We must draft OL early!

skinzaholic73 · 03-22-2008, 12:55 PM

I am posting this because I just wanted to express my views on who I feel the skins should draft based on biggest need.IMO we need to draft OL early it is our biggest need. We were a playoff team last year! Not only do I believe we would have won the division but would have gone deeper in the playoffs,had we had a healthy OL.Now I do acknowledge that CB and DE/DT/WR are also important needs I just don't feel they are positions we need to address at #21.If S.Springs stays this season then we just draft a CB in mid-late rounds.EX:Tyvon Branch,Jonathan Zenon,Chevis Jackson,Orlando Scandrick etc.....DT same thing if Trevor Laws or Dre Moore isn't there in the 3rd. You have Kendall Langford,Barry Booker,Keilen Dykes or Lionel Dotson.All of which are perfectly capable of fulfilling our needs.As far as DE is concerned I wouldn't be against drafting Quentin Groves or Derrick Harvey at #21 but this would not be ideal and I wouldn't recommend it unless Branden Albert OG and Chris Williams OT are already off the board.We are now moving to the WCO so we are going to need that OL help!What good does it do to be in the WCO if Portis has no room to run or Campbell has no time to throw to that BIG receiver everyone feels we need to draft at #21??? Again IMO it's only logical that we draft OL in the first 3rds.Preferably with 2 of our first 4 picks(it won't happen but I can always dream).A couple of scenarios that I like would be as follows.

Scenario #1 1.Branden Albert OG
2.Calais Campbell DE
3.Jordy Nelson WR
3.John Greco OT

Scenario #2 1.Quentin Groves DE
2.Roy Schuening OG
3.Jordy Nelson WR(Insert your favorite WR here.I just feel J.Nelson would be a perfect fit for us but may have to pick him up in the 2nd.round) 3.Gosder Cherilus OT

Scenario #3 1.Branden Albert OG
2.Cliff Avril DE/OLB
3.Jordy Nelson
3.Oneil Cousins

There are a lot of scenarios just depending on who's available when we pick.We have neglected this position to long and if we go OL early we are going to be set for this season and many to come!We can't forget we are not looking for depth here,we are looking for future starters.As far as WR is concerned I do feel 2nd or 3rd would be a good place to pick one up.I just don't feel we need to reach for a WR in the first when there is quality in mid to later rounds.Let's give Campbell and Portis that special help they need and deserve if we want them to lead us to the superbowl anytime soon.OL early is the way to go!

jsarno · 03-22-2008, 01:06 PM

Good scenarios...I am curious though, I thought Campbell projected in the top 20? Did his stock fall?

skinzaholic73 · 03-22-2008, 01:08 PM

Thanks man! Yes I have read on a few sites that C.Campbell is now most likely a 2nd rd. pick.

jsarno · 03-22-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skinzaholic73

Thanks man! Yes I have read on a few sites that C.Campbell is now most likely a 2nd rd. pick.

Wow...I did not know that. Then again, I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to it here lately.
If we could sneak him in the 2nd, that would be a great pick up for us.

I am of the notion that our DL is most important, but if they have a good plan to cover it with a second rounder, I'm all for it.

Skinny Tee · 03-22-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Wow...I did not know that. Then again, I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to it here lately.
If we could sneak him in the 2nd, that would be a great pick up for us.

I am of the notion that our DL is most important, but if they have a good plan to cover it with a second rounder, I'm all for it.

Yeah, DE is overdue on being addressed in the draft or free agency. Carter is a nice FA pick up but he was first of what should have been three additions that should have been made.

We have needed a pass rush from the DL since the "five in a row or we don't go" days. We should have been addressing that position since then until it was adequate.

I wouldn't mind 3 selections that addressed DL, 2 in the first 3 picks.

GridIron26 · 03-22-2008, 03:44 PM

I would not have any objection if we draft a O-line player in 1st rd - however I think we really need to draft a good CB first because I'm not sure if Springs will be in Redskins uniform next yr or two yrs later.. We DO need to find a replacement for him soon.. But if a good O-line player happens to be there, we should go ahead and grab him..

As for Jordy Nelson, u ren't only one.. I really hope we will draft him but eh I hope we can grab him in 3rd rd..

