Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations?

Bill B · 11-09-2006, 07:36 AM

Last week we had 7 plays inside the 4 yard line against Dallas and got no points from it. My question is why not use Mike Sellers and TJ Duckett at the same time? I would think with each being 270 pounds+ the Skins would have been able to punch it in on the goal line. I love Clinton, but using these 2 guys at the same time in a heavy-jumbo package near the goal line seems like a solution. Thoughts?

dmek25 · 11-09-2006, 07:39 AM

whatever it takes. obviously, whatever the skins were doing doesn't work

vaoutlaws2006 · 11-09-2006, 07:41 AM

I still cant believe we didnt see duckett when were on the goalline and didnt get it. Why arent we using a player we traded for? The better question is what team were the skins trying to keep him from playing for?

NY_Skinsfan · 11-09-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

I still cant believe we didnt see duckett when were on the goalline and didnt get it. Why arent we using a player we traded for? The better question is what team were the skins trying to keep him from playing for?

I thought it was said that we were keeping him from going to Philly.

Paintrain · 11-09-2006, 08:50 AM

That's on page 701 of Saunders' playbook.. We're still in the 200's chapter.

Jason72 · 11-09-2006, 10:20 AM

I say go with whatever works. IF Duckett could do a better job at the goaline (the lines blocking could be an issue too) then put him in. I don't care who's feelings are hurt.
If players are really about the team like they all claim, then they should understand when the team needs them to step aside and let another person do a particular task.

61cad · 11-09-2006, 10:25 AM

Welcome to Joe Gibbs football!

Gibbs admitted this week that he wanted to give Portis the chance to score.

How about giving the team a chance to WIN?

GoSkins! · 11-09-2006, 10:39 AM

It seems like it would make Portis' job easier around the goal line if other teams thought that Duckett was the pound it up the middle guy. They may be more inclined to watch the perimeter when Portis was in and therefore open up everything a little more.

I expect to see Duckett in a least once the next time.

MTK · 11-09-2006, 10:46 AM

Time to face reality guys, if we haven't seen much of Duckett to this point chances are we're just not going to. Gibbs is comfortable with Portis and Betts and on occasion, Sellers.

See ya next week for the next installment of "Where's Duckett?"

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 11-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Let's not over-react - Portis is a damn-fine goal line back.

It was just one bad series - where most of the blame should be on the o-line. Sellers and/or Duckett wouldn't have had much more luck in those scenarios.

I will pose the question, though - why don't we ever have Portis jump to the outside in goal line situations? Priest Holmes made a career of this - and if they're stacked up in the middle - Portis definitely has the speed to beat them to the outside...

As far as Duckett, I'm with Matty - it's not going to happen this year - if we stop talking about it maybe, just maybe we can forget about what we gave up for nothing...

724Skinsfan · 11-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Here's my thought on Duckett's absence, thus far:

As the season progresses running backs take a pounding, their bodies wear down. So too, do the defensive players trying to stuff the run. TJ Duckett is a very big body that runs extremely well and guess what? He's fresh. I seriously doubt this was/is the plan but it works extremely well to our advantage now.

61cad · 11-09-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Time to face reality guys, if we haven't seen much of Duckett to this point chances are we're just not going to. Gibbs is comfortable with Portis and Betts and on occasion, Sellers.

See ya next week for the next installment of "Where's Duckett?"

During short yardage how could Gibbs be comfortable with sending Portis up the middle of line over Betts or Duckett?

Betts at 260 lbs, Duckett at 254 lbs and Portis at 205 lbs, Hell my 13 year old daughter could tell which two out of the three is going to have a bigger impact between the tackles.

Now, getting to the outside I would give it to Portis all day long, but up the middle, you have to go with a big load.

Didn't Gibbs coach when Riggins was playing?

Maybe he just didn't watch all those short yardage plays back in the day.

Just like him not watching Novak kicked on Sunday.

EternalEnigma21 · 11-09-2006, 11:07 AM

well at least Ive really enjoyed having him on madden. i break huge runs with this cat getting him 1-1 with a db & plowing them over to race toward the endzone...

I do think its kinda shitty of us if we picked him up only because we didn't want to have him play against us in philly and keep them one dimensional.

I understand why, though...Can you imagine if philly had a bruiser back and westbrook line up in a split back set with mcnabb back there too? You wouldn't know what the hell to do. Right now, at least you know they ain't pounding it up the middle...

but still its a shitty thing to do to a player...

MTK · 11-09-2006, 11:07 AM

It doesn't matter how much a RB weighs if the offensive line gets blown off the ball, which is what happened against Dallas.

