Arizona Cards Fire Dennis Green

[12thMan]

ESPN.com - NFL - Red light for Green: Cardinals fire head coach

First casualty of the season.

[dall-assblows]

not suprising.

[MTK]

No big surprise, seems like every preseason they were the trendy pick and each year they tanked.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Wonder who they're gonna get to replace him

[wolfeskins]

i don't think they should have fired him this soon.

[dall-assblows]

why? he has had 3 years to put togeather a decent team and he was made a, what, 3-13 team. my guess is that he gets reunited with randy moss in oakland

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

why? he has had 3 years to put togeather a decent team and he was made a, what, 3-13 team. my guess is that he gets reunited with randy moss in oakland

i think he's a good coach. three years isn't that long, gibbs has been back three years , i'm not ready to get rid of him.

[12thMan]

Three years is starting to be the time clock in the NFL. Green had a plethora of talent to work with in Arizona and he couldn't get it done.

One of the most explosives offenses in the NFL, and that was before they got Edge and Leinert. Bert Berry is a top defensive lineman, and they have a hard hitting Pro-Bowl saftey in Adrian Wilson. Some really good young talent on this squad.

I think they go after Peter Carroll or Norm Chow, that's my guess.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Three years is starting to be the time clock in the NFL. Green had a plethora of talent to work with in Arizona and he couldn't get it done.

One of the most explosives offenses in the NFL, and that was before they got Edge and Leinert. Bert Berry is a top defensive lineman, and they have a hard hitting Pro-Bowl saftey in Adrian Wilson. Some really good young talent on this squad.

I think they go after Peter Carroll or Norm Chow, that's my guess.

the skins have a "plethora" of talent and it's been 3 years for gibbs. do you want to fire joe gibbs?

[Longtimefan]

He was thought to be one in the running to replace Spurrier here had Gibbs not decided to return. Had he come here, I guess we would be looking for a new coach again. The time to produce in the NFL is limited......

(NFL) "Not For Long" if you don't win.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the skins have a "plethora" of talent and it's been 3 years for gibbs. do you want to fire joe gibbs?

Wolf, Gibbs record speaks for itself. In fact, it's not too much better than Denny Green's. If Gibbs were someone else, he would most definitely be on the hot seat this year, no question about it. You can slice the old, I love Gibbs and his three rings, any way you like, but he's not getting it done.

If you like, you can go to my profile and read plenty comments and threads I've posted on the subject.

[Gmanc711]

Add Jim Mora to the list:

ESPN.com - NFL - Grounded: Falcons fire Mora after 7-9 season

[Schneed10]

While Gibbs and Green may have both ended up in similar places after three years, Gibbs did make the playoffs in his second year. Green didn't come close. So directly comparing them after three years isn't quite fair.

Green has made zero progress. Gibbs showed progress and then tanked it. Plus the fact that Gibbs has a hall of fame reputation kind of matters a little bit.

Green deserved it, Gibbs doesn't.

BUT... I don't think you fire a coach just because he deserves it. That's the wrong reason. You only fire them if you feel that bringing in a new coach will make your team better. If Green has lost the locker room, then making a change might make sense. But if he still had the locker room, it comes down to can you find a better coach? That's always the hard part.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

While Gibbs and Green may have both ended up in similar places after three years, Gibbs did make the playoffs in his second year. Green didn't come close. So directly comparing them after three years isn't quite fair.

Green has made zero progress. Gibbs showed progress and then tanked it. Plus the fact that Gibbs has a hall of fame reputation kind of matters a little bit.

Green deserved it, Gibbs doesn't.

BUT... I don't think you fire a coach just because he deserves it. That's the wrong reason. You only fire them if you feel that bringing in a new coach will make your team better. If Green has lost the locker room, then making a change might make sense. But if he still had the locker room, it comes down to can you find a better coach? That's always the hard part.

I can deal with that, but I never inserted Gibbs into the conversation. I simply responded and made a correlation of the records.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the skins have a "plethora" of talent and it's been 3 years for gibbs. do you want to fire joe gibbs?

The Skins made the playoffs, and there are a lot of other different circumstances in this. Like all the injuries the SKins had, and the fact that Gibbs is a proven commodity and a Washington hero.
Green was nothing to Arizona but someone that was supposed to bring glory to the team and that didn't happen.

ps- after this dismal performance, firing Gibbs has crossed my mind, but I want to give him 1 more year. His first year we expected a poor showing. Last year we overacheived, gotta give Gibbs credit. This year we underachieved, so he deserves 1 more year.