Another Brandon Lloyd Thread

12thMan · 10-09-2007, 01:48 PM

I noticed almost immediately after Lloyd got his first reception, the crowd responded with a supportive cheer, and so did the sidelines.

I know it was just one catch, but maybe it's the beginning of him seeing more playing time, who knows. It's just good to see the team supporting him in that way.

It would be nice if he could contribute this Sunday. Maybe he should steal a page from Mike Seller's book and nag the hell out of Gibbs until he get's in the game.

724Skinsfan · 10-09-2007, 01:51 PM

I agree. I also noticed his second effort to get more yards. Seemed interested in playing his guts out.

BrudLee · 10-09-2007, 01:57 PM

A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward:

He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more.
He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook.
On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates.

What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing.

Hog1 · 10-09-2007, 02:09 PM

If Lloyd would show ANY real sign of promise, he would play. I have noticed several players commenting, "nice to see Lloyd get some work", etc. If he could just learn to fight his guts out...........ehh 724?

EternalEnigma21 · 10-09-2007, 02:11 PM

In light of our receiving situation and given his effort on the chance he was given most recently, I think we'll have to look his way again in more instances this season, but he's likely gone next year unless he really lights it up or something...

Just keep in mind McCardell has Double the catches for 4x the yards and he's been with the team for what... 2 weeks?

The Zimmermans · 10-09-2007, 02:11 PM

Lloyd obviously has a bad attitude in the locker room and does not respect saunders and gibbs.......none of this has to do with his talent.....he's not a prototypical CORE redskin, so he doesnt see the field. This has pluses and minuses...the plus is that it keeps all TEAM players on the field, and limits boneheaded penalties, and guarentee's 100% on every play from every player since they are concerned with the TEAM. Llloyd is out 2nd or 3rd most talented receiver...but he obviously has the worst attitude of all the receivers. That IS what separates dallas from washington.....character

RobH4413 · 10-09-2007, 02:12 PM

Someone told me he was on the Junkies the other day and was saying all the right things (again?). Saying he just wants to help the team while he's here, and if it means making catches, then he'll do it, if it means playing on the scout defense, then so be it.

I was told that after the interview they all were saying he was just a scapegoat and he just wasn't getting thrown the ball.

He's got to change his work ethic (from what I hear it's pathetic) if he wants any shot of staying on this squad.

Southpaw · 10-09-2007, 02:30 PM

I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season.

I think the Lloyd situation is similar to the Arrington situation, in that he's obviously more talented than the guys in front of him, but his attitude has him in the doghouse. I was one of the few that was very vocal in defense of Arrington, but I don't have the same feelings for B. Lloyd. IMO, you could at least see that Lavar was giving it his all when he was on the field. Lloyd on the other hand, gives little effort. During the Junkies interview, he actually admitted to loafing after the jump ball pick in the Dolphins game... That's bullshit. Talented or not, I'd leave his ass on the bench with that kind of attitude.

MTK · 10-09-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season.

I think that's it exactly.

Regarding the crowd reaction, I thought the crowd reacted in almost a surprised kind of way to his catch.

1 catch, 9 yards, and here we are talking about this bum yet again. I don't get it.

mlmpetert · 10-09-2007, 02:36 PM

"It's going to take all of us together," Randle El said. "I was excited that Brandon came in and caught a pass. Same thing with Keenan--he came right in and he had two big catches to help us move the ball downfield."

I thought this was pretty interesting. Randle is a pretty class guy so he might just be suportive no matter what, but it seems he almost has hopes for Lloyd

Randle El Expects to Play vs. Packers

Hail2em · 10-09-2007, 03:02 PM

we sign kennan a week ago and he catches 3 balls and brandon catches his first 5 games in what a joke. why do we have him?

hooskins · 10-09-2007, 03:06 PM

Guys the reality of the situation is we are going to keep him for a while because of salary cap implications. Also he does have talent.

Because of those two facts I think you must give him more chances and hope he does well. Again I don't think he should get countless chances. But like last game, give him a couple easy plays to run, and then progress. If there is no improvement, then leave it as it is.

70Chip · 10-09-2007, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrudLee

A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward:

He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more.
He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook.
On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates.

What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing.

A nice, tidy post. I agree that Lloyd dove before they could hit him. He should have gained the first down on that one. But, that's how he rolls. He hates contact. McCardell fits in much better with his zone-beating prowess over the middle. I could see Keenan catching 30 to 35 balls the rest of the way.

