AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one!

Redskins247 · 10-31-2007, 09:28 PM

Didn't know if anyone else had seen this one....this made me feel a little better that they are at least recognizing that the offense has been pathetic.

How does this make you feel?

Redskins' offense back to square one: 'We're starting a whole new year' - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

MTK · 10-31-2007, 10:11 PM

I like the sounds of it. I don't care what they do whether it's run or pass, just get this offense in gear already!

I agree that the excuses for Portis are wearing thin. He needs to start producing.

Redskins_P · 10-31-2007, 10:19 PM

If theres a time for this to happen its now when we face one of the worst defenses in the league. Take advantage of the opportunity and hopefully gain some momentum from it.

I like everything I read, and I really hope it pays dividends for the rest of this season.

Beemnseven · 10-31-2007, 10:28 PM

Why couldn't they have come to this type of awakening before the Patriot game?

Sounds like they aren't changing a thing. It's the same ol' stuff -- "Let's get back to 'Redskins football'" -- except this time, they really, really mean it.

Whoopee.

SmootSmack · 10-31-2007, 10:32 PM

Two years ago we did this "back to basics" approach and went 5-0, last year we did it and finished the season 2-4 but were clearly improved. I think next year we should just do it from game 1.

Seriously though, I don't see exaclty what it is we claim to be doing different now

724Skinsfan · 10-31-2007, 10:37 PM

Decent article. An acknowledgement that something's not right and they need to get it straight before it's too late. It makes sense too to focus more on the run game. I think Wade is better at run blocking than pass protection. He can't be worse. We have to play to our current strengths not to where we want our strengths to be. I like how Randle El, Cartwright and Samuels took the lead. And here's something else that was nice to read...

"TE Todd Yoder (ankle) was the only player limited in practice."

724Skinsfan · 10-31-2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Two years ago we did this "back to basics" approach and went 5-0, last year we did it and finished the season 2-4 but were clearly improved. I think next year we should just do it from game 1.

Seriously though, I don't see exaclty what it is we claim to be doing different now

Probably not listening to players request for certain play packages. There are quite a few instances during the games that several players just don't look like they "feel it". I wouldn't say they're dogging it but I think they might believe there are better plays in that situation.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-31-2007, 10:46 PM

I've got to admit it, I've got mixed feelings about the article. I liked the overall tone, i.e., the players getting involved, getting fired up, etc. But, frankly, I am surprised that we are re-committing ourselves to the run, run, run offense. Maybe things will change, but our O-line hasn't been opening up any running lanes and I would have expected us to start passing more, not less.

djnemo65 · 10-31-2007, 11:11 PM

This disturbing thing implied in this article is that some of the players haven't been fully on board with the gameplans. If that's true, then changing such attitudes would do a lot, imo.

Longtimefan · 10-31-2007, 11:33 PM

Everything that was said is great, now all they need to do is put it into action and we'll all live happily ever after.......Like words becoming deeds.

FRPLG · 10-31-2007, 11:49 PM

I guess there is hope but I disagree that Portis' situation isn't health related. He looks like a shell of himself and clearly has lost explosiveness and power. Hopefully not permanently.

MTRedskinsFan · 10-31-2007, 11:49 PM

Yeah baby I like this article. Like djnemo65 said above it sort of reveals some guys have not bought into the play-calling/gameplan up to this pt (as if it wasn't obvious enough on gameday!). Who's to say whether they will totally buy in going forward, but it sounds like it should be a better situation going forward.

Also, the article referred to the hybrid offense. IMO this has been the biggest f'n problem. It's not really Gibbs' gameplan or Saunders gameplan but a weakened compromise. If either guy were to fully takeover the result would be better than what we've seen. My personal opinion is that Saunders full takeover will yield the very best results (if or when that actually happens), but for now if the offense is going to return more heavily to Gibbs style attack, w/ the whole o-line digging in for battle in the trenches, we should see some improvement. Gibbs is smashmouth, and hopefully it can be done w/ the players we have today. When Thomas gets back Gibbs' smashmouth will work even better. Meanwhile, Saunders relies on a rhythm of play-calling to constantly throw the defense off kilter (remember KC). His style probably requires a higher level of execution and for everyone to be onboard, but I think in today's NFL it can be more effective than the smashmouth.

Beemnseven · 10-31-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Also, the article referred to the hybrid offense. IMO this has been the biggest f'n problem. It's not really Gibbs' gameplan or Saunders gameplan but a weakened compromise.

A-freakin'-men. Pick a scheme, a philosophy, a playcaller, and stick with it.

GB1 · 11-01-2007, 12:16 AM

The Skins' offense might be too predictable. If you're really that good it might not make any difference -- go right at em -- but hardly nobody in the NFL is that good.

