trading down

skinzaholic73 · 02-15-2008, 03:51 PM

I was just wondering.What about us trading down? I was thinking if we traded with Green Bay or someone else but stay in the first rd.maybe we could pick up extra 3rd,a4th or 5th rd. pick this year.Is this possible? thoughts...

SmootSmack · 02-15-2008, 03:55 PM

I don't know about trading our first round pick. But I'm all for trading down in the 2nd round to pick up an extra pick. Would love to have picks in all rounds

FRPLG · 02-15-2008, 04:09 PM

Here we go.

I agree trading down can be a good idea but many people seem to think there is a magic trade down fairy that you tell to trade you down. There has to be a trade partner and the deal needs to be good. So it isn't as simple as just deciding to trade down. If we can get a good deal I think we would have to seriosuly consider it. From our spot though there will be some decent players left. If we can get some pass rushing help at 21 or an immediate impact offensive lineman I think we use the pick. If the best we can do is a WR I would say try and trade down.

skinzaholic73 · 02-15-2008, 04:19 PM

I agree.I was just thinking of maybe trading a player or working some sort of deal with san fran or green bay.If it were possible to still stay in the first rd,we would still be able to pick up a really good CB or DE with that first pick all the while picking up an extra pick in the mid rds.Because our WR will come from FA and if we had a 4th,5th or an extra 3rd this year that would be really sweet.

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-15-2008, 05:05 PM

If we were higher up then maybe I would wanna trade. Like last year, at #6, that would have been a great time to trade, but at 21 overall, we need to stay put.

If we could trade a player for an extra 3rd/4th/5th round pick, it would be a good look for us.

LandrySlice · 02-15-2008, 05:24 PM

we need to keep our 1st rd pick this year, but i belive that if we could get trade to add an extra pick for next year, it would be worth it. Next years draft class is NASTY!

freddyg12 · 02-15-2008, 07:14 PM

There's often a guy that slips way further down than people think, e.g. Matt Leinart, Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn.

If for some reason somebody like Matt Ryan is still available at #21, there will be a few teams that are willing to trade up those few spots to get him. That's what Cleveland did last year w/Dallas & now the pokes have 2 1st round picks.

To be in that position requires a lot of luck.

Daseal · 02-15-2008, 07:29 PM

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If we were higher up then maybe I would wanna trade. Like last year, at #6, that would have been a great time to trade, but at 21 overall, we need to stay put.

I disagree. When you have a top 10 pick, few people want it. The problem is that rookies get paid so much a top 10 bust can ruin your salary cap. I believe the Cowboys were around 21ish last year and they got a hell of a deal. Id definitely trade our first this year for a shitty teams first next year plus a high-mid rounder this year.

Paintrain · 02-15-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I disagree. When you have a top 10 pick, few people want it. The problem is that rookies get paid so much a top 10 bust can ruin your salary cap. I believe the Cowboys were around 21ish last year and they got a hell of a deal. Id definitely trade our first this year for a shitty teams first next year plus a high-mid rounder this year.

I agree completely.. Although Dallas certainly didn't expect Cleveland to be a 10 win team, look at New England. I don't even remember who SF traded to grab but they gave this years #1 pick and a team that won 18 games has the 7th overall selection.. This is the type of deal we should seek if anything.

Daseal · 02-15-2008, 08:05 PM

They used the pick on Joe Staley, an outstanding OT. They don't regret the move one bit.

dmek25 · 02-15-2008, 08:10 PM

there doesn't seem to be alot of so called studs in the draft. if the skins can maneuver another pick out of someone, im all for it

backrow · 02-15-2008, 08:48 PM

As FRPLG said, there is no trade down/up fairy. The proposal to trade down has to originate from the team lower attempting to trade up. Our pick would be de-valued if we were making the call to move down, and up-valued if someone lower was proposing to move up. Basic Economics.

BrudLee · 02-15-2008, 09:12 PM

Trading down could be the best thing we could do. Thing is, we won't know until we're on the clock whether to do it.

We pick 21st overall. For the 22nd pick the Cowboys last year got 4 picks in that draft, plus a first rounder this year - but that was because of one player on the board. Should we trade down? Sure, if there's one player on the board that makes it happen.

