News from the Combine

RMSkins · 02-23-2007, 08:31 PM

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It says that we have been talking to OLB Lawrence Timmons, and CB Chris Houston. I find it extremely interesting that we would be talking to an OLB, and by the looks of these two players it looks like we are thinking about trading down. But I am sure we will be talking to a lot of players so I wouldn't put much stock into this. Found this to be interesting and thought I would pass this along.

SmootSmack · 02-24-2007, 02:18 AM

Good stuff. And this was interesting

"Word out of DC has the Redskins trading Ladell Betts and their 6th overall pick to the Jets for Jon Vilma and the Jets 25th overall selection."

56FAN · 02-24-2007, 05:45 AM

i'd love to get vilma, but i would hate to lose betts

jamf · 02-24-2007, 06:28 AM

Can't we find a LB as good as vilma with the 6th pick? why give away betts?

I would hate to lose our 6th pick.

GoSkins! · 02-24-2007, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Good stuff. And this was interesting

"Word out of DC has the Redskins trading Ladell Betts and their 6th overall pick to the Jets for Jon Vilma and the Jets 25th overall selection."

Just to note, the preceeding paragraph starts by saying "unconfirmed rumors abound" and the next says most of the rumors are made up by rabid fans...

i.e. this info could have come from the writer reading stuff here on the warpath.

dmek25 · 02-24-2007, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Good stuff. And this was interesting

"Word out of DC has the Redskins trading Ladell Betts and their 6th overall pick to the Jets for Jon Vilma and the Jets 25th overall selection."

i really hope the skins pull the trigger on this. i love vilma, who is still young, and we can still get a quality lineman with the 25th pick

JGisLordOfTheRings · 02-24-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i really hope the skins pull the trigger on this. i love vilma, who is still young, and we can still get a quality lineman with the 25th pick

TO HELL WITH THAT! Betts had 1154 rushing yards last year and he only started 7 games I think. 7! Add 445 recieving yards and 5 overall TD's and I say thats pretty damn good. Why would we trade a back who has just proved himself as being able to carry a nice load of work AND a high pick for an above average LB and 25th pick? I like Vilma, he's cool and all but WTF! Trading down is not a good idea. On one hand, Vilma could really shore up the defense but then the quality of our pick decreases pretty greatly. Yeah, there might be people at that spot worth taking but, I think the draft could go any which crazy ways so.....ok...I'm too F-ed up right now from staying up all night partying, it's time to sleep. I'll finish this later. Hahah

TrustinGibbs · 02-24-2007, 09:34 AM

If you can get Vilma and say someone like Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame, one of a few guys who will be available at 25 you add two young athletic players to this defense. One player with the #6 pick added to this defense wont make it that much better. Add Vilma, one of the DL's who will be there with the 25th pick, SIgn a corner and this defense could be back to a respectable level in a hurry.

I like Betts but RB depth is useless if you cannot stop anybody and you can find RB depth pretty easilly.

#56fanatic · 02-24-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Good stuff. And this was interesting

"Word out of DC has the Redskins trading Ladell Betts and their 6th overall pick to the Jets for Jon Vilma and the Jets 25th overall selection."

They better get something else for that 6th pick. Betts for vilma, OK, but # 6 for just a #25, no second. that would be a questionable move on our part. we would still be stuck with 1 pick the first day, and a hole to fill at RB, since TJ is a free agent, and all we have is Rock.

BAD MOVE

724Skinsfan · 02-24-2007, 09:55 AM

I don't like the trade, but Vilma is better at LB than Betts is at RB. I don't think that difference is greater than the #6 versus #25 difference but it's not terribly far off. If we have to eat any of Betts contract and pay Vilma a ton then I'm totally against the idea, which so far is really all that it is...a rumor.

dmek25 · 02-24-2007, 10:05 AM

how much do you guys really think betts is going to carry the ball with portis healthy? remember how many carries larry johnson was getting when priest holmes was healthy? rock cartwright can pick up those 7-10 carries. we NEED vilma, a proven all pro middle linebacker

Daseal · 02-24-2007, 10:06 AM

I'd do that trade in a second. Betts is a solid back, but not really a very good blocker and needs to correct his fumbling problems. We get a very good linebacker on a cheap contract and if we really dont give anything up it's a win for us. We still have a full stable of running backs that we can use. Portis is our bell cow.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-24-2007, 10:07 AM

While I'd hate to see Betts go, RBs are easily found in the draft, PRO BOWL LBs are not.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-24-2007, 10:14 AM

"Adalius Thomas is getting love from the New York Jets..."

