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ridexile · 11-20-2006, 07:13 PM

I dont know if any of these ideas have been mentioned before...I'm new. Sorry if they have been.

Adam Archuletta should be moved to LB next year if he doesnt learn how to cover (which is doubtful) The guy was leading the league in tackles before he got benched (or somewhere in the top 5, but he was leading all DB's), and he was decent at blitzing. All he has to do is put on a few pounds and he might do decent at LB.

Lemar Marshall should be moved to safety. I know this sounds crazy, and that is because it is, but I'm just throwing it out there as a remote possibility. Marshall was drafted as a safety, and does not have the physical presence needed of a MLB. I dont know how good he is at covering, how fast he is, or if he can fit the role of the safety. But I do know that he's not powerful enough to be a MLB, and he is ok at tackling.

Shawn Springs should not be moved to safety like everyone says he should, I dont know what happened in the 2nd half to make him have so many tackles this week, but before I fell asleep at halftime I saw him have at least 4 missed tackles.

Andre Carter should never become a linebacker again. He is way too slow and not powerful enough.

SmootSmack · 11-20-2006, 07:16 PM

Well they've all been sporadically mentioned throughout the board, except the Marshal Plan.

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Bill B · 11-20-2006, 07:30 PM

I think getting a middle LB and moving Marshall back to the outside makes the most sense - Marshall did well when he was on the outside.

Andre Carter is too small for DE and too slow for LB - he reminds me of the players the bullets used to have - a bunch a 6'5" swingman.

Archuletta is way too small for LB. I thought about that one too, but he would get blown off the ball by most Offensive Lineman in the NFL - can we say "pancake block". Unfortunately with Archuletta we have to wait a couple of years because cutting him after this season will kill our cap- same with Andre Carter.

This is why I am depressed about the Redskins - they are stuck with the free agent bust players they acquired due to salary cap ramifications/releasing fees and have no draft picks to replace them with.

I say trade down and acquire as many picks as you can get and hopefully 1 or 2 will pan out - but the front office like to trade draft picks like they are going out of style.

70Chip · 11-20-2006, 07:36 PM

Bill B gets it right. LBers have to take on TEs and pulling guards. Arch would be flattened like Wiley Coyote. He didn't have to fight through blocks to make tackles from the safety position.

GTripp0012 · 11-20-2006, 07:58 PM

On review, it's not a good idea to have Sean Taylor and Adam Archuleta on the same team. They both have the exactly same flaws (liability in coverage, inconsistent tackler, etc). Taylor has more atleticism, giving him the slight edge over Arch as a player, but right now they are both hurting this team.

ridexile · 11-20-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Bill B gets it right. LBers have to take on TEs and pulling guards. Arch would be flattened like Wiley Coyote. He didn't have to fight through blocks to make tackles from the safety position.

The few time that I've seen Archuletta blitz and have to fight through the blocks, he's done a pretty good job, and the thing about him is he can tackle people from behind unlike most people...if he gets his hands on you, your not going to get away. And I know he's undersized for a LB, but think about this...

List of People that Archuletta is taller than- Zach Thomas, Al Wilson, Ian Gold, Earnie Simms, and Cato June. All he has to do is bulk up a little and I'm sure he'll be fine (well, at least better than Holdman).

Marshall obviously has to go, and assuming we dont get anymore LB's in the next offseason, Washington can move to MLB (a good physical presance) Archuletta can go to WLB, and McIntosh can move to SLB (assuming he's actually any good). I know this is all very unlikely, but nonetheless it's still a possibility.

GTripp0012 · 11-20-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ridexile

The few time that I've seen Archuletta blitz and have to fight through the blocks, he's done a pretty good job, and the thing about him is he can tackle people from behind unlike most people...if he gets his hands on you, your not going to get away. And I know he's undersized for a LB, but think about this...

List of People that Archuletta is taller than- Zach Thomas, Al Wilson, Ian Gold, Earnie Simms, and Cato June. All he has to do is bulk up a little and I'm sure he'll be fine (well, at least better than Holdman).

