with that process.

dmek25 · 08-28-2008, 11:20 AM

what is the deal with Williams? the guy has a great defensive mind, but cant sell himself to be head coach. wonder why?

Daseal · 08-28-2008, 11:24 AM

Wasnt part of the equation that Williams wanted the type of HC / GM role that fails miserably for most teams and we wanted Cerrato to have control over the FO?

irish · 08-28-2008, 11:27 AM

That's funny because I think Wise is the worst of the Post's sports columnists. First he was trying to be Tony Kornheiser Jr. and that failed miserably. Now I guess he's trying to be Mr. Insider. I hope it works out better for him.

That said it was a good article.

MTK · 08-28-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Wasnt part of the equation that Williams wanted the type of HC / GM role that fails miserably for most teams and we wanted Cerrato to have control over the FO?

Yeah I think the amount of control he wanted was a factor. But something tells me that GW was never seriously in the running regardless of the power he wanted.

redsk1 · 08-28-2008, 11:45 AM

Good article. I guess Snyder wanted Blache to commit before he let GW go. He didn't want to be left empty handed. I'm sure these sorts of things go on in most NFL hiring situations. Granted, Snyder, handles things a little differently, but let's see how this one pans out.

I still think GW was the right guy for the job, but hey what do i know. GW's has recently said he wants to coach again and that if the opportunity ever presents itself he would return to DC. Outwardly, it doesn't seem like he holds any illwill.

I do like Greg Blache but as i've said before i'd feel a little more comfortable right about now w/ a GW run D.

FRPLG · 08-28-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

From the sound of it GW didn't have much of a chance for the job right from the start. And that's fine. You have to surround yourself with people that YOU trust and can work with. But why didn't they just cut him loose rather than dragging it out? That's my only gripe with that process.

I agree. I wish they had been a little less cloak and daggerish with respect to Grills. All they needed to say was "We are going to do a thorough search and interview the best candidates. We anticipate that Gregg will be part of that process." And then do an interview and cut him loose. Leaving him hanging out in space looked real bad and made it seem like they were clueless when in fact I think they were very well organized and did a good job vetting and finding solid solutions.

hail_2_da_skins · 08-28-2008, 12:47 PM

The whole replacing Joe Gibbs and staff was handled badly. By hiring the assistants before hiring the head coach sort of undermined the whole process. Any good head coaching candidate would want to hire his own staff. I think the Skins hurt themselves by doing the process ass backwards. Even though I think the hiring was done badly, I think in the long run, Jim Zorn looks worthy of an opportunity.

skinsfan69 · 08-28-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

what is the deal with Williams? the guy has a great defensive mind, but cant sell himself to be head coach. wonder why?

He sold himself 3/4 years by fielding a top 10 defense with average players & carrying a team with a below average offense. If Snyder didn't want GW then fine. Just tell the guy. Don't be an a-hole and leave the guy hanging for two weeks. Very very unprofessional by Snyder.

Warren85Ellard · 08-28-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I agree. I wish they had been a little less cloak and daggerish with respect to Grills. All they needed to say was "We are going to do a thorough search and interview the best candidates. We anticipate that Gregg will be part of that process." And then do an interview and cut him loose. Leaving him hanging out in space looked real bad and made it seem like they were clueless when in fact I think they were very well organized and did a good job vetting and finding solid solutions.

If you had stopped at "Leaving him hanging out in space looked real bad and made it seem like they were clueless" I'd agree with you 100%. Snyder thought he would make Spagnuolo an offer that he couldn't refuse and was shocked when he didn't get him. Fortunately, he had Zorn on a very small list to choose from. By hiring the coordinators before the coach, it seems that Snyder doesn't understand the "chemistry" aspect of team sports.

doughtydoubter · 08-28-2008, 01:38 PM

I dont hate the Dan i respect him for shellin gout millions and millions for trying to make our wildest dreams come true. Cmon...the man lured gibbs back...he has tried really hard for all the skins fans. There are reasons behind things sometimes that we never see.
i.e patrick ramsey. and other issues.
but you have to keep the faith that in the long run it was for the best.

08-28-2008, 10:50 AM	#1
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache First let me say that Mike Wise is quickly becoming one of my favorite newspaper writers. This article about Snyder's courting of Blache and the implications on Gregg Williams is really fascinating. It's a long read, but well worth it.. washingtonpost.com __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

08-28-2008, 11:05 AM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache I think they honestly felt like Williams wasn't the right guy for the job. I hope Grills and Blache can work it out. They both seem like decent guys.

08-28-2008, 11:10 AM	#4
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache I love this part "I got a minuscule [raise], literally minuscule," Blache said of Snyder's offer. "That night, he said, 'This is what I'm offering you because you've always been overpaid.' I said, 'All right, that's a real recruiting line.' Edit: Matty beat me to it, but that doesn't change my feelings about it.

08-28-2008, 11:20 AM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache what is the deal with Williams? the guy has a great defensive mind, but cant sell himself to be head coach. wonder why? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-28-2008, 11:24 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache Wasnt part of the equation that Williams wanted the type of HC / GM role that fails miserably for most teams and we wanted Cerrato to have control over the FO? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-28-2008, 11:27 AM	#8
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache That's funny because I think Wise is the worst of the Post's sports columnists. First he was trying to be Tony Kornheiser Jr. and that failed miserably. Now I guess he's trying to be Mr. Insider. I hope it works out better for him. That said it was a good article.

08-28-2008, 11:45 AM	#10
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache Good article. I guess Snyder wanted Blache to commit before he let GW go. He didn't want to be left empty handed. I'm sure these sorts of things go on in most NFL hiring situations. Granted, Snyder, handles things a little differently, but let's see how this one pans out. I still think GW was the right guy for the job, but hey what do i know. GW's has recently said he wants to coach again and that if the opportunity ever presents itself he would return to DC. Outwardly, it doesn't seem like he holds any illwill. I do like Greg Blache but as i've said before i'd feel a little more comfortable right about now w/ a GW run D.

08-28-2008, 12:47 PM	#12
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 68 Posts: 868	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache The whole replacing Joe Gibbs and staff was handled badly. By hiring the assistants before hiring the head coach sort of undermined the whole process. Any good head coaching candidate would want to hire his own staff. I think the Skins hurt themselves by doing the process ass backwards. Even though I think the hiring was done badly, I think in the long run, Jim Zorn looks worthy of an opportunity. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

08-28-2008, 01:38 PM	#15
doughtydoubter Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: the glorious city of DC Posts: 740	Re: Interesting insight to Snyder & Blache I dont hate the Dan i respect him for shellin gout millions and millions for trying to make our wildest dreams come true. Cmon...the man lured gibbs back...he has tried really hard for all the skins fans. There are reasons behind things sometimes that we never see. i.e patrick ramsey. and other issues. but you have to keep the faith that in the long run it was for the best.

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