With Friends Like These....

DFI · 11-13-2007, 08:44 PM

Who Needs Enemies? That's what I want to know. I don't post much but I read daily, as well as during every game. Thank God for free speech and all but personally I get sick of reading "There Goes the Season" after every fumble and "...Needs to step down" after every loss.

I commented on this in the game thread Sunday and someone said that is what fans do.

I have been around since George Allen an the over the hill gang and have been a fan the whole time. When the games aren't televised in my area I watch the stupid lines on NFL.com I don't miss a game and I love the skins. traveling big distances to take my son to two games this year Cardinals at home (10/21) and Giants in NY (12/16) I consider myself a diehard fan.

That being said...I no nothing about how to coach an NFL team and even less about playing at that level. Its easy to second guess and lay blame but none of us are on the payroll...becuase we are not quailfied....

I am just saying they need our support not what goes on much of the time on many of these threads.

my 2 cents

Skinsfan1967 · 11-13-2007, 09:12 PM

Thank you for starting a thread that does not bash the team. I agree completely with your observations.

skinsguy · 11-13-2007, 09:22 PM

Of course the negatively nellys of the board will say, "so we can't be free to speak our opinions and blah blah blah....we're just being realists!!"

The hater aids don't like their fandom being questioned, but I agree with you 100%. Trust me, if the Redskins start getting on a winning streak, you'll see the haters drop off the board like crazy. Heck, it happens everytime we win a game. You'll especially see it if we beat the Cowboys this weekend. They thrive on bashing the team and would rather care about being right in order to prove a point, rather than to be pleasantly surprised. It's almost a compulsive obession with being miserable I guess.

SFREDSKIN · 11-13-2007, 09:32 PM

Is nice to know there is another old man like myself on the board, that supports his team thru thick and thin and stays on the bandwagon whether winning or losing. That's what a "real" fan is like. Welcome!!

skinsguy · 11-13-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Is nice to know there is another old man like myself on the board, that supports his team thru thick and thin and stays on the bandwagon whether winning or losing. That's what a "real" fan is like. Welcome!!

Like I stated in another thread, most of us older 'skins fans (I might not be as old as some of you guys, but I witnessed the glory years,) we still see this team as the team that was the elite championship team of the 80's. We just feel that the Redskins have to go through this period of losing in order to accomplish those great things again. Even if it doesn't happen with Gibbs, it will happen!

SFREDSKIN · 11-13-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Like I stated in another thread, most of us older 'skins fans (I might not be as old as some of you guys, but I witnessed the glory years,) we still see this team as the team that was the elite championship team of the 80's. We just feel that the Redskins have to go through this period of losing in order to accomplish those great things again. Even if it doesn't happen with Gibbs, it will happen!

Is like that saying "history repeats itself". I've enjoyed the George Allen days, especially the Dallas rivalry (nothing compares) been thru the losing Pardee years to the best years (Gibbs) back to the losing with Petitbone,Norv, spurrier, Marty, I won't count Gibbs II because he's not done yet.

paulskinsfan · 11-13-2007, 11:00 PM

Ok, Im not picking a fight here, Im truly curious about the mentality of each of you who have posted above. In your opinion, can a "fan" ever post on this site and criticize the Redskins coaches, players and/or organization? Because Im getting a real Ned Flanders vibe from you guys. Oklely Doakley?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-13-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Ok, Im not picking a fight here, Im truly curious about the mentality of each of you who have posted above. In your opinion, can a "fan" ever post on this site and criticize the Redskins coaches, players and/or organization? Because Im getting a real Ned Flanders vibe from you guys. Oklely Doakley?

I don't think anyone on this site thinks we are a great team and I think that people have problems with the players, coaching staff, front office, etc. I think, however, there are a lot of people who are tired of hearing overblown statements about how awful we are, that the coaches are a joke, etc. All I ask for is a little balance, perspective, and thoughtfulness.

BringBackJoeT · 11-13-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Ok, Im not picking a fight here, Im truly curious about the mentality of each of you who have posted above. In your opinion, can a "fan" ever post on this site and criticize the Redskins coaches, players and/or organization? Because Im getting a real Ned Flanders vibe from you guys. Oklely Doakley?

You're getting a Ned Flanders vibe here? Don't you realize that you're not supposed to complain in the face of 15 years of lousy football? Nobody is to blame! All is good!

paulskinsfan · 11-13-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone on this site thinks we are a great team and I think that people have problems with the players, coaching staff, front office, etc. I think, however, there are a lot of people who are tired of hearing overblown statements about how awful we are, that the coaches are a joke, etc. All I ask for is a little balance, perspective, and thoughtfulness.

I would agree, a little balance is good. The problem is, if I started a "I hate the Kool Aid Drinkers" thread, it would last as long as a Chuck Woolery break: 2 minutes, and 2 seconds. It would then be locked, and I could be taking a vacation.

SmootSmack · 11-13-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

I would agree, a little balance is good. The problem is, if I started a "I hate the Kool Aid Drinkers" thread, it would last as long as a Chuck Woolery break: 2 minutes, and 2 seconds. It would then be locked, and I could be taking a vacation.

You should read the Warpath Myth vs Reality thread, and take note of some of the threads and posts we have allowed here.

skinsfan_nn · 11-13-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DFI

Who Needs Enemies? That's what I want to know. I don't post much but I read daily, as well as during every game. Thank God for free speech and all but personally I get sick of reading "There Goes the Season" after every fumble and "...Needs to step down" after every loss.