Brandon will leave in the offseason, but I don't think the Redskins should be closed-minded about him. He has certain athletic qualities that make him unique and he may be of some usefullness at some point this year. Also, if injuries persist, they may not have a choice. I think that's what happened Sunday. I don't think he was going to play until Randle-El was hurt. He then had to go in on certain pakages because he's the only one left.

mooby · 10-09-2007, 03:14 PM

I think it's nice to see the crowd and players support Brandon like that. It shows that we are willing and patient and we still want him to contribute and be a positive member of the team. I'm not saying we need to put him back in as a #2 or anything along those lines, just that give him a couple more touches a game.

skinsfan69 · 10-09-2007, 03:24 PM

I think they just need to put his ass in the game and throw him the damn ball. He can't do anything is he's not in the game.

10-09-2007, 01:48 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I noticed almost immediately after Lloyd got his first reception, the crowd responded with a supportive cheer, and so did the sidelines. I know it was just one catch, but maybe it's the beginning of him seeing more playing time, who knows. It's just good to see the team supporting him in that way. It would be nice if he could contribute this Sunday. Maybe he should steal a page from Mike Seller's book and nag the hell out of Gibbs until he get's in the game.

10-09-2007, 01:57 PM	#3
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward: He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more. He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook. On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates. What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

10-09-2007, 02:09 PM	#4
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread If Lloyd would show ANY real sign of promise, he would play. I have noticed several players commenting, "nice to see Lloyd get some work", etc. If he could just learn to fight his guts out...........ehh 724? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-09-2007, 02:11 PM	#5
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread In light of our receiving situation and given his effort on the chance he was given most recently, I think we'll have to look his way again in more instances this season, but he's likely gone next year unless he really lights it up or something... Just keep in mind McCardell has Double the catches for 4x the yards and he's been with the team for what... 2 weeks? __________________ I am the brute squad.

10-09-2007, 02:11 PM	#6
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread Lloyd obviously has a bad attitude in the locker room and does not respect saunders and gibbs.......none of this has to do with his talent.....he's not a prototypical CORE redskin, so he doesnt see the field. This has pluses and minuses...the plus is that it keeps all TEAM players on the field, and limits boneheaded penalties, and guarentee's 100% on every play from every player since they are concerned with the TEAM. Llloyd is out 2nd or 3rd most talented receiver...but he obviously has the worst attitude of all the receivers. That IS what separates dallas from washington.....character __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-09-2007, 01:51 PM	#2
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I agree. I also noticed his second effort to get more yards. Seemed interested in playing his guts out. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-09-2007, 02:12 PM	#7
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread Someone told me he was on the Junkies the other day and was saying all the right things (again?). Saying he just wants to help the team while he's here, and if it means making catches, then he'll do it, if it means playing on the scout defense, then so be it. I was told that after the interview they all were saying he was just a scapegoat and he just wasn't getting thrown the ball. He's got to change his work ethic (from what I hear it's pathetic) if he wants any shot of staying on this squad. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-09-2007, 02:30 PM	#8
Southpaw The Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: So. MD Age: 46 Posts: 1,319	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season. I think the Lloyd situation is similar to the Arrington situation, in that he's obviously more talented than the guys in front of him, but his attitude has him in the doghouse. I was one of the few that was very vocal in defense of Arrington, but I don't have the same feelings for B. Lloyd. IMO, you could at least see that Lavar was giving it his all when he was on the field. Lloyd on the other hand, gives little effort. During the Junkies interview, he actually admitted to loafing after the jump ball pick in the Dolphins game... That's bullshit. Talented or not, I'd leave his ass on the bench with that kind of attitude.

10-09-2007, 02:36 PM	#10
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread "It's going to take all of us together," Randle El said. "I was excited that Brandon came in and caught a pass. Same thing with Keenan--he came right in and he had two big catches to help us move the ball downfield." I thought this was pretty interesting. Randle is a pretty class guy so he might just be suportive no matter what, but it seems he almost has hopes for Lloyd Randle El Expects to Play vs. Packers

10-09-2007, 03:02 PM	#11
Hail2em Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Va. Beach, Virginia Posts: 229	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread we sign kennan a week ago and he catches 3 balls and brandon catches his first 5 games in what a joke. why do we have him?

10-09-2007, 03:06 PM	#12
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread Guys the reality of the situation is we are going to keep him for a while because of salary cap implications. Also he does have talent. Because of those two facts I think you must give him more chances and hope he does well. Again I don't think he should get countless chances. But like last game, give him a couple easy plays to run, and then progress. If there is no improvement, then leave it as it is. __________________ Vacancy

10-09-2007, 03:14 PM	#14
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I think it's nice to see the crowd and players support Brandon like that. It shows that we are willing and patient and we still want him to contribute and be a positive member of the team. I'm not saying we need to put him back in as a #2 or anything along those lines, just that give him a couple more touches a game. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-09-2007, 03:24 PM	#15
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I think they just need to put his ass in the game and throw him the damn ball. He can't do anything is he's not in the game.

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