Interesting, a replacement for Vilma?

Beemnseven · 02-24-2007, 10:22 AM

But how much do we need Vilma if Fletcher is coming to town? We wouldn't get BOTH would we?

The dropoff from #6 to #25 is tremendous. The quality between those to slots is nothing short of a plummet.

I've said all along that our weaknesses on defense outweigh the advantages of running back depth. So we should definitely unload Betts if we can get fair compensation. But the Jets want that #6 pick more than they want Betts.

The whole idea of trading Betts was to pick up MORE draft picks. Not lose value on the highest one we have.

02-23-2007, 08:31 PM	#1
RMSkins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 36 Posts: 1,066	News from the Combine Draft Daddy: Blog : 2007 NFL Draft News as it Breaks: Updated Regularly It says that we have been talking to OLB Lawrence Timmons, and CB Chris Houston. I find it extremely interesting that we would be talking to an OLB, and by the looks of these two players it looks like we are thinking about trading down. But I am sure we will be talking to a lot of players so I wouldn't put much stock into this. Found this to be interesting and thought I would pass this along.

02-24-2007, 05:45 AM	#3
56FAN Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MANASSAS VA Age: 62 Posts: 323	Re: News from the Combine i'd love to get vilma, but i would hate to lose betts

02-24-2007, 06:28 AM	#4
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,296	Re: News from the Combine Can't we find a LB as good as vilma with the 6th pick? why give away betts? I would hate to lose our 6th pick.

02-24-2007, 09:34 AM	#8
TrustinGibbs Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Age: 60 Posts: 104	Re: News from the Combine If you can get Vilma and say someone like Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame, one of a few guys who will be available at 25 you add two young athletic players to this defense. One player with the #6 pick added to this defense wont make it that much better. Add Vilma, one of the DL's who will be there with the 25th pick, SIgn a corner and this defense could be back to a respectable level in a hurry. I like Betts but RB depth is useless if you cannot stop anybody and you can find RB depth pretty easilly.

02-24-2007, 09:55 AM	#10
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: News from the Combine I don't like the trade, but Vilma is better at LB than Betts is at RB. I don't think that difference is greater than the #6 versus #25 difference but it's not terribly far off. If we have to eat any of Betts contract and pay Vilma a ton then I'm totally against the idea, which so far is really all that it is...a rumor. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

02-24-2007, 02:18 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: News from the Combine Good stuff. And this was interesting "Word out of DC has the Redskins trading Ladell Betts and their 6th overall pick to the Jets for Jon Vilma and the Jets 25th overall selection." __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-24-2007, 10:05 AM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: News from the Combine how much do you guys really think betts is going to carry the ball with portis healthy? remember how many carries larry johnson was getting when priest holmes was healthy? rock cartwright can pick up those 7-10 carries. we NEED vilma, a proven all pro middle linebacker __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

02-24-2007, 10:06 AM	#12
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: News from the Combine I'd do that trade in a second. Betts is a solid back, but not really a very good blocker and needs to correct his fumbling problems. We get a very good linebacker on a cheap contract and if we really dont give anything up it's a win for us. We still have a full stable of running backs that we can use. Portis is our bell cow. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

02-24-2007, 10:07 AM	#13
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: News from the Combine While I'd hate to see Betts go, RBs are easily found in the draft, PRO BOWL LBs are not. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-24-2007, 10:14 AM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: News from the Combine "Adalius Thomas is getting love from the New York Jets..." Interesting, a replacement for Vilma? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-24-2007, 10:22 AM	#15
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: News from the Combine But how much do we need Vilma if Fletcher is coming to town? We wouldn't get BOTH would we? The dropoff from #6 to #25 is tremendous. The quality between those to slots is nothing short of a plummet. I've said all along that our weaknesses on defense outweigh the advantages of running back depth. So we should definitely unload Betts if we can get fair compensation. But the Jets want that #6 pick more than they want Betts. The whole idea of trading Betts was to pick up MORE draft picks. Not lose value on the highest one we have.

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