Player's Weight

skins009 · 07-01-2007, 10:19 PM

Boys,
I was just browsing through the Redskins roster on redskins.com and it looks like they keep player height and weight data up to date. Three things stood out to me.

First Sean taylor at 212. This has already been discussed, he's dropped a lot of weight to be faster and a better ball hawk at the free safety position.

Second Clinton Portis at 223. Thats a lot heavier than what I was expecting. I think Portis is best at about 210 to 215 that way he is explosive but also hasthe power and pass protection strength that he does so well.

Third and most concerning Jon Jansen 297. I'm sure lots of people like myself have noticed a big dropoff in Jansens play. I think this number best describes the issue. He was lost his power. I don't know if it's because he can't lift weights with his injured thumbs or what. But Jansen playing RT should be at least 15 pounds heavier.
Discuss further!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-01-2007, 10:21 PM

theu will be fine by training camp i am not worried at all.

SmootSmack · 07-01-2007, 10:31 PM

First time I've noticed those weights. All the O-lineman look to be hovering around 300-310. And then you've got Will Whit clocking close to 360!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-01-2007, 11:06 PM

Whit is a fat ass

Skins_4_Lyfe · 07-02-2007, 06:01 AM

Still not sold on Sean dropping 20lbs., that (his weight) was the one thing that made him unique.

dmek25 · 07-02-2007, 06:51 AM

Jansen is all about technique, not power. the thumbs could be hindering that. none of this is anything to get too worked up about

FRPLG · 07-02-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

Still not sold on Sean dropping 20lbs., that (his weight) was the one thing that made him unique.

Ummm huh?

The thingS that makes him unique is the fact that he is faster than CBs and hits like a linebacker. His weight is not an issue.

gabe1984 · 07-02-2007, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

Still not sold on Sean dropping 20lbs., that (his weight) was the one thing that made him unique.

I gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you here. Taylor was incredibly fast for how much he weighed. and now he's going to be even faster. In addition, losing weight does not necessarily mean that he's lost strength, I guarantee he can still lay it on somebody. There are a lot of hard hitting safties in the league that do not weigh as much as Taylor does, even now. Ed Reed weighs 200lbs and Bob Sanders weighs 206lbs.
Those guys both hit very hard.

MTK · 07-02-2007, 08:34 AM

Taylor is going to be a true free safety this year so he's obviously focusing on coverage vs. run support. Losing the weight should only make him faster which is scary.

freddyg12 · 07-02-2007, 09:20 AM

Good thread for a dull time in the offseason. Talk about attention to details!

Jansen seemed to always play about 300 -305, maybe 310. This does seem a little light for him, but I think it sounds encouraging. It could go either way, he may have lost weight cause he's not maintaining muscle mass & is out of shape, or he might be fit & has slimmed down to get as quick as he can. DEs are always lighter the OT's so he'll have no problems matching up in the run blocking. He's slower w/age as all are, so it will help him if he's a little lighter.

ST's weight says to me that maybe he'd gotten a little fat last year & that affected his play in coverage. Good news that he's lost it. He's got to stop thinking he's a linebacker.

Portis is the one that concerns me. He may be getting fat due to his recovery limiting his activity. He could be slow to get into shape. Good thing Betts is signed.

MTK · 07-02-2007, 09:29 AM

Who knows when they even update these things. Depending on what site you check you can find a pretty wide range of listed weights for these guys. I wouldn't get too excited over anything.

12thMan · 07-02-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Who knows when they even update these things. Depending on what site you check you can find a pretty wide range of listed weights for these guys. I wouldn't get too excited over anything.

Exactly. It's possible that Taylor was heavier than what was listed last season.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-02-2007, 10:49 AM

I hear at one point last ear ST was about 240.

Duffman003 · 07-02-2007, 01:59 PM

i thought teams always lied about height and weight anyway

skinsfan69 · 07-02-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skins009

Boys,
I was just browsing through the Redskins roster on redskins.com and it looks like they keep player height and weight data up to date. Three things stood out to me.

First Sean taylor at 212. This has already been discussed, he's dropped a lot of weight to be faster and a better ball hawk at the free safety position.