Case in point - the Patriots! Watch Brady break the huddle and walk up to the line: you have no idea what they're going to do. They do not telegraph their plays! I think the Pats are the best in the league at this right now. Small points like this make the difference at pro league level.

JWsleep · 11-01-2007, 03:10 AM

Look, they've got to find some way to run the ball effectively--3.whatever is not doing it. That doesn't mean going back to smash-mouth--it just means finding SOME running plays that work for us. And that SHOULD open up the passing game and give JC more time. So it need not mean a "return to JG football" whatever that means. But something has to change on O.

About players not buying into stuff--we'll, they have not been getting it done, one way or another. Finish your blocks, make the right reads, find that extra push on 3rd and short--whatever! Get it done!

10-31-2007, 09:28 PM	#1
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10-31-2007, 10:11 PM	#2
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10-31-2007, 10:28 PM	#4
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Why couldn't they have come to this type of awakening before the Patriot game? Sounds like they aren't changing a thing. It's the same ol' stuff -- "Let's get back to 'Redskins football'" -- except this time, they really, really mean it. Whoopee.

10-31-2007, 10:32 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Two years ago we did this "back to basics" approach and went 5-0, last year we did it and finished the season 2-4 but were clearly improved. I think next year we should just do it from game 1. Seriously though, I don't see exaclty what it is we claim to be doing different now __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-31-2007, 10:37 PM	#6
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Decent article. An acknowledgement that something's not right and they need to get it straight before it's too late. It makes sense too to focus more on the run game. I think Wade is better at run blocking than pass protection. He can't be worse. We have to play to our current strengths not to where we want our strengths to be. I like how Randle El, Cartwright and Samuels took the lead. And here's something else that was nice to read... "TE Todd Yoder (ankle) was the only player limited in practice." __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-31-2007, 10:46 PM	#8
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! I've got to admit it, I've got mixed feelings about the article. I liked the overall tone, i.e., the players getting involved, getting fired up, etc. But, frankly, I am surprised that we are re-committing ourselves to the run, run, run offense. Maybe things will change, but our O-line hasn't been opening up any running lanes and I would have expected us to start passing more, not less.

10-31-2007, 11:11 PM	#9
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! This disturbing thing implied in this article is that some of the players haven't been fully on board with the gameplans. If that's true, then changing such attitudes would do a lot, imo.

10-31-2007, 11:33 PM	#10
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Everything that was said is great, now all they need to do is put it into action and we'll all live happily ever after.......Like words becoming deeds. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

10-31-2007, 11:49 PM	#11
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! I guess there is hope but I disagree that Portis' situation isn't health related. He looks like a shell of himself and clearly has lost explosiveness and power. Hopefully not permanently.

10-31-2007, 11:49 PM	#12
MTRedskinsFan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 359	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Yeah baby I like this article. Like djnemo65 said above it sort of reveals some guys have not bought into the play-calling/gameplan up to this pt (as if it wasn't obvious enough on gameday!). Who's to say whether they will totally buy in going forward, but it sounds like it should be a better situation going forward. Also, the article referred to the hybrid offense. IMO this has been the biggest f'n problem. It's not really Gibbs' gameplan or Saunders gameplan but a weakened compromise. If either guy were to fully takeover the result would be better than what we've seen. My personal opinion is that Saunders full takeover will yield the very best results (if or when that actually happens), but for now if the offense is going to return more heavily to Gibbs style attack, w/ the whole o-line digging in for battle in the trenches, we should see some improvement. Gibbs is smashmouth, and hopefully it can be done w/ the players we have today. When Thomas gets back Gibbs' smashmouth will work even better. Meanwhile, Saunders relies on a rhythm of play-calling to constantly throw the defense off kilter (remember KC). His style probably requires a higher level of execution and for everyone to be onboard, but I think in today's NFL it can be more effective than the smashmouth.

11-01-2007, 12:16 AM	#14
GB1 Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 17	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! The Skins' offense might be too predictable. If you're really that good it might not make any difference -- go right at em -- but hardly nobody in the NFL is that good. Case in point - the Patriots! Watch Brady break the huddle and walk up to the line: you have no idea what they're going to do. They do not telegraph their plays! I think the Pats are the best in the league at this right now. Small points like this make the difference at pro league level.

11-01-2007, 03:10 AM	#15
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Re: AP Article: Redskins offense back to square one! Look, they've got to find some way to run the ball effectively--3.whatever is not doing it. That doesn't mean going back to smash-mouth--it just means finding SOME running plays that work for us. And that SHOULD open up the passing game and give JC more time. So it need not mean a "return to JG football" whatever that means. But something has to change on O. About players not buying into stuff--we'll, they have not been getting it done, one way or another. Finish your blocks, make the right reads, find that extra push on 3rd and short--whatever! Get it done! __________________ Hail from Houston!

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