AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine

MTK · 12-29-2006, 08:21 PM

Interesting article on the current offseason approach, perhaps the year round approach is burning guys out?

Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

onlydarksets · 12-29-2006, 08:27 PM

I don't see how it couldn't. There has to be a happy medium between Gibbs approach and a free-for-all. It sounds odd that everyone is on the same workout regimen - that part just doesn't make sense at all.

#56fanatic · 12-29-2006, 08:28 PM

hey, its a different mind set now with these players. they have the money to spend on their own training needs and personal trainers. Not like in the 80's and early 90's. I dont generally have a problem with guys working out on their own, but when its time to come to the park and work during the offseason, they better be ready and be in tremendous shape. I kind of agree with the guys statements. the NFL is a year round thing now and guys do get burned out.

hooskins · 12-29-2006, 10:47 PM

I am not to sure about all this. Remember when Taylor skipped out of these practices and worked out in Miami. Everyone was making a huge deal about it and all that.

Well he didnt participate in the voluntary workouts and it seems he is still getting burned on a regular basis. It seems that missing out on the offseason workouts didnt really help him that much...

djnemo65 · 12-29-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooskins

I am not to sure about all this. Remember when Taylor skipped out of these practices and worked out in Miami. Everyone was making a huge deal about it and all that.

Well he didnt participate in the voluntary workouts and it seems he is still getting burned on a regular basis. It seems that missing out on the offseason workouts didnt really help him that much...

Come on, he's not getting burned because he's out of shape! Whatever you want to identify as the reason for Taylor's regression (personally, I tend to buy the coaching argument promulgated in that ESPN piece) Taylor remains one of the true physical specimens in this league.

What I love about Gibbs though is the humility with which he approaches his job. No ego, no I'm in the HOF and you aren't, just a genuine willingness to do whatever it takes to win.

ncskinsfanec · 12-29-2006, 11:08 PM

Whatever it takes to get this team on the right track, I'm all for it. We've got too many good players and coaches to be 6-10 (yes we'll beat the Giants tomorrow)!

hurrykaine · 12-29-2006, 11:55 PM

Phillip Daniels should just stfu. What the hell has he done since he's been here other than wimp out, sit out injured, or get out of breath? Save one game against Dallas, he's been as useless as an a$$hole on the elbow.

Daniels and Wynn are the most annoying team spokespersons. They don't do anything on the field and then sound all righteous and leader-like when they address the media.

It should be mandatory for Daniels and Wynn to stay at Redskins park and follow the recommended offseason regimen. The rest of the players can workout wherever they want.

dall-assblows · 12-30-2006, 12:04 AM

i used to play lacrosse year round and i told my coach that i was being burnt out and he said take a winter indoor season off. we played summer, fall, winter, and regular season in the spring. state champons i might add....

Schneed10 · 12-30-2006, 12:10 AM

If you've got "real Redskins", they'll do what they need to do on their own. They'll work real hard on their own, and they'll report to camp in great shape. The QB and the WRs will get together to develop chemistry on their own.

So many players are voicing their opinions on this subject. So many, that if Gibbs were to continue his year-round offseason program, it might send the signal that he doesn't trust them to do it on their own.

If Gibbs believes in his guys, if he really is "as proud of this group as I have been of any team", if he thinks these guys "fight their guts out", and if he really feels like "there's no group of guys I'd rather go through this with", then he needs to trust them to do what's best for the team.

A show of faith to the players may go a ways in the art of motivation. We'll find out real soon how much faith and trust he has in them.

The Huddle · 12-30-2006, 12:24 AM

Considering the talent on hand and the 10 notches in the loss column, I'd say everything is fair game for questioning right now. Glad to see Gibbs is open to taking another look.

FRPLG · 12-30-2006, 12:36 AM

every team has ota's and every coach expects players there. we are not any different than those teams.

dmek25 · 12-30-2006, 12:37 AM

whatever it takes to win, and the players should feel the same way

Bill B · 12-30-2006, 12:43 AM

I would want two things if OTA's are not mandatory - that all the recievers and Campbell get together as much as possible so they can get their timing down. Whether they do this in Ashburn, Miami or at Donovan's QB camp doesn't matter to me.
The second is as the article points out - start training camp earlier. As long as players stay in shape they can do it their way in my opinion. I think as long as you don't blow up the team completely continuity will eventually come and if you keep the schemes intact things can only get better.

#56fanatic · 12-30-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hooskins

I am not to sure about all this. Remember when Taylor skipped out of these practices and worked out in Miami. Everyone was making a huge deal about it and all that.

Well he didnt participate in the voluntary workouts and it seems he is still getting burned on a regular basis. It seems that missing out on the offseason workouts didnt really help him that much...

