Eagles/Ravens game

70Chip · 08-14-2007, 01:01 AM

Anybody watch this? I thought the Eagles D looked like crap. It's a good thing they blitz a lot during the regular season because they can't play the base defense very well. Trotter is extremely slow. Jim Johnson really does a great job of putting him in the right spot because when he has to run to it, it takes a long time. They are all scheme. Player for player they don't match up that well. That's my take anyway.

dmek25 · 08-14-2007, 08:40 AM

they were very vanilla. but they are also very old on defense. i thought Trotter looked slow last season. but as long as they have those corners, and Dawkins back there, they will still be alright. and Jimmy Johnson doesn't get near the credit he deserves

BleedBurgundy · 08-14-2007, 08:56 AM

That running back from Penn State that they drafted... looked horrible. No burst, no vision. I was really surprised.

heybigstar · 08-14-2007, 09:05 AM

The Ravens also looked very, very good, top-to-bottom.

Jared Gaither, can't believe they got what very well could be Ogden's replacement with a 5th rounder.

chrisl13 · 08-15-2007, 02:08 AM

well we know who's gonna be last in our division.
3 syllables: PA-THE-TIC

steveo395 · 08-15-2007, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisl13

well we know who's gonna be last in our division.
3 syllables: PA-THE-TIC

uuhhh the giants?

firstdown · 08-15-2007, 10:21 AM

Like I said after our first preseason game it just too early to tell.

ArtMonkDrillz · 08-15-2007, 10:34 AM

How about that REALLY cheap shot by the ravens lineback on the eagles punter?
It seemed extremely dirty and I'm shocked that it didn't start a huge fight. The guy from the ravens completely blindsided the punter, who was just sort of jogging down the field not paying attention.
I know it's football and that the LB was trying to prove his toughness or whatever, but it was really a cheap shot on a guy who was jsut in there to kick the ball away.

BleedBurgundy · 08-15-2007, 12:11 PM

AMD: Aren't the Ravens known for that kind of thing? It's one of the reasons I find it hard to ever root for them.

Schneed10 · 08-15-2007, 12:35 PM

The Eagles definitely have a weakness when it comes to run defense, IMO. If they're going to get better, they need Broderick Bunkley to really step it up. Trotter is good at holding down the middle, but he can be too aggressive when he has to run sideline to sideline, and he often overpursues. I thought McGahee ran pretty well against them and I can see teams running on the Eagles with relative ease (including us).

I think their secondary will still be nasty though. Once McGahee exited the game, the Eagles did a pretty good job of forcing the Ravens into third and longs, they just didn't get off the field because they didn't bring the blitz on third down. They just dropped into coverage. You can bet they wouldn't take that approach during the regular season; they'll be bringing the noise with the blitz.

The question is, if McGahee had stayed in the game, would the Eagles have even seen any 3rd and longs? Hard to say.

They definitely need to stop the run better. But whether they do that or not, I still like their chances at generating lots of turnovers. They'll be a force, unfortunately.

70Chip · 08-21-2007, 01:51 PM

Allow myself to quote myself...

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Anybody watch this? I thought the Eagles D looked like crap. It's a good thing they blitz a lot during the regular season because they can't play the base defense very well. Trotter is extremely slow. Jim Johnson really does a great job of putting him in the right spot because when he has to run to it, it takes a long time. They are all scheme. Player for player they don't match up that well. That's my take anyway.

Obviously Andy Reid is a big fan of mine.

mlmpetert · 08-21-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by heybigstar

The Ravens also looked very, very good, top-to-bottom.

Jared Gaither, can't believe they got what very well could be Ogden's replacement with a 5th rounder.

Hes been nothing but impressive from everything ive heard - and it was reported that he wanted to come here, and grew up a Redskins fan on SportsNet

08-14-2007, 01:01 AM	#1
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Eagles/Ravens game Anybody watch this? I thought the Eagles D looked like crap. It's a good thing they blitz a lot during the regular season because they can't play the base defense very well. Trotter is extremely slow. Jim Johnson really does a great job of putting him in the right spot because when he has to run to it, it takes a long time. They are all scheme. Player for player they don't match up that well. That's my take anyway. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

08-14-2007, 08:40 AM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Eagles/Ravens game they were very vanilla. but they are also very old on defense. i thought Trotter looked slow last season. but as long as they have those corners, and Dawkins back there, they will still be alright. and Jimmy Johnson doesn't get near the credit he deserves __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

08-14-2007, 08:56 AM	#3
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Eagles/Ravens game That running back from Penn State that they drafted... looked horrible. No burst, no vision. I was really surprised. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

08-14-2007, 09:05 AM	#4
heybigstar Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 375	Re: Eagles/Ravens game The Ravens also looked very, very good, top-to-bottom. Jared Gaither, can't believe they got what very well could be Ogden's replacement with a 5th rounder. __________________ Hail to the Redskins.

08-15-2007, 02:08 AM	#5
chrisl13 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 2 Minutes away from Fedex Field, Maryland Posts: 363	Re: Eagles/Ravens game well we know who's gonna be last in our division. 3 syllables: PA-THE-TIC

08-15-2007, 10:21 AM	#7
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Eagles/Ravens game Like I said after our first preseason game it just too early to tell.

08-15-2007, 10:34 AM	#8
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: Eagles/Ravens game How about that REALLY cheap shot by the ravens lineback on the eagles punter? It seemed extremely dirty and I'm shocked that it didn't start a huge fight. The guy from the ravens completely blindsided the punter, who was just sort of jogging down the field not paying attention. I know it's football and that the LB was trying to prove his toughness or whatever, but it was really a cheap shot on a guy who was jsut in there to kick the ball away. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

08-15-2007, 12:11 PM	#9
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Eagles/Ravens game AMD: Aren't the Ravens known for that kind of thing? It's one of the reasons I find it hard to ever root for them. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

08-15-2007, 12:35 PM	#10
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,431	Re: Eagles/Ravens game The Eagles definitely have a weakness when it comes to run defense, IMO. If they're going to get better, they need Broderick Bunkley to really step it up. Trotter is good at holding down the middle, but he can be too aggressive when he has to run sideline to sideline, and he often overpursues. I thought McGahee ran pretty well against them and I can see teams running on the Eagles with relative ease (including us). I think their secondary will still be nasty though. Once McGahee exited the game, the Eagles did a pretty good job of forcing the Ravens into third and longs, they just didn't get off the field because they didn't bring the blitz on third down. They just dropped into coverage. You can bet they wouldn't take that approach during the regular season; they'll be bringing the noise with the blitz. The question is, if McGahee had stayed in the game, would the Eagles have even seen any 3rd and longs? Hard to say. They definitely need to stop the run better. But whether they do that or not, I still like their chances at generating lots of turnovers. They'll be a force, unfortunately. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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