Marshall obviously has to go, and assuming we dont get anymore LB's in the next offseason, Washington can move to MLB (a good physical presance) Archuletta can go to WLB, and McIntosh can move to SLB (assuming he's actually any good). I know this is all very unlikely, but nonetheless it's still a possibility.

I think our next MLB is going to come from the outside.

Lemar has to be moved back outside next season because we have to know what we have in him going into a contract year. If he moves back outside and still doesn't get it done, you simply don't resign him.

ridexile · 11-20-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think our next MLB is going to come from the outside.

Lemar has to be moved back outside next season because we have to know what we have in him going into a contract year. If he moves back outside and still doesn't get it done, you simply don't resign him.

Lemar is getting old and is obviously worse than Washington, and we pretty much put all our eggs in McIntosh's baskett when we traded two 2nd round picks and a 6th rounder for him. So both OLB's are taken up, so Lemar has to go, and we don't want to hold on to him for him to be a shitty MLB next year or a backup OLB when we can trade him for at least a 5th round pick, maybe higher, I mean he's not a bad player, he's just not a good MLB, so he has to fit into someone's defensive scheme.

#56fanatic · 11-21-2006, 02:15 PM

Arch would not be a good option at LB. he is too small to fight off the blocks of 300 lb guards and tackles. we need him to study, learn the D and just play ball. The guy has all the tools to be very good in this D. He and Taylor could form a very good tandem. Marshall and holdman need to go. Holdman definately, Marshall may just be having a down year. the philly game, the NFL stats had him at zero tackles. (that may have changed) but for a MLB to have zero tackles in a game where they ran for all most 200 yards, that speaks volumes. And I dont want to hear about the D line being crappy. We all know that, but good MLB find ways to make plays. Urlacher, Lewis, Pierce, trotter all seem to make plays. I know they have decent d lines, but seriously, marshall is just not making the plays.

724Skinsfan · 11-21-2006, 02:34 PM

If Holdman sucks at OLB and MLB, and Marshall sucks at MLB but is decent/good at OLB. Why not improve at least improve one of those positions by moving Marshall to the outside. Surely there is one linebacker on the team that can play a serviceable MLB if Marshall gets moved.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-21-2006, 02:44 PM

I'm not so sure that Marshall is such a bad MLB. In fact, I think he's quite good. He's had a bum ankle and is having a down year, but who isn't?

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think our next MLB is going to come from the outside.

Lemar has to be moved back outside next season because we have to know what we have in him going into a contract year. If he moves back outside and still doesn't get it done, you simply don't resign him.

We need a playmaker on the weakside. Someone to cause some havoc and that's not Marshall. He needs to be a nickel LB/ teams player and that's it. We are trying to get too much out of someone who is already playing out of position.

cpayne5 · 11-21-2006, 02:51 PM

Everyone keeps saying "Archuleta is too small." Here are some facts...

Archuleta would be the smallest LB on the team if moved there, BUT the weight difference isn't nearly as great as you people want to believe. He would be 4 pounds lighter than 98 and only 13 lighter than 57.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-21-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We need a playmaker on the weakside. Someone to cause some havoc and that's not Marshall. He needs to be a nickel LB/ teams player and that's it. We are trying to get too much out of someone who is already playing out of position.

Marshall's made some damn nice plays for us over the past two seasons. I'd say he was one of our biggest playmakers on defense last season.
-4 INTs (1 for TD against OAK)
-2 sacks
-2 FF
-1 PD leading to Marcus Washington INT against Dallas

MTK · 11-21-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Marshall's made some damn nice plays for us over the past two seasons. I'd say he was one of our biggest playmakers on defense last season.
-4 INTs (1 for TD against OAK)
-2 sacks
-2 FF
-1 PD leading to Marcus Washington INT against Dallas

Exactly, he's proven he can ball.

Right now we could look at everyone on this D as expendable, but we really can't blow it all up and start over. We just need some serious fine tuning and guys like Marshall will get back on track.