I believe Taylor was here for all most all of the offseason stuff this past season.

GoSkins! · 12-30-2006, 10:07 AM

It seems like the team should be able to establish a target weight for each player to retain and a physical standards list for them to maintain during the offseason. Ask each to either come to OTA's or show up for a one day test at some preset date before camp to prove they are on target. If they fail at that time, then I can see putting the pressure on the player to stay for the remainder of the "in house" OTA program.

There has to be a middle ground between respecting the professional players and protecting the teams investment.

12-29-2006, 08:21 PM	#1
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12-29-2006, 08:27 PM	#2
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine I don't see how it couldn't. There has to be a happy medium between Gibbs approach and a free-for-all. It sounds odd that everyone is on the same workout regimen - that part just doesn't make sense at all. __________________ Stop reading my signature.

12-29-2006, 08:28 PM	#3
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine hey, its a different mind set now with these players. they have the money to spend on their own training needs and personal trainers. Not like in the 80's and early 90's. I dont generally have a problem with guys working out on their own, but when its time to come to the park and work during the offseason, they better be ready and be in tremendous shape. I kind of agree with the guys statements. the NFL is a year round thing now and guys do get burned out.

12-29-2006, 10:47 PM	#4
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine I am not to sure about all this. Remember when Taylor skipped out of these practices and worked out in Miami. Everyone was making a huge deal about it and all that. Well he didnt participate in the voluntary workouts and it seems he is still getting burned on a regular basis. It seems that missing out on the offseason workouts didnt really help him that much... __________________ Vacancy

12-29-2006, 11:08 PM	#6
ncskinsfanec Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 432	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine Whatever it takes to get this team on the right track, I'm all for it. We've got too many good players and coaches to be 6-10 (yes we'll beat the Giants tomorrow)!

12-29-2006, 11:55 PM	#7
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine Phillip Daniels should just stfu. What the hell has he done since he's been here other than wimp out, sit out injured, or get out of breath? Save one game against Dallas, he's been as useless as an a$$hole on the elbow. Daniels and Wynn are the most annoying team spokespersons. They don't do anything on the field and then sound all righteous and leader-like when they address the media. It should be mandatory for Daniels and Wynn to stay at Redskins park and follow the recommended offseason regimen. The rest of the players can workout wherever they want.

12-30-2006, 12:04 AM	#8
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine i used to play lacrosse year round and i told my coach that i was being burnt out and he said take a winter indoor season off. we played summer, fall, winter, and regular season in the spring. state champons i might add.... __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

12-30-2006, 12:10 AM	#9
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine If you've got "real Redskins", they'll do what they need to do on their own. They'll work real hard on their own, and they'll report to camp in great shape. The QB and the WRs will get together to develop chemistry on their own. So many players are voicing their opinions on this subject. So many, that if Gibbs were to continue his year-round offseason program, it might send the signal that he doesn't trust them to do it on their own. If Gibbs believes in his guys, if he really is "as proud of this group as I have been of any team", if he thinks these guys "fight their guts out", and if he really feels like "there's no group of guys I'd rather go through this with", then he needs to trust them to do what's best for the team. A show of faith to the players may go a ways in the art of motivation. We'll find out real soon how much faith and trust he has in them. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

12-30-2006, 12:24 AM	#10
The Huddle Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arrington, Va. Posts: 99	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine Considering the talent on hand and the 10 notches in the loss column, I'd say everything is fair game for questioning right now. Glad to see Gibbs is open to taking another look.

12-30-2006, 12:36 AM	#11
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine every team has ota's and every coach expects players there. we are not any different than those teams.

12-30-2006, 12:37 AM	#12
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine whatever it takes to win, and the players should feel the same way __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-30-2006, 12:43 AM	#13
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine I would want two things if OTA's are not mandatory - that all the recievers and Campbell get together as much as possible so they can get their timing down. Whether they do this in Ashburn, Miami or at Donovan's QB camp doesn't matter to me. The second is as the article points out - start training camp earlier. As long as players stay in shape they can do it their way in my opinion. I think as long as you don't blow up the team completely continuity will eventually come and if you keep the schemes intact things can only get better.

12-30-2006, 10:07 AM	#15
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: AP: Redskins growing weary of Gibbs' year-round routine It seems like the team should be able to establish a target weight for each player to retain and a physical standards list for them to maintain during the offseason. Ask each to either come to OTA's or show up for a one day test at some preset date before camp to prove they are on target. If they fail at that time, then I can see putting the pressure on the player to stay for the remainder of the "in house" OTA program. There has to be a middle ground between respecting the professional players and protecting the teams investment. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

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