EveryHomeGameSince87 · 03-22-2008, 04:01 PM

O Line Early Your Out Your Mind!!!! They Neeeedddd To Try To Get Heyer In A Guard Spot Draft Maybe One Or Two O Line Second Day! With Jansen Heyer On One Side And Thomas And Samuals On The Other Its Size And Strength

Ruhskins · 03-22-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EveryHomeGameSince87

O Line Early Your Out Your Mind!!!! They Neeeedddd To Try To Get Heyer In A Guard Spot Draft Maybe One Or Two O Line Second Day! With Jansen Heyer On One Side And Thomas And Samuals On The Other Its Size And Strength

Didn't we try to move a tackle into a guard spot already, and it didn't work out? I think Heyer should be groomed to replace either Jansen or Samuels.

billyredskin · 03-22-2008, 05:14 PM

I have always felt that you can get solid value offensive lineman in the later rounds- 4th, 5th and 6th rounds. I REALLY believe we need to get an offensive playmaker with that first pick. I think either Limas Sweed, Malcomb Kelly or Desean Jackson will be available at that point and we need to get them. We may not have had much luck drafting receivers in the first round over the last 10 or so years (insert Michael Westbrook here) but I think these 3 receivers are going to be very good.

SeanTaylor21 · 03-22-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Didn't we try to move a tackle into a guard spot already, and it didn't work out? I think Heyer should be groomed to replace either Jansen or Samuels.

Todd Wade....

Skinny Tee · 03-22-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by billyredskin

I have always felt that you can get solid value offensive lineman in the later rounds- 4th, 5th and 6th rounds. I REALLY believe we need to get an offensive playmaker with that first pick. I think either Limas Sweed, Malcomb Kelly or Desean Jackson will be available at that point and we need to get them. We may not have had much luck drafting receivers in the first round over the last 10 or so years (insert Michael Westbrook here) but I think these 3 receivers are going to be very good.

Marques Colston - New Orleans Saints - NFL - Yahoo! Sports - Marques Colston

If we use our first pick on a WR I will be disappointed. WRs with size and ability can be found later in the draft as evident in the link above.

Granted, this is the extreme case in which it pans out, the Skins should be able to grab a tall, system compatiable, receiver later in the draft, if it is so necessary.

I feel using our 1st pick on a WR would poorly start out our most significant draft in the past 5 years.

GridIron26 · 03-22-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Marques Colston - New Orleans Saints - NFL - Yahoo! Sports - Marques Colston

If we use our first pick on a WR I will be disappointed. WRs with size and ability can be found later in the draft as evident in the link above.

Granted, this is the extreme case in which it pans out, the Skins should be able to grab a tall, system compatiable, receiver later in the draft, if it is so necessary.

I feel using our 1st pick on a WR would poorly start out our most significant draft in the past 5 years.

I completely agree, I'm completely against the idea of drafting a WR in 1st rd.. There are plenty of WRs later in late drafts; beside all WRs who are projected to be 1st rder - they weren't all hyped like last yr with Calvin Johnson.. And yet look what happened to him last season..

SeanTaylor21 · 03-23-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by billyredskin

I have always felt that you can get solid value offensive lineman in the later rounds- 4th, 5th and 6th rounds. I REALLY believe we need to get an offensive playmaker with that first pick. I think either Limas Sweed, Malcomb Kelly or Desean Jackson will be available at that point and we need to get them. We may not have had much luck drafting receivers in the first round over the last 10 or so years (insert Michael Westbrook here) but I think these 3 receivers are going to be very good.

I agree that we should use later rounds for oline, but in the first round I'm not completely sold on the fact that any of those three really even deserve to be picked in the first round.

Stuck in TX · 03-23-2008, 12:43 PM

our needs are just too prominent to draft OL in the earlier rounds. If someone really big-name is still available in the late 2nd round, I wouldnt be opposed to trading up but it would have to be someone good. Alot of O linemen can be found in the later rounds and the "big name" guys are sometimes overrated... Robert Gallery anyone? The first round and early 2nd are just too big of spots to take a gamble on a position that we dont need to spend that pick on. I would rather spent a 1st rounder on a DB, and it be bust than to spend it on a position we dont need as badly and they be a future hall of famer. Need-based risk = potential high reward IMO.

EXoffender · 03-23-2008, 09:25 PM

Quality OL are always found on day two. I hope Oklahoma WR Malcolm Kelly has a good showing early next month. His 40-time cannot hurt him so I'm unsure why he's making everybody wait for his personal workout. This is a big reciever with soft hands who has drooped only two passes in the last two years as a starter and has the productivity you look for for.

03-22-2008, 03:44 PM	#6
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 3,391	Re: We must draft OL early! I would not have any objection if we draft a O-line player in 1st rd - however I think we really need to draft a good CB first because I'm not sure if Springs will be in Redskins uniform next yr or two yrs later.. We DO need to find a replacement for him soon.. But if a good O-line player happens to be there, we should go ahead and grab him.. As for Jordy Nelson, u ren't only one.. I really hope we will draft him but eh I hope we can grab him in 3rd rd..