And Betts did have a shot down there too and was stuffed.

Jason72 · 11-09-2006, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Let's not over-react - Portis is a damn-fine goal line back.

It was just one bad series - where most of the blame should be on the o-line. Sellers and/or Duckett wouldn't have had much more luck in those scenarios.

I will pose the question, though - why don't we ever have Portis jump to the outside in goal line situations? Priest Holmes made a career of this - and if they're stacked up in the middle - Portis definitely has the speed to beat them to the outside...

As far as Duckett, I'm with Matty - it's not going to happen this year - if we stop talking about it maybe, just maybe we can forget about what we gave up for nothing...

I agree with you that Portis should go outside way more at the goaline. Why not, he has the speed and the middle is clogged with bodies. If he gets outside he might just have to avoid one person.

I will disagree on your assessment that Portis is being a great goaline back. I think he is an average goaline back. The rest of his skills are excellent, but i have thought since he got here that he was average at the goaline, even last year.

11-09-2006, 07:36 AM	#1
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? Last week we had 7 plays inside the 4 yard line against Dallas and got no points from it. My question is why not use Mike Sellers and TJ Duckett at the same time? I would think with each being 270 pounds+ the Skins would have been able to punch it in on the goal line. I love Clinton, but using these 2 guys at the same time in a heavy-jumbo package near the goal line seems like a solution. Thoughts?

11-09-2006, 07:39 AM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? whatever it takes. obviously, whatever the skins were doing doesn't work __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-09-2006, 07:41 AM	#3
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 52 Posts: 806	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? I still cant believe we didnt see duckett when were on the goalline and didnt get it. Why arent we using a player we traded for? The better question is what team were the skins trying to keep him from playing for? __________________ The future is obviously right now!

11-09-2006, 08:50 AM	#5
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? That's on page 701 of Saunders' playbook.. We're still in the 200's chapter. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

11-09-2006, 10:20 AM	#6
Jason72 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 52 Posts: 114	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? I say go with whatever works. IF Duckett could do a better job at the goaline (the lines blocking could be an issue too) then put him in. I don't care who's feelings are hurt. If players are really about the team like they all claim, then they should understand when the team needs them to step aside and let another person do a particular task. __________________ A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.

11-09-2006, 10:25 AM	#7
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? Welcome to Joe Gibbs football! Gibbs admitted this week that he wanted to give Portis the chance to score. How about giving the team a chance to WIN? __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

11-09-2006, 10:39 AM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? It seems like it would make Portis' job easier around the goal line if other teams thought that Duckett was the pound it up the middle guy. They may be more inclined to watch the perimeter when Portis was in and therefore open up everything a little more. I expect to see Duckett in a least once the next time. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

11-09-2006, 10:46 AM	#9
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,686	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? Time to face reality guys, if we haven't seen much of Duckett to this point chances are we're just not going to. Gibbs is comfortable with Portis and Betts and on occasion, Sellers. See ya next week for the next installment of "Where's Duckett?" __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-09-2006, 10:53 AM	#10
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? Let's not over-react - Portis is a damn-fine goal line back. It was just one bad series - where most of the blame should be on the o-line. Sellers and/or Duckett wouldn't have had much more luck in those scenarios. I will pose the question, though - why don't we ever have Portis jump to the outside in goal line situations? Priest Holmes made a career of this - and if they're stacked up in the middle - Portis definitely has the speed to beat them to the outside... As far as Duckett, I'm with Matty - it's not going to happen this year - if we stop talking about it maybe, just maybe we can forget about what we gave up for nothing...

11-09-2006, 10:53 AM	#11
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? Here's my thought on Duckett's absence, thus far: As the season progresses running backs take a pounding, their bodies wear down. So too, do the defensive players trying to stuff the run. TJ Duckett is a very big body that runs extremely well and guess what? He's fresh. I seriously doubt this was/is the plan but it works extremely well to our advantage now. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

11-09-2006, 11:07 AM	#13
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Why not use both Sellers & Duckett in goal line situations? well at least Ive really enjoyed having him on madden. i break huge runs with this cat getting him 1-1 with a db & plowing them over to race toward the endzone... I do think its kinda shitty of us if we picked him up only because we didn't want to have him play against us in philly and keep them one dimensional. I understand why, though...Can you imagine if philly had a bruiser back and westbrook line up in a split back set with mcnabb back there too? You wouldn't know what the hell to do. Right now, at least you know they ain't pounding it up the middle... but still its a shitty thing to do to a player... __________________ I am the brute squad.

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