I commented on this in the game thread Sunday and someone said that is what fans do.

I have been around since George Allen an the over the hill gang and have been a fan the whole time. When the games aren't televised in my area I watch the stupid lines on NFL.com I don't miss a game and I love the skins. traveling big distances to take my son to two games this year Cardinals at home (10/21) and Giants in NY (12/16) I consider myself a diehard fan.

That being said...I no nothing about how to coach an NFL team and even less about playing at that level. Its easy to second guess and lay blame but none of us are on the payroll...becuase we are not quailfied....

I am just saying they need our support not what goes on much of the time on many of these threads.

my 2 cents

Well done, and I totally agree. I also travel long distance to go to EVERY home game.

I'm more times than not floored at the threads and posts on this REDSKIN FAN forum website.

NICE THREAD!

DFI · 11-14-2007, 10:39 AM

Glad to see all of the agreement. I posted and went to bed last night and had no Idea what I would get up to. as far as the comment about no negativity by paulskinsfan. I am not saying no negativity I am saying that the season is not over with every bad play or turnover and some one does not need to be fired after every loss. The skins are not going to run the table any time in the near future so losses are going to happen. I just watched sunday's game on NFL rewind and in my uneducated opinion we were flat outplayed. At 40 I have seen the skins snatch defeat from the jaws of victory more times than I care to remember. No one should step down, no one should be fired, they should come together and get ready for dallas.

firstdown · 11-14-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

I would agree, a little balance is good. The problem is, if I started a "I hate the Kool Aid Drinkers" thread, it would last as long as a Chuck Woolery break: 2 minutes, and 2 seconds. It would then be locked, and I could be taking a vacation.

If that was true why do we have all thes negative threads that have over 100 post?

MTK · 11-14-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

I would agree, a little balance is good. The problem is, if I started a "I hate the Kool Aid Drinkers" thread, it would last as long as a Chuck Woolery break: 2 minutes, and 2 seconds. It would then be locked, and I could be taking a vacation.

Go ahead and start it up and see what happens.

You might be disappointed to still be here tomorrow.

11-13-2007, 08:44 PM	#1
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 57 Posts: 231	With Friends Like These.... Who Needs Enemies? That's what I want to know. I don't post much but I read daily, as well as during every game. Thank God for free speech and all but personally I get sick of reading "There Goes the Season" after every fumble and "...Needs to step down" after every loss. I commented on this in the game thread Sunday and someone said that is what fans do. I have been around since George Allen an the over the hill gang and have been a fan the whole time. When the games aren't televised in my area I watch the stupid lines on NFL.com I don't miss a game and I love the skins. traveling big distances to take my son to two games this year Cardinals at home (10/21) and Giants in NY (12/16) I consider myself a diehard fan. That being said...I no nothing about how to coach an NFL team and even less about playing at that level. Its easy to second guess and lay blame but none of us are on the payroll...becuase we are not quailfied.... I am just saying they need our support not what goes on much of the time on many of these threads. my 2 cents

11-13-2007, 09:12 PM	#2
Skinsfan1967 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frederick, Maryland Age: 57 Posts: 254	Re: With Friends Like These.... Thank you for starting a thread that does not bash the team. I agree completely with your observations. __________________ Yellow41 on Redskinsheads

11-13-2007, 09:22 PM	#3
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: With Friends Like These.... Of course the negatively nellys of the board will say, "so we can't be free to speak our opinions and blah blah blah....we're just being realists!!" The hater aids don't like their fandom being questioned, but I agree with you 100%. Trust me, if the Redskins start getting on a winning streak, you'll see the haters drop off the board like crazy. Heck, it happens everytime we win a game. You'll especially see it if we beat the Cowboys this weekend. They thrive on bashing the team and would rather care about being right in order to prove a point, rather than to be pleasantly surprised. It's almost a compulsive obession with being miserable I guess. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-13-2007, 09:32 PM	#4
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: With Friends Like These.... Is nice to know there is another old man like myself on the board, that supports his team thru thick and thin and stays on the bandwagon whether winning or losing. That's what a "real" fan is like. Welcome!!

11-13-2007, 11:00 PM	#7
paulskinsfan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West VA Posts: 726	Re: With Friends Like These.... Ok, Im not picking a fight here, Im truly curious about the mentality of each of you who have posted above. In your opinion, can a "fan" ever post on this site and criticize the Redskins coaches, players and/or organization? Because Im getting a real Ned Flanders vibe from you guys. Oklely Doakley?

11-14-2007, 10:39 AM	#13
DFI Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On the Road Age: 57 Posts: 231	Re: With Friends Like These.... Glad to see all of the agreement. I posted and went to bed last night and had no Idea what I would get up to. as far as the comment about no negativity by paulskinsfan. I am not saying no negativity I am saying that the season is not over with every bad play or turnover and some one does not need to be fired after every loss. The skins are not going to run the table any time in the near future so losses are going to happen. I just watched sunday's game on NFL rewind and in my uneducated opinion we were flat outplayed. At 40 I have seen the skins snatch defeat from the jaws of victory more times than I care to remember. No one should step down, no one should be fired, they should come together and get ready for dallas.

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