Brian Mitchell Show

RedskinRat · 11-02-2006, 12:18 PM

Regarding the 12th man as an component on Sunday.

"Don't expect the fans to come out of their cars cheering. You have to give them something to cheer about"

Wise words. I wish he still played for the Skins.

BrunellMVP? · 11-02-2006, 12:46 PM

i agree...we've been cheering for the last decade with nothing to cheer about (save last years great run). That said, i do wish we'd arrive a bit earlier to the games...we are def. a late arriving crowd, which makes the team's dramatic entrance somewhat weaker, as the stadium is still 30% empty 15 mins before game time. but can't fault people for wanting to booze...

Warpath · 11-02-2006, 12:56 PM

I think this is mostly because of 495. Getting all 96,000+ into the stadium is near impossible. Fans need to leave earlier to arrive earlier. Theres nothing worse than paying all the money to go to a game and missing kickoff. I leave early enough to be in my seats with at least 10 minutes to go and Im always ready to cheer. If the Defense takes the field first I continually cheer them on no matter how many third and longs they give up. I'll cheer no matter how bad it is.

I also think that given the choice the other team has the advantage at the beginning of either half. As stated, fans aren't in their seats in the first quarter and aren't loud, and at the beginning of the second half many fans are in lines for the bathroom, for food, or buying stuff. Thats just the way it goes. Those of us that are ready need to cheer louder to make up for the difference.

BrunellMVP? · 11-02-2006, 01:02 PM

fair enough...still wish people would arrive earlier, but what can you do? How are the fans in your section? Last game I went to, people were SCREAMING at a guy for standing up and cheering on our D...so much so that there was almost redskin or redskin violence. Do you find that fans in your section (the majority) are less animated as well? I mean from my standpoint, you are at a game...its your job to cheer, and if you feel moved to do it standing, so be it...i for one, never sit down (but that is because i am right infront of the luxury boxes (so there is nobody behind me), but still, its a GAME!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-02-2006, 01:14 PM

Fans have a duty to support their team by making noise when the opponent's offense is on the field and staying quiet (i.e. not booing) when our offense is on the field. Fans DO affect the game and if they do not do their part to create a home-field advantage, they shouldn't complain about players not doing their part.

I've never understood the point of booing your team. What does it accomplish? If your team sucks, do you think the players need the fans to inform them of such? When a team is playing poorly they know it and don't need fans to pile on and hit them when they are down.

In anticipation of how people might respond to this post: (1) football is not politics, so please do not cite your 1st Amendment rights to boo; and (2) just because you paid for a ticket and have the right to boo doesn't mean that you should boo.

BrunellMVP? · 11-02-2006, 01:25 PM

when you overpay for so much talent (and ticket prices are raised accordingly) you have a right to expect your team not to suck. I can understand the desire to boo, as fan are simply soooo frustrated that they have no other outlet (ie- 4 3 and outs in a row, and brunell completes a 5 yard pass when we needed 8)...just as the natural reaction to a good play is to cheer. You want a release. Moreover, these guys are not kids, they are professionals. It is reasonable for people to expect them to play and behave accordingly. That said, I agree with you, it is destructive, demeaning and unnecessary. Moreover, i don't buy the booing as a motivational tool, but i can see some benefit in trying to illicit change- ie get brunell out.

Warpath · 11-02-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

fair enough...still wish people would arrive earlier, but what can you do? How are the fans in your section? Last game I went to, people were SCREAMING at a guy for standing up and cheering on our D...so much so that there was almost redskin or redskin violence. Do you find that fans in your section (the majority) are less animated as well? I mean from my standpoint, you are at a game...its your job to cheer, and if you feel moved to do it standing, so be it...i for one, never sit down (but that is because i am right infront of the luxury boxes (so there is nobody behind me), but still, its a GAME!

Fans in my section (129) seem to be more sitting than cheering. It drives me nuts but what can i do. Also in this section are many fans of the opposition. The wife and I are on the aisle, so every week I have to sit next to the opposition. This week won't be any different. Expect the stadium to be at least 40% cowboy fans if not more. I've definitely heard stories of people being told to sit down and think its ridiculous.

Warpath · 11-02-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Fans have a duty to support their team by making noise when the opponent's offense is on the field and staying quiet (i.e. not booing) when our offense is on the field. Fans DO affect the game and if they do not do their part to create a home-field advantage, they shouldn't complain about players not doing their part.

I've never understood the point of booing your team. What does it accomplish? If your team sucks, do you think the players need the fans to inform them of such? When a team is playing poorly they know it and don't need fans to pile on and hit them when they are down.

In anticipation of how people might respond to this post: (1) football is not politics, so please do not cite your 1st Amendment rights to boo; and (2) just because you paid for a ticket and have the right to boo doesn't mean that you should boo.

Yea the booing drives me nuts. Its not all Brunells fault. He just takes the blame all the time because hes the easiest one to point at. Boo the D when they keep giving up 3rd and longs.

BrunellMVP? · 11-02-2006, 01:33 PM

That is another huge beef- the redskins fans seem to sell their tickets to opponents ALL the time! Are they corp seats? i am constantly sickened by the volume of opposing jerseys in the stadium, week in, week out.

hesscl34 · 11-02-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Regarding the 12th man as an component on Sunday.

"Don't expect the fans to come out of their cars cheering. You have to give them something to cheer about"

Wise words. I wish he still played for the Skins.