03-22-2008, 04:01 PM	#7
EveryHomeGameSince87 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11	Re: We must draft OL early! O Line Early Your Out Your Mind!!!! They Neeeedddd To Try To Get Heyer In A Guard Spot Draft Maybe One Or Two O Line Second Day! With Jansen Heyer On One Side And Thomas And Samuals On The Other Its Size And Strength

03-22-2008, 05:14 PM	#9
billyredskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 39	Re: We must draft OL early! I have always felt that you can get solid value offensive lineman in the later rounds- 4th, 5th and 6th rounds. I REALLY believe we need to get an offensive playmaker with that first pick. I think either Limas Sweed, Malcomb Kelly or Desean Jackson will be available at that point and we need to get them. We may not have had much luck drafting receivers in the first round over the last 10 or so years (insert Michael Westbrook here) but I think these 3 receivers are going to be very good.

03-23-2008, 12:43 PM	#14
Stuck in TX Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 39 Posts: 545	Re: We must draft OL early! our needs are just too prominent to draft OL in the earlier rounds. If someone really big-name is still available in the late 2nd round, I wouldnt be opposed to trading up but it would have to be someone good. Alot of O linemen can be found in the later rounds and the "big name" guys are sometimes overrated... Robert Gallery anyone? The first round and early 2nd are just too big of spots to take a gamble on a position that we dont need to spend that pick on. I would rather spent a 1st rounder on a DB, and it be bust than to spend it on a position we dont need as badly and they be a future hall of famer. Need-based risk = potential high reward IMO. __________________ We will miss you Sean. RIP 1983-2007 REMEMBER VT Go Hokies

03-23-2008, 09:25 PM	#15
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: We must draft OL early! Quality OL are always found on day two. I hope Oklahoma WR Malcolm Kelly has a good showing early next month. His 40-time cannot hurt him so I'm unsure why he's making everybody wait for his personal workout. This is a big reciever with soft hands who has drooped only two passes in the last two years as a starter and has the productivity you look for for.

03-22-2008, 12:55 PM	#1
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 78	We must draft OL early! I am posting this because I just wanted to express my views on who I feel the skins should draft based on biggest need.IMO we need to draft OL early it is our biggest need. We were a playoff team last year! Not only do I believe we would have won the division but would have gone deeper in the playoffs,had we had a healthy OL.Now I do acknowledge that CB and DE/DT/WR are also important needs I just don't feel they are positions we need to address at #21.If S.Springs stays this season then we just draft a CB in mid-late rounds.EX:Tyvon Branch,Jonathan Zenon,Chevis Jackson,Orlando Scandrick etc.....DT same thing if Trevor Laws or Dre Moore isn't there in the 3rd. You have Kendall Langford,Barry Booker,Keilen Dykes or Lionel Dotson.All of which are perfectly capable of fulfilling our needs.As far as DE is concerned I wouldn't be against drafting Quentin Groves or Derrick Harvey at #21 but this would not be ideal and I wouldn't recommend it unless Branden Albert OG and Chris Williams OT are already off the board.We are now moving to the WCO so we are going to need that OL help!What good does it do to be in the WCO if Portis has no room to run or Campbell has no time to throw to that BIG receiver everyone feels we need to draft at #21??? Again IMO it's only logical that we draft OL in the first 3rds.Preferably with 2 of our first 4 picks(it won't happen but I can always dream).A couple of scenarios that I like would be as follows. Scenario #1 1.Branden Albert OG 2.Calais Campbell DE 3.Jordy Nelson WR 3.John Greco OT Scenario #2 1.Quentin Groves DE 2.Roy Schuening OG 3.Jordy Nelson WR(Insert your favorite WR here.I just feel J.Nelson would be a perfect fit for us but may have to pick him up in the 2nd.round) 3.Gosder Cherilus OT Scenario #3 1.Branden Albert OG 2.Cliff Avril DE/OLB 3.Jordy Nelson 3.Oneil Cousins There are a lot of scenarios just depending on who's available when we pick.We have neglected this position to long and if we go OL early we are going to be set for this season and many to come!We can't forget we are not looking for depth here,we are looking for future starters.As far as WR is concerned I do feel 2nd or 3rd would be a good place to pick one up.I just don't feel we need to reach for a WR in the first when there is quality in mid to later rounds.Let's give Campbell and Portis that special help they need and deserve if we want them to lead us to the superbowl anytime soon.OL early is the way to go!

03-22-2008, 01:06 PM	#2
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 49 Posts: 9,534	Re: We must draft OL early! Good scenarios...I am curious though, I thought Campbell projected in the top 20? Did his stock fall? __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

03-22-2008, 01:08 PM	#3
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 78	Re: We must draft OL early! Thanks man! Yes I have read on a few sites that C.Campbell is now most likely a 2nd rd. pick.

We must draft OL early!

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