The 'Skins biggest cause for concern right now?

MTK · 08-16-2004, 12:02 AM

vote

Daseal · 08-16-2004, 12:02 AM

How about a poll! 8)

MTK · 08-16-2004, 12:04 AM

Gotta give me some time to post it, lol

Daseal · 08-16-2004, 12:05 AM

No Time! Need Polls Now!

Redskins_P · 08-16-2004, 12:06 AM

I say o-line. Once they get it together...then the running game will be alot better too

Daseal · 08-16-2004, 12:07 AM

I went with the Poor QB play. I'm a bit worried they aren't in sync, and I know that this situation will right itself. I just hope it's not too late.

The running game is scary too. I really haven't seen a single spectacular play out of Portis. I realize it's preseason and it's a vanilla offense, but a guy with his speed, quickness, and moves should be able to break at least one for over 15 yards!

SmootSmack · 08-16-2004, 12:15 AM

I went with poor QB play, because if Daseal says so.....

Seriously though, while it is only the preseason I'd like to see a little more out of Brunell and especially Ramsey. I want the starting QB come opening day a case of the better of the two taking the field, not the less unimpressive.

MTK · 08-16-2004, 12:16 AM

I went with it's just the preseason.

The QB play will improve with time and reps. The offensive line will also fall in place with time, and with the line jelling the running game will pick up too. Let's also keep in mind this offense is pure vanilla right now, I think it was Brunell that said the defense pretty much knows what play is coming.

Still, it would be nice to see some flashes next week in Miami.

skinsfanthru&thru · 08-16-2004, 12:31 AM

I voted nothing cuz it's preseason and with Gibbs almost as paranoid, if not as paranoid, as parcells, he hasn't really given the offense much in the way of plays or formations to really show what the offense is capable of. Plus the teams need a good rhythm built and I'm sure its a bit wierd for the wrs, rbs, and o-lineman switching qbs from righty to lefty to righty. plus I'm sure most of the players won't be in actual regular season game shape til the next week or two and cutting some of the training camp scrubs and then we should have a better idea of what the team is really capable of.

That Guy · 08-16-2004, 12:34 AM

its just preseason, gibbs is going straight vanilla, which is too predictable to have much luck against nfl defenses... he's not putting them in good positions; I just hope the QBs don't lose confidence by the time they unveil the real playbook.

o-line has actually done well for the injury they took... the skins have still led the league for 5 years straight in player/coaching turnover, and what you're seeing is that a lot of players aren't comfortable with yet another scheme.

there's a good chance the still won't be comfortable during tampa, but i'll wait till game 5 ends before i start to panic.

illdefined · 08-16-2004, 12:55 AM

didnt know what to choose...

- poor QB play hurts the team's morale as a whole
- offensive line/running game

but my biggest concern is INJURIES

- LavColes' big toe throughout the whole season, will NEVER be 100%!
- Thomas and Barrow are old men w/ chronic,nagging and very present knee injuries
- Sean Springs has been delicate in his years playing
- DIRTBAG #1

bedlamVR · 08-16-2004, 01:36 AM

My biggst concern is the Spurrier factor. Mistakes are playing a huge part in the games and yet again we are defeating ourselves . This is a ways into the preseason and Ramsey is still fumbling exchanges it is embaressing and simply shouldn't be happening .

offiss · 08-16-2004, 02:58 AM

I went with the O-line, just because dasael went with QB play

No really I have to believe the better the O-line play's the better the running game will get, and the better the QB play will be, I want to see Ramsey on occassion to be able to get comfortable in the pocket, he was pressured the whole time, Brunnell was a little quicker at getting rid of the ball, but I think that will come with time for Ramsey.

Teemotay · 08-16-2004, 09:45 AM

I voted "nothing, it's the preseason", because I have faith in Joe. I don't believe that he's too worried about winning the preseason games, he just wants to find out who will be the starters (in a few positions), and who will be the backups for many other positions. Staying injury free is the biggest concern, for any team, during preseason play. In addition, I'm old enough to remember Gibbs' first stint as head coach of the Skins. In his first year, they went 4-0 in the preseason, only to start off the real season with an 0-5 record. BTW, they finished the season with an 8-8 record. In Gibbs' 2nd year, they went 0-4 in the preseason, and won the Superbowl. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they'll go to the Superbowl this year, but at the same time, I think it's far too early to get worried.

Beemnseven · 08-16-2004, 09:55 AM

I can't believe everyone is falling for this notion that "well, the offense is vanilla - that's why they can't get anything going."

If you follow that argument to its logical conclusion, then the offense will somehow perform better when more complicated plays are called.

I know it's going to take more time and reps. But if they can't run basic bread-and-butter plays smoothly by the third game, I'd say there's real trouble.