SpeedyDuncan · 02-15-2008, 09:14 PM

Our recent history has been trading up. From memory, I'm fairly sure that we traded up for Campbell, McIntosh and Cooley.

SpeedyDuncan · 02-15-2008, 09:16 PM

I should claify that McIntosh and Cooley were not 1st rounders. McIntosh (2nd), Cooley (3rd).

02-15-2008, 04:09 PM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: trading down Here we go. I agree trading down can be a good idea but many people seem to think there is a magic trade down fairy that you tell to trade you down. There has to be a trade partner and the deal needs to be good. So it isn't as simple as just deciding to trade down. If we can get a good deal I think we would have to seriosuly consider it. From our spot though there will be some decent players left. If we can get some pass rushing help at 21 or an immediate impact offensive lineman I think we use the pick. If the best we can do is a WR I would say try and trade down.

02-15-2008, 04:19 PM	#4
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 78	Re: trading down I agree.I was just thinking of maybe trading a player or working some sort of deal with san fran or green bay.If it were possible to still stay in the first rd,we would still be able to pick up a really good CB or DE with that first pick all the while picking up an extra pick in the mid rds.Because our WR will come from FA and if we had a 4th,5th or an extra 3rd this year that would be really sweet.

02-15-2008, 05:05 PM	#5
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: trading down If we were higher up then maybe I would wanna trade. Like last year, at #6, that would have been a great time to trade, but at 21 overall, we need to stay put. If we could trade a player for an extra 3rd/4th/5th round pick, it would be a good look for us. __________________ http://zstiojar.edu.pl/68560

02-15-2008, 07:14 PM	#7
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: trading down There's often a guy that slips way further down than people think, e.g. Matt Leinart, Aaron Rodgers, Brady Quinn. If for some reason somebody like Matt Ryan is still available at #21, there will be a few teams that are willing to trade up those few spots to get him. That's what Cleveland did last year w/Dallas & now the pokes have 2 1st round picks. To be in that position requires a lot of luck.

02-15-2008, 08:05 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: trading down They used the pick on Joe Staley, an outstanding OT. They don't regret the move one bit. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-15-2008, 03:51 PM	#1
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 51 Posts: 78	trading down I was just wondering.What about us trading down? I was thinking if we traded with Green Bay or someone else but stay in the first rd.maybe we could pick up extra 3rd,a4th or 5th rd. pick this year.Is this possible? thoughts...

02-15-2008, 03:55 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: trading down I don't know about trading our first round pick. But I'm all for trading down in the 2nd round to pick up an extra pick. Would love to have picks in all rounds __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-15-2008, 05:24 PM	#6
LandrySlice Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: AFGHANISTAN Posts: 335	Re: trading down we need to keep our 1st rd pick this year, but i belive that if we could get trade to add an extra pick for next year, it would be worth it. Next years draft class is NASTY!

02-15-2008, 08:10 PM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: trading down there doesn't seem to be alot of so called studs in the draft. if the skins can maneuver another pick out of someone, im all for it __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-15-2008, 08:48 PM	#12
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: trading down As FRPLG said, there is no trade down/up fairy. The proposal to trade down has to originate from the team lower attempting to trade up. Our pick would be de-valued if we were making the call to move down, and up-valued if someone lower was proposing to move up. Basic Economics. __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

02-15-2008, 09:12 PM	#13
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: trading down Trading down could be the best thing we could do. Thing is, we won't know until we're on the clock whether to do it. We pick 21st overall. For the 22nd pick the Cowboys last year got 4 picks in that draft, plus a first rounder this year - but that was because of one player on the board. Should we trade down? Sure, if there's one player on the board that makes it happen. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

02-15-2008, 09:14 PM	#14
SpeedyDuncan Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 43	Re: trading down Our recent history has been trading up. From memory, I'm fairly sure that we traded up for Campbell, McIntosh and Cooley.

02-15-2008, 09:16 PM	#15
SpeedyDuncan Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 43	Re: trading down I should claify that McIntosh and Cooley were not 1st rounders. McIntosh (2nd), Cooley (3rd).

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