Second Clinton Portis at 223. Thats a lot heavier than what I was expecting. I think Portis is best at about 210 to 215 that way he is explosive but also hasthe power and pass protection strength that he does so well.

Third and most concerning Jon Jansen 297. I'm sure lots of people like myself have noticed a big dropoff in Jansens play. I think this number best describes the issue. He was lost his power. I don't know if it's because he can't lift weights with his injured thumbs or what. But Jansen playing RT should be at least 15 pounds heavier.
Discuss further!

I would not worry about any of this stuff.

Jansen does not need to be 320lbs to be effective. His current weight is just fine. Denver never has big guys on their line and they do just fine.

CP may be 223 right now but by the 1st game he'll be around 210lbs. These guys will loose weight right away during camp.

ST at 212 is going to be scary. He is going to be faster and ballhawking all over the field. This should hopefully help him in coverage.

07-01-2007, 10:19 PM	#1
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Player's Weight Boys, I was just browsing through the Redskins roster on redskins.com and it looks like they keep player height and weight data up to date. Three things stood out to me. First Sean taylor at 212. This has already been discussed, he's dropped a lot of weight to be faster and a better ball hawk at the free safety position. Second Clinton Portis at 223. Thats a lot heavier than what I was expecting. I think Portis is best at about 210 to 215 that way he is explosive but also hasthe power and pass protection strength that he does so well. Third and most concerning Jon Jansen 297. I'm sure lots of people like myself have noticed a big dropoff in Jansens play. I think this number best describes the issue. He was lost his power. I don't know if it's because he can't lift weights with his injured thumbs or what. But Jansen playing RT should be at least 15 pounds heavier. Discuss further!

07-01-2007, 10:21 PM	#2
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Player's Weight theu will be fine by training camp i am not worried at all. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

07-01-2007, 10:31 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Player's Weight First time I've noticed those weights. All the O-lineman look to be hovering around 300-310. And then you've got Will Whit clocking close to 360! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-01-2007, 11:06 PM	#4
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Player's Weight Whit is a fat ass __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

07-02-2007, 06:01 AM	#5
Skins_4_Lyfe Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD/Greensboro, NC Age: 36 Posts: 482	Re: Player's Weight Still not sold on Sean dropping 20lbs., that (his weight) was the one thing that made him unique. __________________ WARRIOR

07-02-2007, 06:51 AM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 62 Posts: 10,672	Re: Player's Weight Jansen is all about technique, not power. the thumbs could be hindering that. none of this is anything to get too worked up about __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

07-02-2007, 08:34 AM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Player's Weight Taylor is going to be a true free safety this year so he's obviously focusing on coverage vs. run support. Losing the weight should only make him faster which is scary. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-02-2007, 09:20 AM	#10
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Player's Weight Good thread for a dull time in the offseason. Talk about attention to details! Jansen seemed to always play about 300 -305, maybe 310. This does seem a little light for him, but I think it sounds encouraging. It could go either way, he may have lost weight cause he's not maintaining muscle mass & is out of shape, or he might be fit & has slimmed down to get as quick as he can. DEs are always lighter the OT's so he'll have no problems matching up in the run blocking. He's slower w/age as all are, so it will help him if he's a little lighter. ST's weight says to me that maybe he'd gotten a little fat last year & that affected his play in coverage. Good news that he's lost it. He's got to stop thinking he's a linebacker. Portis is the one that concerns me. He may be getting fat due to his recovery limiting his activity. He could be slow to get into shape. Good thing Betts is signed.

07-02-2007, 09:29 AM	#11
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: Player's Weight Who knows when they even update these things. Depending on what site you check you can find a pretty wide range of listed weights for these guys. I wouldn't get too excited over anything. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-02-2007, 10:49 AM	#13
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,143	Re: Player's Weight I hear at one point last ear ST was about 240. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

07-02-2007, 01:59 PM	#14
Duffman003 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 601	Re: Player's Weight i thought teams always lied about height and weight anyway __________________ give me food, feed me lunch 'you want water?', B#### give me punch - D12

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