11-20-2006, 07:13 PM	#1
ridexile Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 29	Positions I dont know if any of these ideas have been mentioned before...I'm new. Sorry if they have been. Adam Archuletta should be moved to LB next year if he doesnt learn how to cover (which is doubtful) The guy was leading the league in tackles before he got benched (or somewhere in the top 5, but he was leading all DB's), and he was decent at blitzing. All he has to do is put on a few pounds and he might do decent at LB. Lemar Marshall should be moved to safety. I know this sounds crazy, and that is because it is, but I'm just throwing it out there as a remote possibility. Marshall was drafted as a safety, and does not have the physical presence needed of a MLB. I dont know how good he is at covering, how fast he is, or if he can fit the role of the safety. But I do know that he's not powerful enough to be a MLB, and he is ok at tackling. Shawn Springs should not be moved to safety like everyone says he should, I dont know what happened in the 2nd half to make him have so many tackles this week, but before I fell asleep at halftime I saw him have at least 4 missed tackles. Andre Carter should never become a linebacker again. He is way too slow and not powerful enough.

11-20-2006, 07:16 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Positions Well they've all been sporadically mentioned throughout the board, except the Marshal Plan. Welcome to the board! __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-20-2006, 07:30 PM	#3
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Positions I think getting a middle LB and moving Marshall back to the outside makes the most sense - Marshall did well when he was on the outside. Andre Carter is too small for DE and too slow for LB - he reminds me of the players the bullets used to have - a bunch a 6'5" swingman. Archuletta is way too small for LB. I thought about that one too, but he would get blown off the ball by most Offensive Lineman in the NFL - can we say "pancake block". Unfortunately with Archuletta we have to wait a couple of years because cutting him after this season will kill our cap- same with Andre Carter. This is why I am depressed about the Redskins - they are stuck with the free agent bust players they acquired due to salary cap ramifications/releasing fees and have no draft picks to replace them with. I say trade down and acquire as many picks as you can get and hopefully 1 or 2 will pan out - but the front office like to trade draft picks like they are going out of style.

11-20-2006, 07:36 PM	#4
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Positions Bill B gets it right. LBers have to take on TEs and pulling guards. Arch would be flattened like Wiley Coyote. He didn't have to fight through blocks to make tackles from the safety position. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-21-2006, 02:15 PM	#9
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Positions Arch would not be a good option at LB. he is too small to fight off the blocks of 300 lb guards and tackles. we need him to study, learn the D and just play ball. The guy has all the tools to be very good in this D. He and Taylor could form a very good tandem. Marshall and holdman need to go. Holdman definately, Marshall may just be having a down year. the philly game, the NFL stats had him at zero tackles. (that may have changed) but for a MLB to have zero tackles in a game where they ran for all most 200 yards, that speaks volumes. And I dont want to hear about the D line being crappy. We all know that, but good MLB find ways to make plays. Urlacher, Lewis, Pierce, trotter all seem to make plays. I know they have decent d lines, but seriously, marshall is just not making the plays.

11-20-2006, 07:58 PM	#5
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Positions On review, it's not a good idea to have Sean Taylor and Adam Archuleta on the same team. They both have the exactly same flaws (liability in coverage, inconsistent tackler, etc). Taylor has more atleticism, giving him the slight edge over Arch as a player, but right now they are both hurting this team. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

11-21-2006, 02:34 PM	#10
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Positions If Holdman sucks at OLB and MLB, and Marshall sucks at MLB but is decent/good at OLB. Why not improve at least improve one of those positions by moving Marshall to the outside. Surely there is one linebacker on the team that can play a serviceable MLB if Marshall gets moved. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

11-21-2006, 02:44 PM	#11
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Positions I'm not so sure that Marshall is such a bad MLB. In fact, I think he's quite good. He's had a bum ankle and is having a down year, but who isn't?

11-21-2006, 02:51 PM	#13
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: Positions Everyone keeps saying "Archuleta is too small." Here are some facts... Archuleta would be the smallest LB on the team if moved there, BUT the weight difference isn't nearly as great as you people want to believe. He would be 4 pounds lighter than 98 and only 13 lighter than 57.

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