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Old 11-19-2007, 12:11 AM   #1
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Is Sean Taylor that good or...

I don't think too many people on this site would argue that Sean Taylor's absence was the difference in a game this close. Sure he's a big hitter with speed, this year he's proved he's a great center fielder, and we've known about the ball-hawking.

But rarely does one guy get 3 receiving TDs exposing the same position over and over again in the same game. With an NFL ready 6th overall pick playing the opposite safety position, that just shouldn't happen.

So my question, is Sean Taylor really that much of an unbelievable force, or is our safety depth just that miserable?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:18 AM   #2
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The safety play opposite Landry gets a F grade today. Possibly an F-
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:30 AM   #3
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Its a combo of 3 things- two secondary starters out, no quality depth, an d no pass rush
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:35 AM   #4
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Its a combo of 3 things- two secondary starters out, no quality depth, an d no pass rush
I know Romo was sacked only once, but hurried at least a dozen times, and hit 9 or 10. That's not killing it, but not awful for pass rush.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:38 AM   #5
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If ST was playing that game at LEAST 2 of those TDs to TO dont happen and he prob. would have picked one. TO knows ST is one of the few people in the NFL that has just shut him down. TO always looks scared when ST is there, a player like Sean can shut down a TO or a Randy Moss but RD and PP just cant even hang with that caliber of player.
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:53 AM   #6
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I don't think too many people on this site would argue that Sean Taylor's absence was the difference in a game this close. Sure he's a big hitter with speed, this year he's proved he's a great center fielder, and we've known about the ball-hawking.

But rarely does one guy get 3 receiving TDs exposing the same position over and over again in the same game. With an NFL ready 6th overall pick playing the opposite safety position, that just shouldn't happen.

So my question, is Sean Taylor really that much of an unbelievable force, or is our safety depth just that miserable?


No man, this isn't an either/or thing. It's both. Taylor is an unbelievable force, maybe the best safety in the game or at least tied w/ Sanders and Polemalu (how the f do you spell his name?).

And our backups to ST mostly suck... Praylow not big enough to punish a guy like TO, same w/ Fox, and Doughty (obviously) is still wet behind the ears.

That said, I think GW fucked up today! Landry should have been shifted back to FS for the whole game w/ Praylow or Doughty switching at SS. Landry is faster than both, much bigger hitter, and was best FS in college last year easy. Williams still doesn't think a rookie can handle the big show, I say he f'd up today. Landry in FS all day and TO would have been drilled on at least one of those TD's.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:18 AM   #7
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Yes, Sean Taylor is THAT good. No, Sean Taylor cannot be replaced [neither can Fletcher-Baker].

And yes, Dallas is THAT good, too.

Williams likes Prioleau because he is versatile, can play safety and corner and be decent. Yes, he misplayed TO a couple of times.

There is a reason why Vernon Fox, Reed Douty and Prioleau are reserves and you saw it. They can handle ordinary receivers, but struggle -- like everyone else -- against the elite.

The Redskins showed a lot of "team" today. Teams leverage their strengths to overcome their weaknesses. Team Redskins almost got it done. If they play like that the rest of the season, there will be a post-season.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:26 AM   #8
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I know Romo was sacked only once, but hurried at least a dozen times, and hit 9 or 10. That's not killing it, but not awful for pass rush.
I remember you mentioning this during the game thread, i believe the lack of pressure allowed those open recievers. However I also do believe Taylor is that good. If we had him for the game yesterday i garuntee you T.O. would not have had 4 touchdowns.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:51 AM   #9
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It's not just the plays he would have made within the schemes they used today (and I think he could have defended the first longer one on 3rd and 13 and certainly he would have tackled Owens on the last one), it's the fact that with him they can use other schemes that might have worked better than the ones we used today.

On this topic, is anyone else fed up with the Tampa 2? I'm sick and tired of seeing Fletcher trying to run with the speedsters down the middle. It reminds me too much of Lemar Marshall who was equally unable to do the impossible. What happened to Cover 3? Why not try some Man under? Let Fletcher take the back out of the backfield or blitz or spy or anything other than cover the deep middle.
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Sean Taylor is just that valuable. With him in the game I could see maybe one big play to T.O. but definitely not three!
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:52 AM   #11
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Before we crucify GW or anyone else on the Skins D, let's remember that we held one of the most potent offenses in football to 28 points at home; not too shabby a job. Dallas has a lot of offensive threats, and the Skins were able to prevent Whitten and Jones from beating them, which is what you have to do- make their best players beat you. I'll take 28 points in Dallas anyday, especially with a significantly injured secondary.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:25 AM   #12
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Sean Taylor is that good. His absence cost us the Eagles game and this game. HE IS A FLAT OUT BALLER. A huge diffenrence maker on our team and we need him with Carlos out, and all those Carlos haters out there can suck it. That guy is a baller too. We do need another young CB to replace Springs when the time comes.

Sean Taylor is awesome and let's pay that man his money.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:45 AM   #13
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Re: Is Sean Taylor that good or...

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Yes, Sean Taylor is THAT good. No, Sean Taylor cannot be replaced [neither can Fletcher-Baker].

And yes, Dallas is THAT good, too.

Williams likes Prioleau because he is versatile, can play safety and corner and be decent. Yes, he misplayed TO a couple of times.

There is a reason why Vernon Fox, Reed Douty and Prioleau are reserves and you saw it. They can handle ordinary receivers, but struggle -- like everyone else -- against the elite.

The Redskins showed a lot of "team" today. Teams leverage their strengths to overcome their weaknesses. Team Redskins almost got it done. If they play like that the rest of the season, there will be a post-season.
Great post. Our backups at safety are adequate most of the time, but will be exploited by elite QBs/WRs. TO and Randy Moss have NEVER had a big game against the Skins with Taylor patrolling the middle - look it up. Yes, he's that good.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:57 AM   #14
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Re: Is Sean Taylor that good or...

As I sat there watching TO catch those passes, all I could think of was, "this would not be happening with #21 back there."

The one thing that really got me pissed was that pathetic attempt at a tackle by Prioleau (sp?) on the sideline. I know TO has done that to a lot of people but it was pretty sad.

Oh well, time to wint 6 straight and make the playoffs!
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:02 AM   #15
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Re: Is Sean Taylor that good or...

reed doughretys play on crayton when he tackled him before the ball got there was a prime example of how our secondary was MIA..positive notes were we did get pressure on romo he just stood in the pocket and got a few balls deep
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