I cannot STAND how negative he is. Drives me crazy. He's bitter.

dmek25 · 11-02-2006, 01:39 PM

maybe if Snyder wouldn't constantly raise the ticket prices you would see more ordinary Joe's at the games. i live about an hour and a half away, and go to one game a year. because thats all i can afford. i would love top see 4-5 games a year but i got mouths to feed

Warpath · 11-02-2006, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

maybe if Snyder wouldn't constantly raise the ticket prices you would see more ordinary Joe's at the games. i live about an hour and a half away, and go to one game a year. because thats all i can afford. i would love top see 4-5 games a year but i got mouths to feed

I live 2hours away and have season tickets. Im by no means rich. We have a kid and my wife is currently looking for a job. Average joes CAN get to all the games if they try hard enough.

The Zimmermans · 11-02-2006, 02:05 PM

all of those issues are snyder's fault. Tickets are too expensive, the stadium is too big, and the location sucks. All of these factors bring up those issues. Too many seats to fill so many tickets get sold to cowgirls fans, bad location so 495 gets backed up....late arrival. Too expensive so it's all corporate people who don't cheer as hard. oh yeah......and the team isnt good haha

MTK · 11-02-2006, 02:07 PM

Snyder didn't build the stadium, so we can't blame him for all the problems.

The Zimmermans · 11-02-2006, 02:11 PM

He has added like 10,000 seats and charged a rediculous amount for them

11-02-2006, 12:18 PM	#1
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Brian Mitchell Show Regarding the 12th man as an component on Sunday. "Don't expect the fans to come out of their cars cheering. You have to give them something to cheer about" Wise words. I wish he still played for the Skins.

11-02-2006, 12:46 PM	#2
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Brian Mitchell Show i agree...we've been cheering for the last decade with nothing to cheer about (save last years great run). That said, i do wish we'd arrive a bit earlier to the games...we are def. a late arriving crowd, which makes the team's dramatic entrance somewhat weaker, as the stadium is still 30% empty 15 mins before game time. but can't fault people for wanting to booze... __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-02-2006, 12:56 PM	#3
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	Re: Brian Mitchell Show I think this is mostly because of 495. Getting all 96,000+ into the stadium is near impossible. Fans need to leave earlier to arrive earlier. Theres nothing worse than paying all the money to go to a game and missing kickoff. I leave early enough to be in my seats with at least 10 minutes to go and Im always ready to cheer. If the Defense takes the field first I continually cheer them on no matter how many third and longs they give up. I'll cheer no matter how bad it is. I also think that given the choice the other team has the advantage at the beginning of either half. As stated, fans aren't in their seats in the first quarter and aren't loud, and at the beginning of the second half many fans are in lines for the bathroom, for food, or buying stuff. Thats just the way it goes. Those of us that are ready need to cheer louder to make up for the difference.

11-02-2006, 01:02 PM	#4
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Brian Mitchell Show fair enough...still wish people would arrive earlier, but what can you do? How are the fans in your section? Last game I went to, people were SCREAMING at a guy for standing up and cheering on our D...so much so that there was almost redskin or redskin violence. Do you find that fans in your section (the majority) are less animated as well? I mean from my standpoint, you are at a game...its your job to cheer, and if you feel moved to do it standing, so be it...i for one, never sit down (but that is because i am right infront of the luxury boxes (so there is nobody behind me), but still, its a GAME! __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#5
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Brian Mitchell Show Fans have a duty to support their team by making noise when the opponent's offense is on the field and staying quiet (i.e. not booing) when our offense is on the field. Fans DO affect the game and if they do not do their part to create a home-field advantage, they shouldn't complain about players not doing their part. I've never understood the point of booing your team. What does it accomplish? If your team sucks, do you think the players need the fans to inform them of such? When a team is playing poorly they know it and don't need fans to pile on and hit them when they are down. In anticipation of how people might respond to this post: (1) football is not politics, so please do not cite your 1st Amendment rights to boo; and (2) just because you paid for a ticket and have the right to boo doesn't mean that you should boo.

11-02-2006, 01:25 PM	#6
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Brian Mitchell Show when you overpay for so much talent (and ticket prices are raised accordingly) you have a right to expect your team not to suck. I can understand the desire to boo, as fan are simply soooo frustrated that they have no other outlet (ie- 4 3 and outs in a row, and brunell completes a 5 yard pass when we needed 8)...just as the natural reaction to a good play is to cheer. You want a release. Moreover, these guys are not kids, they are professionals. It is reasonable for people to expect them to play and behave accordingly. That said, I agree with you, it is destructive, demeaning and unnecessary. Moreover, i don't buy the booing as a motivational tool, but i can see some benefit in trying to illicit change- ie get brunell out. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-02-2006, 01:33 PM	#9
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Brian Mitchell Show That is another huge beef- the redskins fans seem to sell their tickets to opponents ALL the time! Are they corp seats? i am constantly sickened by the volume of opposing jerseys in the stadium, week in, week out. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-02-2006, 01:39 PM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Brian Mitchell Show maybe if Snyder wouldn't constantly raise the ticket prices you would see more ordinary Joe's at the games. i live about an hour and a half away, and go to one game a year. because thats all i can afford. i would love top see 4-5 games a year but i got mouths to feed __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-02-2006, 02:05 PM	#13
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Brian Mitchell Show all of those issues are snyder's fault. Tickets are too expensive, the stadium is too big, and the location sucks. All of these factors bring up those issues. Too many seats to fill so many tickets get sold to cowgirls fans, bad location so 495 gets backed up....late arrival. Too expensive so it's all corporate people who don't cheer as hard. oh yeah......and the team isnt good haha __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-02-2006, 02:07 PM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,735	Re: Brian Mitchell Show Snyder didn't build the stadium, so we can't blame him for all the problems. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-02-2006, 02:11 PM	#15
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: Brian Mitchell Show He has added like 10,000 seats and charged a rediculous amount for them __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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