Get Ready For A Change on the Offensive Line!

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 01-04-2007, 04:49 PM

Get ready for a change on the offensive line. Something I thought about on Portis interview was he stated that the dockery can not be pulling out because he trips over is self and then when he stumbles I am left to dry. For some reason I don't think we will resign Dockery. I believe we will pursue the guard from Cincy or a more mobile o-lineman. I actually believe this is a go move if we want to adapt to Saunders offensive scheme. In KC that o-line was incredible and mobile when it came to pulling out on the tosses and sweeps run plays. Clinton Portis is one of my favorite players but he is complaining about the same running plays he was used to in Denver. Before he got here is was known as a cutback runner. If Portis becomes more patient and watch a lot more tape of faulk, holmes, and johnson he would become the best running back in the league hands down. I really believe Al Saunders knows what he is doing. Jos Gibbs need to let Saunders call all of the plays or just let him go and take over himself. I really believe Gibbs wants the same offense he saw in Kansas City and eventually will let Saunders bring in the personnel to do it.

MTK · 01-04-2007, 05:08 PM

Personally I don't think we'll let Dockery go for reasons I outlined in another thread. #1 being continuity. This line as a whole had a very, very good season. I think they were the only line to be in the top 7 in both sacks allowed and rushing yards. There's no reason to disrupt things up front unless Dockery asks for an insane deal.

#2 the team needs to change course and start taking care of their own. Samuels has already stated he would restructure to help free up cash for Dock, and I think with the way this season went Gibbs and co. will push hard to keep Dockery.

MonkFan4Life · 01-04-2007, 05:15 PM

They will resign Dockery. Letting him slip away for an outsider will IMO, be the straw that will break the camels back.

gabe1984 · 01-04-2007, 05:29 PM

Dockery is a good player and I think we should keep him because, as stated before, we need to have some continuity and take care of our own. However, the one thing that drives me nuts about him is the amount of false start penalties that man gets, he really needs to cut back on those.

Schneed10 · 01-04-2007, 05:30 PM

If they don't resign Dockery, the entire team will revolt. The offensive line is one of the last units on the team that isn't backstabbing right now. That unit contains three of our best leaders: Samuels, Jansen, and Randy Thomas. They all want Dock back, and so does Bugel, and so does Gibbs. They're not going to let this one get away.

RobH4413 · 01-04-2007, 05:38 PM

I think signing Dockery is the smartest thing. Our O-line proved that they could gel together and protect Campbell while allowing Betts to amass some pretty insane numbers.

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 01-04-2007, 05:40 PM

They need to resign Dockery for all the reasons already given (continuity being #1). I think they need to add some quality depth in case of the worst-case scenario, but keeping our starting front 5 is a must.

And besides, Betts certainly didn't seem to have any problem running behing these guys.

12thMan · 01-04-2007, 05:42 PM

Okay, it's a consensus thread closed.

firstdown · 01-04-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

Get ready for a change on the offensive line. Something I thought about on Portis interview was he stated that the dockery can not be pulling out because he trips over is self and then when he stumbles I am left to dry. For some reason I don't think we will resign Dockery. I believe we will pursue the guard from Cincy or a more mobile o-lineman. I actually believe this is a go move if we want to adapt to Saunders offensive scheme. In KC that o-line was incredible and mobile when it came to pulling out on the tosses and sweeps run plays. Clinton Portis is one of my favorite players but he is complaining about the same running plays he was used to in Denver. Before he got here is was known as a cutback runner. If Portis becomes more patient and watch a lot more tape of faulk, holmes, and johnson he would become the best running back in the league hands down. I really believe Al Saunders knows what he is doing. Jos Gibbs need to let Saunders call all of the plays or just let him go and take over himself. I really believe Gibbs wants the same offense he saw in Kansas City and eventually will let Saunders bring in the personnel to do it.

Its always good for a running back to blame the ones who are opening up the holes for them. Betts didn't seem to have any problems. Are you sure he was not talking about last year because I thought Doc had lost weight and was moving with better balance this year.

EternalEnigma21 · 01-04-2007, 06:10 PM

I'm not a fan of dockery. the guy is strong, but he is not mobile at all. Hell I'd probably move him to DT if I were coaching the team.

He has alot of penalties, and it seems like everytime there's a trip up in the backfield its his feet colliding with someone else's. Pass protection is good for him and straight ahead running he does okay, but as strong as this guy is he's extremely inconsisntant.

Beemnseven · 01-04-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe1984

Dockery is a good player and I think we should keep him because, as stated before, we need to have some continuity and take care of our own. However, the one thing that drives me nuts about him is the amount of false start penalties that man gets, he really needs to cut back on those.

I don't have numbers available to back me up, but it seems that Casey Rabach is by far the most flagged member of the line. Dockery might well be #2, but he's got to be #2 by a mile because Rabach is the king of yellow.

skinsfan69 · 01-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Dock is just a road grader. If he asks for too much let him walk. I would prefer someone who is more nimble in the pulling game. You can't play smashmouth with everyone.

Longtimefan · 01-04-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

Get ready for a change on the offensive line. Something I thought about on Portis interview was he stated that the dockery can not be pulling out because he trips over is self and then when he stumbles I am left to dry. For some reason I don't think we will resign Dockery. I believe we will pursue the guard from Cincy or a more mobile o-lineman. I actually believe this is a go move if we want to adapt to Saunders offensive scheme. In KC that o-line was incredible and mobile when it came to pulling out on the tosses and sweeps run plays. Clinton Portis is one of my favorite players but he is complaining about the same running plays he was used to in Denver. Before he got here is was known as a cutback runner. If Portis becomes more patient and watch a lot more tape of faulk, holmes, and johnson he would become the best running back in the league hands down. I really believe Al Saunders knows what he is doing. Jos Gibbs need to let Saunders call all of the plays or just let him go and take over himself. I really believe Gibbs wants the same offense he saw in Kansas City and eventually will let Saunders bring in the personnel to do it.

