John Lynch is available, should we make a move?

4olddc · 07-30-2008, 09:33 PM

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with our schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

skinsfan69 · 07-30-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 4olddc

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with out schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

What in the world are you talking about?

rypper11 · 07-30-2008, 09:39 PM

Yes, yes and yes. Put him in at strong safety for a year with Reed playing spot duty and special teams.

4olddc · 07-30-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What in the world are you talking about?

John Lynch; he played safety for the Broncos. Several places are reporting that he has left the team and is either looking for a new one or he wants to go into broadcasting.

rypper11 · 07-30-2008, 09:41 PM

here's a link:

The Canadian Press: Report: Denver Broncos safety John Lynch wants to leave the team

PS: I don't think he was asking who Lynch is, just what news item are you referring to.

skinsfan69 · 07-30-2008, 09:44 PM

Wow. I guess he's done. He should hang it up. He's had a great career.

jamf · 07-30-2008, 09:46 PM

No!
No more retreads.

At some point a player has to earn their roster spot. Make a young guy earn the spot and we will be better off down the road.

Dirtbag59 · 07-30-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rypper11

Yes, yes and yes. Put him in at strong safety for a year with Reed playing spot duty and special teams.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4olddc

Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with our schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

WaldSkins · 07-30-2008, 10:00 PM

No thank you John Lynch.

Dirtbag59 · 07-30-2008, 10:02 PM

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

4olddc · 07-30-2008, 10:06 PM

I don't think we should pick up Lynch to replace any of our guys, but rather, to mentor them. Our 4 safeties are very young guys, I think being around someone like Lynch would be a great influence.

Dirtbag59 · 07-30-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4olddc

I don't think we should pick up Lynch to replace any of our guys, but rather, to mentor them. Our 4 safeties are very young guys, I think being around someone like Lynch would be a great influence.

Oh well thats different then, but at the same time I doubt that Lynch would accept a backup role especially considering that

1. He has a Super Bowl Ring
2. He's been a starter for over 10 years
3. He's financially secure
4. He's considering going into broadcasting, leading me to believe that he's ready to move on to life after football (unlike some people lol).

so even if the front office was willing to sign him, I doubt they get bring him in under those circumstances. And on top of that I don't know if he would accept a vet min type contract which I imagine is all we could offer him after the Jason Taylor trade. I know some might want to bring up Troy Vincent but I see John Lynch and Troy Vincent as two very different situations.

WaldSkins · 07-30-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd.

Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out.

With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft.

I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. Doughty has both. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome.

On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know.

However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that.

You get that with any big name free agent on the Warpath. People see these big name free agents and automatically want the skins to sign them. Then when they flop, those same people get on here and complain about how Snyder doesn't get it and that he should build through the draft and not waste the salary cap on these big names.

Doughty is a very capable safety. He will have a great season especially with a improved DL.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 07-30-2008, 10:25 PM

No thanks. If he were 2-3 years younger, then I'd probably be alright with signing him. It's bad enough when a player if over 30, it's even worse if they are closer to 40 than 30.

wilsowilso · 07-30-2008, 10:45 PM

I wonder how many times we are going to have to go through this as the mass of aging veterans start getting released during the pre-season?

Let's try and follow some simple guidelines.

1. If the player is old as dirt don't bother.
2. If the player is washed up don't bother.
3. If the player doesn't address and area of need like LB don't bother.

07-30-2008, 09:33 PM	#1
4olddc Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 14	John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Lynch is 37, but he's a great player and leader. If we can get him for a decent price and is willing to go along with our schemes, I think he would be a fantastic pickup. Thoughts?

07-30-2008, 09:39 PM	#3
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Yes, yes and yes. Put him in at strong safety for a year with Reed playing spot duty and special teams. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

07-30-2008, 09:41 PM	#5
rypper11 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,228	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? here's a link: The Canadian Press: Report: Denver Broncos safety John Lynch wants to leave the team PS: I don't think he was asking who Lynch is, just what news item are you referring to. __________________ Playing a kids game for a kings ransom.

07-30-2008, 09:44 PM	#6
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,143	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Wow. I guess he's done. He should hang it up. He's had a great career.

07-30-2008, 09:46 PM	#7
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,183	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? No! No more retreads. At some point a player has to earn their roster spot. Make a young guy earn the spot and we will be better off down the road.

07-30-2008, 10:00 PM	#9
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 40 Posts: 2,726	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? No thank you John Lynch.

07-30-2008, 10:02 PM	#10
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? Ok, now that I got that out of my system it's time to argue. The stigma that Reed Doughty is not a starter in this league is killing me and the view that we need to replace him after he proved himself to the point of earning a starting job this year is obsurd. Now before I get further into this argument let me say that I think the anxiousness to replace Doughty with a bigger name is based, for a good amount of people, on lossing a player like Sean Taylor. I think people got use to the idea of having two big name safetys and they want that back. Thats why every available safety that pops up gets a strong push from "lobbyist" here on the Warpath. Other people just want the Redskins to have better Madden players so they can use them when the game comes out. With that said, the last time we ignored a productive player on our roster in favor of a big name we signed Adam Archuletta and let Ryan Clark go to the Steelers. Afterwards people were begging for Ryan Clark to come back in the months leading up to the draft. I don't know the KC Joyner metrics on how Reed played last year but we do have numbers such as tackles and such that we can match up with endorsements from the coaching staff. First of all his performance at SS when he started looks identical in terms of numbers when compared to Landry's time at SS and as I have stated before, if Doughty is as good as a rookie (first 8 or so games) Laron Landry then awesome. On top of that Doughty was cited by Cooley as the hardest working player this offseason and by Cooleys own admission he see's Doughty having a breakout year. Now does this mean it will happen, not necessarily (see JP Losman), but SS is a lot easier to play then QB and Doughty performed well at SS last year. If someone can prove otherwise please let me know as I only have numbers, endorsements, and overall defensive performance to go on at this point so if someone has anything else to counter this then let me know. However everyone's favorite new Redskin Stuart Schwiegert has yet to convince Blache that a Landry-Schweigert combo is better then a Landry-Doughty combo. And untill we see otherwise I am going to continue to endorse Doughty as the starting SS for 2008. He's at least earned that. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG Last edited by Dirtbag59; 07-30-2008 at 10:07 PM.

07-30-2008, 10:06 PM	#11
4olddc Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 14	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? I don't think we should pick up Lynch to replace any of our guys, but rather, to mentor them. Our 4 safeties are very young guys, I think being around someone like Lynch would be a great influence.

07-30-2008, 10:25 PM	#14
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? No thanks. If he were 2-3 years younger, then I'd probably be alright with signing him. It's bad enough when a player if over 30, it's even worse if they are closer to 40 than 30.

07-30-2008, 10:45 PM	#15
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 50 Posts: 2,841	Re: John Lynch is available, should we make a move? I wonder how many times we are going to have to go through this as the mass of aging veterans start getting released during the pre-season? Let's try and follow some simple guidelines. 1. If the player is old as dirt don't bother. 2. If the player is washed up don't bother. 3. If the player doesn't address and area of need like LB don't bother.

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