View Poll Results: The 'Skins biggest cause for concern right now?
Poor QB play	26	37.68%
Offensive line still coming together	10	14.49%
Anemic running game	10	14.49%
Nothing, it's the preseason	23	33.33%
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08-16-2004, 12:15 AM	#7
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I went with poor QB play, because if Daseal says so..... Seriously though, while it is only the preseason I'd like to see a little more out of Brunell and especially Ramsey. I want the starting QB come opening day a case of the better of the two taking the field, not the less unimpressive. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-16-2004, 12:16 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,705	I went with it's just the preseason. The QB play will improve with time and reps. The offensive line will also fall in place with time, and with the line jelling the running game will pick up too. Let's also keep in mind this offense is pure vanilla right now, I think it was Brunell that said the defense pretty much knows what play is coming. Still, it would be nice to see some flashes next week in Miami. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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08-16-2004, 12:02 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	How about a poll! 8)

08-16-2004, 12:05 AM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	No Time! Need Polls Now!

08-16-2004, 12:06 AM	#5
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	I say o-line. Once they get it together...then the running game will be alot better too

08-16-2004, 12:07 AM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I went with the Poor QB play. I'm a bit worried they aren't in sync, and I know that this situation will right itself. I just hope it's not too late. The running game is scary too. I really haven't seen a single spectacular play out of Portis. I realize it's preseason and it's a vanilla offense, but a guy with his speed, quickness, and moves should be able to break at least one for over 15 yards!

08-16-2004, 12:31 AM	#9
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	I voted nothing cuz it's preseason and with Gibbs almost as paranoid, if not as paranoid, as parcells, he hasn't really given the offense much in the way of plays or formations to really show what the offense is capable of. Plus the teams need a good rhythm built and I'm sure its a bit wierd for the wrs, rbs, and o-lineman switching qbs from righty to lefty to righty. plus I'm sure most of the players won't be in actual regular season game shape til the next week or two and cutting some of the training camp scrubs and then we should have a better idea of what the team is really capable of.

08-16-2004, 12:34 AM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,565	its just preseason, gibbs is going straight vanilla, which is too predictable to have much luck against nfl defenses... he's not putting them in good positions; I just hope the QBs don't lose confidence by the time they unveil the real playbook. o-line has actually done well for the injury they took... the skins have still led the league for 5 years straight in player/coaching turnover, and what you're seeing is that a lot of players aren't comfortable with yet another scheme. there's a good chance the still won't be comfortable during tampa, but i'll wait till game 5 ends before i start to panic.

08-16-2004, 12:55 AM	#11
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	didnt know what to choose... - poor QB play hurts the team's morale as a whole - offensive line/running game but my biggest concern is INJURIES - LavColes' big toe throughout the whole season, will NEVER be 100%! - Thomas and Barrow are old men w/ chronic,nagging and very present knee injuries - Sean Springs has been delicate in his years playing - DIRTBAG #1

08-16-2004, 01:36 AM	#12
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	My biggst concern is the Spurrier factor. Mistakes are playing a huge part in the games and yet again we are defeating ourselves . This is a ways into the preseason and Ramsey is still fumbling exchanges it is embaressing and simply shouldn't be happening .

08-16-2004, 02:58 AM	#13
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	I went with the O-line, just because dasael went with QB play No really I have to believe the better the O-line play's the better the running game will get, and the better the QB play will be, I want to see Ramsey on occassion to be able to get comfortable in the pocket, he was pressured the whole time, Brunnell was a little quicker at getting rid of the ball, but I think that will come with time for Ramsey.

08-16-2004, 09:45 AM	#14
Teemotay Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 30	I voted "nothing, it's the preseason", because I have faith in Joe. I don't believe that he's too worried about winning the preseason games, he just wants to find out who will be the starters (in a few positions), and who will be the backups for many other positions. Staying injury free is the biggest concern, for any team, during preseason play. In addition, I'm old enough to remember Gibbs' first stint as head coach of the Skins. In his first year, they went 4-0 in the preseason, only to start off the real season with an 0-5 record. BTW, they finished the season with an 8-8 record. In Gibbs' 2nd year, they went 0-4 in the preseason, and won the Superbowl. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they'll go to the Superbowl this year, but at the same time, I think it's far too early to get worried.

08-16-2004, 09:55 AM	#15
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	I can't believe everyone is falling for this notion that "well, the offense is vanilla - that's why they can't get anything going." If you follow that argument to its logical conclusion, then the offense will somehow perform better when more complicated plays are called. I know it's going to take more time and reps. But if they can't run basic bread-and-butter plays smoothly by the third game, I'd say there's real trouble.

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