If you recall in the interview with Portis he said he's going to let it known he wants to run (or have called for him ) the same type plays that were called for Betts during his streak. He prefers what's considered "downhill running" or between the tackles. Straight ahead blocking is Dockery's strength, they recognize the fact he's not a pulling guard, and I think they will get him resigned.

Riggo44 · 01-04-2007, 10:11 PM

I hope we keep Doc.The O-Line was not the problem. Our D-line was the maun thing wrong with our team this year.

Redskinhog1963 · 01-07-2007, 11:18 PM

portis is'nt the patient runner that betts is,and he never shall be!look at the way bettis waits for the blockers,and see how portis does'nt!

01-04-2007, 05:15 PM	#3
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 47 Posts: 1,851	Re: Get Ready For A Change! They will resign Dockery. Letting him slip away for an outsider will IMO, be the straw that will break the camels back. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

01-04-2007, 05:29 PM	#4
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: Get Ready For A Change! Dockery is a good player and I think we should keep him because, as stated before, we need to have some continuity and take care of our own. However, the one thing that drives me nuts about him is the amount of false start penalties that man gets, he really needs to cut back on those.

01-04-2007, 05:30 PM	#5
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Get Ready For A Change! If they don't resign Dockery, the entire team will revolt. The offensive line is one of the last units on the team that isn't backstabbing right now. That unit contains three of our best leaders: Samuels, Jansen, and Randy Thomas. They all want Dock back, and so does Bugel, and so does Gibbs. They're not going to let this one get away. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

01-04-2007, 05:38 PM	#6
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Get Ready For A Change! I think signing Dockery is the smartest thing. Our O-line proved that they could gel together and protect Campbell while allowing Betts to amass some pretty insane numbers. If it aint broke, don't fix it. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

01-04-2007, 05:40 PM	#7
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: Get Ready For A Change! They need to resign Dockery for all the reasons already given (continuity being #1). I think they need to add some quality depth in case of the worst-case scenario, but keeping our starting front 5 is a must. And besides, Betts certainly didn't seem to have any problem running behing these guys. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

01-04-2007, 04:49 PM	#1
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Queens Village, NY Age: 44 Posts: 349	Get Ready For A Change on the Offensive Line! Get ready for a change on the offensive line. Something I thought about on Portis interview was he stated that the dockery can not be pulling out because he trips over is self and then when he stumbles I am left to dry. For some reason I don't think we will resign Dockery. I believe we will pursue the guard from Cincy or a more mobile o-lineman. I actually believe this is a go move if we want to adapt to Saunders offensive scheme. In KC that o-line was incredible and mobile when it came to pulling out on the tosses and sweeps run plays. Clinton Portis is one of my favorite players but he is complaining about the same running plays he was used to in Denver. Before he got here is was known as a cutback runner. If Portis becomes more patient and watch a lot more tape of faulk, holmes, and johnson he would become the best running back in the league hands down. I really believe Al Saunders knows what he is doing. Jos Gibbs need to let Saunders call all of the plays or just let him go and take over himself. I really believe Gibbs wants the same offense he saw in Kansas City and eventually will let Saunders bring in the personnel to do it.

01-04-2007, 05:08 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Get Ready For A Change! Personally I don't think we'll let Dockery go for reasons I outlined in another thread. #1 being continuity. This line as a whole had a very, very good season. I think they were the only line to be in the top 7 in both sacks allowed and rushing yards. There's no reason to disrupt things up front unless Dockery asks for an insane deal. #2 the team needs to change course and start taking care of their own. Samuels has already stated he would restructure to help free up cash for Dock, and I think with the way this season went Gibbs and co. will push hard to keep Dockery. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-04-2007, 05:42 PM	#8
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Get Ready For A Change! Okay, it's a consensus thread closed.

01-04-2007, 06:10 PM	#10
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Get Ready For A Change! I'm not a fan of dockery. the guy is strong, but he is not mobile at all. Hell I'd probably move him to DT if I were coaching the team. He has alot of penalties, and it seems like everytime there's a trip up in the backfield its his feet colliding with someone else's. Pass protection is good for him and straight ahead running he does okay, but as strong as this guy is he's extremely inconsisntant. __________________ I am the brute squad.

01-04-2007, 07:27 PM	#12
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Get Ready For A Change! Dock is just a road grader. If he asks for too much let him walk. I would prefer someone who is more nimble in the pulling game. You can't play smashmouth with everyone.

01-04-2007, 10:11 PM	#14
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Get Ready For A Change! I hope we keep Doc.The O-Line was not the problem. Our D-line was the maun thing wrong with our team this year. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

01-07-2007, 11:18 PM	#15
Redskinhog1963 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: somewhere on this planet Age: 61 Posts: 178	Re: Get Ready For A Change! portis is'nt the patient runner that betts is,and he never shall be!look at the way bettis waits for the blockers,and see how portis does'nt! __________________ Parcells' legacy with the Cowboys can be framed this way: Instead of joining Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer as coaches who led them to championships, he leaves lumped with Chan Gailey and Dave Campo. (ESPN QUOTE)

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